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Absolutely no car is perfect, but I expect a Honda to be. As far as standing behind their product, they aren't as proactive as they could be in my opinion. I just had the transmission replaced on my CRV (and I've read here and in other sites about Honda tranny problems within the last decade) but they refused to guarantee it for longer than the original warranty, so basically, they only guaranteed it for 6 weeks. I'm out of warranty now, just hope they didn't stick one in there that will fail in the next year.
ou were mentioning a tranny failing 3 miles outside of warranty - the dealership that worked on my CRV told me I was lucky, because they had another customer who's Accord tranny went out at 36,000 miles, and they were no longer in warranty. Well, that tranny should have been covered, regardless of the warranty. A tranny going out at 36,000 miles is a major defective part. I've read them going out at 20,000 miles as well. I guess I was lucky mine lasted to 76,000 miles. It has made me rethink what kind of car I will buy next. I used to think of myself as a loyal Honda customer. Not anymore.
When it comes reliability, I realize no car is perfect. It just comes down to personal expectations. However, Honda has a reputation for and touts the reliability of their cars. Therefore, I expected the major A/C components to last more than 46K miles in my CR-V. What is the "normal" expected lifetime for an A/C system? My 86 Accord also required a new compressor, but it had over 100K miles. During the life of that car is also needed two new drive shafts, a new radiator fan motor (stranding me once) and also was recalled for faulty gas filler tube. Thankfully, my 2000 Civic Si has been so far problem free.
Despite all this I've stuck with Honda, but their response on my particular issue and how my CR-V holds out will influence what I shop for next.
otherwise it sounds like the dealer is only going to give me 30 days on the car. i'm concerned about the blown head problem in the 99 CR-Vs and don't want to get stuck with a huge bill if it happens to me.
The dealer should be able to fix this cheaply. Good luck to you.
Hi,
I recently purchased a 2000 Honda CRV. Today was the first day that I took it to a car wash place. Well, as I was in the car wash, large amounts of water (I mean large amounts of water) began pouring onto the passenger side floor. It's hard for me to explain as I am not proficient with auto parts. The water was pouring under the plastic housing (the part that includes the dash board and the glove compartment) so that it was pouring out onto my passengers feet that were, at the time, placed as far toward the front of the car as possible in the passenger space (sorry to be so dumb, I hope you get the idea). Anyway, I remember when it was raining a few days ago, little bits of water were dripping from the same place, I didn't pay it much mind b/c I thought that perhaps the airconditioning vents were getting condensed (it had been very hot). But today, the water was literally pouring onto the floor. Has anyone had this happen? What might it be?
Thank you so much!!!!!
Tammy
Do you recall the year of the Accord? Honda extended the transmission warranty on certain years of the Accord to 7yrs/100K miles due to tranny problems.
I've got the '99 CRV and have 111K miles and no blown head problems. See if you can check the maint. records of the CRV you're looking at to see if they've had the valves adjusted. If not, insist on it when you purchase. It's only about an $85 service item, so it's next to nothing for the dealer to do.
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Buying any 6 yr old vehicle with 73K miles still leaves you open for a big repair bill. Nothing's perfect.
Has anybody noticed on their CRVs' a clunking type noise while turning both left or right--stopped or moving at slow speeds (thus it isn't the CV joints). It feels as if the strut is binding when making these tight turns (parking lot, etc.).
Also, my steering wheel is showing signs of wear--surface coming off at top...and the side air bag indicator light "flickered" while I was driving the other day.
I still have a few concerns--"what next"--shall I expect as this unit is almost out of the warranty period (57,000 km.)
otherwise it sounds like the dealer is only going to give me 30 days on the car. i'm concerned about the blown head problem in the 99 CR-Vs and don't want to get stuck with a huge bill if it happens to me.
This is why it does not cost $18,000. It is USED. Even if original owner had Honda care, it can only be transferred if you bought the car from the original owner. Once it is traded in, the original owner gets a prorated refund.
