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Time for some growing up to be done in your house. Enjoy your new car...seems to me you need some tlc right about now and a new car is a great way to get some. You really got a nice car too!
The Sandman
I had gotten a quote from a North Jersey dealer for a 2008 Hyundai Elantra GLS Automatic with Popular Equipment Package (A/C & Radio) + Carpet Mats & Cargo Net for OTD of $14.7--something. I then wrote email to and spoke with 'N-e' from Hyundai City who spoke with her manager (she said) who said they'd match the price. I'm in South Jersey, so it's a much closer drive and so I went to close the deal. When I got there I never got to speak to 'N-e', but instead another salesperson who tried to give me another price and not the one I was quoted. I promptly showed the breakdown of the quote I had gotten from the other dealer and said that was the price I was quoted by Hyundai City over the phone and that's what I wanted. A manager 'S-e' came and said they had quoted me $14,500 before taxes and fees and that the price I was asking for was too low and they'd lose money. I said that was the price I was quoted and I would like that price. Here's where it gets interesting.
'S-e': Well that place is 2 hours away from you and if you drive that far, you would probably not want to leave without a car.
I said: They don't know where I'm from, I could be from 5 minutes away.
'S-e': H how did you contact them?
I said: By email.
'S-e': They know where you're coming from because they can track your email.
I said: I'm a Network Admin at my company (which I am) and I know it's possible, but I use an online email service and I don't think dealers would go through that trouble.
'S-e': Dealers have the ability and they use it.
I said: Tell you what, I'll call a friend and ask him to email something to you and if you can tell me where he is then I'll have to believe you.
'S-e': Uh, we use a service to do that.
I said: You can call the service and they can tell you.
'S-e': Uh (looks at his watch), our compuer guy left at 5 o'clock.
I said: So, you're telling me if I emailed after 5 o'clock you wouldn't know?
'S-e': (Blustering and getting loud) What are you talking about?!
I said: Are you lying to me? That's all I want to know.
'S-e': (Jumping to his feet and now yelling) GET OUT OF MY DEALERSHIP! (proceeds to rip up some papers).
I got up and left, offended and pissed.
I did pick up a Black/Beige 2008 Hyundai Elantra GLS Auto with Popular Equipment Package and Carpeted Mats, pin striping, mud guards for $14,985.00 OTD ($2,000 rebate + taxes, tags & fees; if I kept my old tags, would have saved me $130 or so) at Flemington Hyundai. I ended up getting the Lo-Jack because the money-math was a no brainer - a 15% to 25% discount on my comprehensive auto insurance for $950 + tax? (Um, let's see - financed for 5 years - insurance about $2,000/year and at worst case 15% discount = $300 savings on insurance per year - so in 3-1/2 years the insurance savings would pay for the Lo-jack; best case 2 years pays off Lo-jack and after the Lo-jack is paid off, everything else is savings!) So the final price was $16,025.67.
What do you guys/gals think?
Mention me at Flemington and I'll get $100 bucks - I'll split it with ya! 8-)
I got the quote $14,800.00 from Flemington Hyundai via phone and email after showing them a breakdown of a quote from another dealer. I got an email with the OTD price of $14,800.00 with no details. I asked for him to email me the specs on the car (2008 Hyundai Elantra GLS Auto with Popular Equipment Package, Carpeted Mats, Cargo Net) along with the quote and he did email it but swapped the cargo net for the mud guard (don't care much either way). This was on Friday and I was going to pick up on Friday, but he said his manager was going to be gone by the time I got there so could I come on Saturday. He said he wouldn't be there, but another salesperson would assist me. I asked for tlephone or email confirmation from the salesperson that would be there to meet me and I received a phone call.
There was an early morning appointment so I said I would be at Flemington by 2pm. My appointment got cancelled so I ended up getting to Flemington a little before 1pm. I saw the car and then went into do the paperwork. He knew that negotiations had been made already and did not try to pull anything. While he was helping us, he also was helping 2 other persons and making and receiving phone calls (the place was busy!). He apologized a few times for the busy-ness, but I didn't mind since he was actually working and not sitting around wasting time.