The problem is not a blown head, but a burnt valve. If the car has service records, you can check if the valves have been adjusted every 30,000 miles or not. If not, you can have the dealer adjust the valves before you buy it.
If you want a car with warranty and less problems, buy NEW. Used cares are someone elses problems that you bring into your home. If you are not willing to deal with those, then buy new. Just like there is no perfect new car, the chances of finding perfect used car are even lower.
after I shut it down and restart I hear it again when driving forward. I will listen at the slow speeds for it. Have you noticed your CR-V pulling to the right when you take your hands off the steering wheel?
My CV-R has the pttr issue. I have been back to the dealer twice. I will next meet with a Honda Rep this week to see if they can resolve the issue. If they can't repair it, what are the steps to be taken for a roll back on my vehicle?
Terry
It's the shift lock solenoid. All CR-Vs with automatic transmissions have it. All click when it engages (increasing speed) and disengages (decreasing speed). It prevents you from shifting in to reverse when the vehicle is moving forward. Some people don't notice it.
"Lemon" laws vary by state. The following link might help you:
State by State Lemon Law Summaries
Is it just bad luck or is it that I'm looking at the picked over end of the model year inventory?
Sorry to hear about your PTTR. I am happy to hear that they may have figured out a cure. With mine, they never did but eventually bought the vehicle back days before Lemon Law arbitration. As mentioned above by another poster, if you end up having to utilize the Lemon Law, every state has a different approach. If you think you may have to use this venue, start researching it now. The fastest and easiest (and cheapest) way is to Google your state name and "Lemon Law." Make sure you read the law very carefully because I can assure you that the Honda reps have and are very familiar with it. Go figure. At any rate, if I can be of help, keep posting and I'll answer the best I can. Like I said, I hope you don't need to deal with it. On another note, I have read of CRV owners that ended up with other problems after the PTTR was "fixed" due to the tweaking which caused other problems with the CRV i.e. uneven tire wear. Steve
I'll ignore your response, Steve but this is the truth.
Any car will drift to the right if a person takes their hands off the wheel. This is normal. If it "veers" into the next lane, something is definatly wrong.
I've read these PTTR stories with interest and I came to the conclusion this was pretty much limited to 2WD drive CRV's. We sell hardly any of these so I really don't have much experience with them.
Since SE Crv's are all 4WD, I don't understand how three out of three could have had this problem?
Some roads are crowned and will cause drift to the left or right, depending on the crowning. But not all roads are crowned, so saying that all vehicles should drift to the right is just silly.
Either that, or my 1999 CR-V and all previous vehicles I've driven have or had a problem because they didn't drift to the right. I'm a consultant and travel frequently. I drive a lot of different rental cars, from many different manufacturers. None of them have drifted to the right consistently in all road conditions. And none have done anything close to what is being reported as PTTR by CR-V owners. If I found a rental that did I'd immediately return it for one that didn't have what is obviously a serious problem with the steering or suspension.
Since SE Crv's are all 4WD, I don't understand how three out of three could have had this problem?
Because your assumption that it was limited to FWD CR-Vs is incorrect. The PTTR problem has been reported by owners since the 1st Gen CR-Vs. While not wide spread, it is real, it does occur, and it's a PITA to resolve. Despite your claims to have never experienced it in any CR-V you've driven.
JM2C
I have to disagree with you. If you take your hands off the wheel, any car will slowly drift to the right, even on a straight road.
Doesn't is seem odd to you that three out of three would do this?
Best thing to do (if I were in your shoes) is take the vehicle to a VERY experienced, independent front end alignment shop that works on a wide variety of cars and have them drive it and give you their opinion.
That the problem does exist is not in dispute, since Honda has acknowledged the problem by issuing a TSB.
JM2C
My car had a premature alternator failure at the 5k miles. It took the dealership over three weeks to get the part in due to back orders for this particular part. I assume that other must be experiencing similar problems. I have read of other issues in regard to engine fires caused by oil changes and was wondering what else I am missing. The car is less than one year old and I am ready to trade it in for another vehicle other than Honda.