After a little bit, we went into the finance office to sign papers. The fiance guy asked if we wanted to double the bumper-to-bumper coverage, I said no and he didn't ask again and did not push it. He asked if I wanted Lo-jack and explained that it would take 15% to 25% off the comprehensive auto insurance, cost around $950 + tax. I did the math and decided it made sense to get it not because of the Lo-jack, but because of the insurance savings. The finance guy was friendly and didn't try to push anything after it was asked once.
In about 2-1/2 hours after I got there, even when they were busy, I was ready to go with the keys in my hand.
But when I got to the car, one of the fobs didn't work and the radio didn't work. The salseman 'R-s' said he'll have the shop take a look at it and I could wait just a bit, but I was hungry so I said I'm going to grab lunch and be back. He told me a few places to eat. I ate. I came back. The car was ready to go.
I checked the trunk (turnk light, spare tire), I check all 4 tires to make sure they were inflated properly, check the radio, checked both fobs, checked the lights, power windows, power doors - everything was great. In 3-1/2 hours after I walked in the door, I got my price, check financing options, signed papers, had lunch, double checked the car and took my new car home.
At Flemington, they were curteous, not pushy, seem to have integrity and was overall a good buying experience. But I can't help getting the feeling I could have done better than $16,025.67 for the 2008 Hyundai Elantra GLS Auto with Popular Equipment Package, carpeted mats, pin striping, mud guards and Lo-jack... It seemed too easy? ($17,165 sticker)
Happy Drivin'
--jjf
And just to make sure I called Allstate's 24 hour sale and support line (my insurance company) and they said Lo-jack would save me 20%; immobilizing unit would save me 10%; if I had both it would save me 25%.
For right now I'll keep the 20% discount ($2,000 x 0.2 = $400/year so 2-1/2 years to pay off low jack and $1,000 savings on my auto insurance during the remaining 2-1/2 years of my fianance term - and then just savings accrueing on my insurance) and at the end of my finance term, I may consider an additional immobilizer for the extra 5% depending on what my insurance payments are at the time.
The 24 hour sales and support line said I will have to contact my local insurance agent to activate the 20% discount. I will be calling first thing Monday morning and will keep you all updated.
Depending on your insurance rate; if you're financing; it may be totally worth the inrease in the dealer price for the $1,000 add-on for the savings on the insurance!
Just trying to be helpful!
I am an insurance agent and have never heard of any insurance company discounting the entire car insurance premium because of lo-jack or any other anti-theft device.
The discount only applies to the coverage insuring you against theft. Most companies (at least in CT) have been calling this coverage "damage to your car other than collision" for over a decade. A few may still call it "comprehensive". This coverage applies to fire, theft, vandalism, glass breakage, just about any accidental damage except for collision with another object. See your policy for definitions of collision as colliding with an animal such as a deer is considered "other than collision."
Car dealers or accessory sales people often use the promise of a big discount from one's comprehensive car insurance. Technically, they are correct, but they say it in such a way that the typical new car buyer believes he will save X% on his entire car insurance premium.
Don't ever believe what anyone in automotive/accessories sales tells you a particular item or feature will do to save you insurance premiums.
A good example is window etching. None of the insurance companies we represent offer any discount for window etching. We've had clients call and say "My new car has window etching. How much will that save me?" When we tell them "nothing", they get mad at us rather than the salesman who gave them false information.
Always check with your insurance agent or company before buying anything based upon its claimed insurance savings.
P.S. Lo-jack is a "recovery system", it is not a theft prevention system. And, the finance guys' job is to sell add-ons after the car sales deal has been made. Some previous posts have talked about having to go to the finance guy when they were paying cash for the car. This is only done so the finance guy can try to squeeze a few more bucks out of the buyer.
I've had similar experiences with finance managers. They usually sneak a few things such as lojack, resistall, other hidden addons. Saying no is the only way out. And hopefully it'll be the nice type of person.
Also just a reminder, I'd recommend writing a review of both dealers on edmunds. Hopefully it'll help steer some people.
It may be dad's last new car, but our 18 year old has years of new cars ahead of her. Personally I think you have the right idea.