Does anyone have any other information to provide?
1) Both driver and passenger window regulartors and run channels were replaced
2) The clear coat peeled and had to be repainted
3) The spare tire tub was leaking from underneath, and had to be resealed.
4) Both front rotors warped and were cut under warranty, then warped again and I replaced them with Brembos.
5) The Center A/c vent broke apart
6) The front seats rocked excessivley
7) One interior panel was gouged pretty bad
8) Engine initially burnt about 1.5 quarts of oil per 1000 miles, and then about 1 quart per 3000 miles.
All defects, but the oil consumption were fixed under warranty. I drove the car happily for the next 2.5 years. The oil consumption was still evident and I had to add a quart at 3000 miles, before the 5000 mile oil change intervals. But that is the price you have to pay for having a high revving high horsepower engine in a Civic. This is the same engine that Honda puts in CR-V's overseas.
I came back to Honda and made sure I got a Japan made CR-V. There are no manufacturer that has no defects, at least Honda stands behind their product when something goes wrong. Your only other choice is Toyota, but they are rather boring vehicles. I don't mean looks, I mean driving dynamics.
The fires were caused by people not paying attention while changing oil. If the old gasket gets removed there won't be a fire.
I wouldn't lose confidence in a great product because of isolated things you may hear and read about.
And, I would be saying the same thing if this were a different make.
allignment, tires). The real problem there is that there is NO fix for this, it's not
like an exhaust or tranny where you can change it.
I was wondering (ask on HondaSUV.com) if anyone of you ever change both front struts ? I'm so tired about this problem that want to try it myself (w/ KYB
struts). I know for shure that one guy tried that by switching both front struts
assembly from a V that do not PTTR to put on his and that solve the problem
but before spending money (stupid, I know...) I would like to have some opinions.
Hope everybody understand my english,
Philippe :lemon:
Not only on the CR-V but also on the Accord and the Mini Cooper and a lot of other cars. It's not normal. If you can live w/ it i'm truly happy for you but I can't.
The dealer gave you a lame excuse. There is a TSB so the problem is real. They
(the dealers) don't want to talk about that because the is about no fix for this
problem... I just want to let you know that the subframe fix just work for about
1000 KM and now my tires have wear abnormaly... I will see my dealer for the
last time next monday...
Philippe
Just to comment on some of the recent posts. There's a difference between pulling to the right and drifting to the right. Riding in the right lane a vehicle will tend to drift to the right due to road crowning. As such, riding in the left lane and the vehicle should drift to the left due to crowning.
The PTTR disease is a distinct pull or tug of the vehicle to the right that will require some force on the steering wheel to keep from going to the right. Best described by steve_royal and his bionic forearm that he got as a result of his CRV.....
JM2C
The service advisor lied to you. Call Honda directly. The number is in the back of your Owners Manual. Complain to them about both the PTTR problem and what the dealer's service advisor told you. Then contact a different Honda dealer. You do not have to take your CR-V back to the dealer you bought it from.
I also agree with mikefm58 about drift versus PTTR. PTTR requires constant pressure on the steering wheel to keep the CR-V driving straight. If you release the wheel, the CR-V immediately starts moving to the right, not just a gradual drift.
Good luck.
You forgot about the Honda Civic Si. All of Honda Civic hatchbacks are made at Swindon, UK plant, including the hotrod Civic Type R. And you sell Hondas?? lol
I'm still disappointed that the A/C failed to begin with, but I'm satisfied with Honda's response - particularly since I didn't purchase an extended warranty for my car. Thanks to all in this forum for your assistance and information.
Been so long since I sold one I suppose.
I've read the archives on groaning noises coming from the rear of the car. Is it really possible that with only 11,000 miles on my CRV that I need to replace the rear diff. fluid? For the past couple of days I've heard a groaning noise when I parallel park. It seems to be coming from the front but it could be the rear.
Also, does anyone else with an '05 have wind noise issues on the driver's side at speeds above 60 mph?