Good luck
--jjf
Daughter was hoping for a new Honda CRV in two years. Husband is telling her this is the last new car we get. That's why she wanted the 2003 Sentra instead of the new Elantra. To add to that, I will not let her drive the new Elantra until she proves to me that she can use a car without trashing it, so for the summer until she leaves for college, she must drive my husband's 2006 Accord which is a manual. She was tired of driving a manual. Meanwhile, husband is complaining because he wanted another manual, and I insisted on an automatic. At almost 60 years old I'm getting too old to drive a manual in stop and go traffic every day. I told them if they want to sell the new Elantra SE and buy the 2003 Sentra, it's up to them. I researched the Elantra for two weeks to get the best price, and I wipe my hands clean now. I need time to grieve the loss of my brother.
Again, sorry for your loss and enjoy YOUR new car!
The Sandman
I recommend Towne to everyone very strongly!
I ended up going with the Elantra instead of the Civic LX because in my part of the country (Houston) Civics are selling at MSRP. I got an 08 GLS automatic with option package 2, floormats and mudflaps for right at $14400+TTL. That's $15537.50 OTD. Only a $1500 rebate here in Texas, and lots of demand for these cars, so I think I did pretty good. Got my Aircheck rebate for turning in my 93 Dodge Shadow and walked out with a shiny new loan worth $12350.00 of debt.
curious why you think this thread is way off track? because of peoples' buying experiences, or maybe the family discord in a couple posts?
The family discussion is what was off track.
I’m a first time new car buyer. This situation makes me think about lots of things, but I can not figure it out.
Does anybody know when the 09 Elantra will arrive?
Do you guys expect more rebate on 08 Elantra?
But the Touring may come later than the 2009 sedan, from what I've heard. Maybe that is what you meant by "winter"?
looks like you got a good deal!
what color? mine is black with grey interior. it's a nice car. enjoy it. you may want to get some mud guards for it to help keep the paint in good shape around the wheels. in some other threads here, there are some good sites to get authentic hyundai parts.
enjoy!
eric
Our salesman was Jordan Kotero and he was very good.
Another dealer quoted me 18200 out the door, but it comes with a 20 yr 200000 mile warranty for the powertrain. Is this worth the extra money?
The TMV on this car is 19108-1500 rebate = 17608. Invoice is 18425-1500 rebate = 16925. The price quoted on both those cars was below invoice. A good deal or not?
The 20/200000 deal sounds silly. I doubt it would be transferable, and who keeps a car like this more than 10 years ever? Resale value on a 10 yo Hyundai is not really an issue either.
I have no problems waiting, but it would be nice to get a car before winter.
If you don't mind a larger car with a little less fuel economy, you might see what a Sonata GLS costs. They have bigger rebates and more aggressive discounting than Elantras, in general.
Hyundai boosted basic prices for the Elantra by $300 and for the Accent by $200 as of July 1, Hyundai's Seoul-based spokesman Jake Jang said in a phone interview today. The starting retail price for the Accent is $10,775 and $13,625 for the Elantra, according to Hyundai's Web site. Yonhap News agency earlier reported the price increase.
Added to that Elantra sales were up in June, so I dont see the need for a larger
rebate.
FOUNTAIN VALLEY, Calif. - Hyundai Motor America said Tuesday its U.S. sales rose 1.3 percent in June, as it benefited from the growing consumer shift to smaller and more fuel-efficient vehicles.
The automaker sold 50,033 vehicles last month, compared with 49,368 vehicles sold in June 2007.
Adjusted to reflect three additional selling days in the year-ago period, sales jumped 14 percent.
Accent sales soared 70 percent during the month, while Elantra sales surged 50.6 percent and Sonata sales increased 11.9 percent.
PZEV means Partial Zero Emissions Vehicle, i.e. super-low emissions. They are sold in CA and in other states out East that use CA-like emissions regulations. The PZEV Elantra gets slightly lower power (132 vs. 138 hp) than non-PZEV Elantras. I think they are automatic-only.
I cannot belive that I bought a Hyundai b/c I never liked their cars but in the last few years, hyundai's cars have come along way. This car is very classy and feels so expensive, I LOVE THIS CAR!!!!!
All rebates to dealer.