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I hadn't checked the NHTSA website recently - when I checked a few minutes ago, I found a report of another CR-V engine fire:
Date of Failure: December 28, 2005
Complaint #10146343
Summary: Driving down the on ramp onto I-95 my 2005 CRV SE engine caught on fire. The last time I serviced the car was last week for an oil change. Since then I have driven over 300 miles with no problems or warning signs. The car is not totaled and I am dealing with the insurance.
Didn't see any new reports for '04 CRVs, and there have been no complaints filed for '06 CRVs.
the dealer told me that did not find anything wrong at the present time, but did not tell me about the road salt issue. we have not had any snow the past two weeks in madison (wi) so it is hard to determnine the road salt issue.
If you're talking about serious offroading, driving through deep mud or rock hopping over boulders, buy a Jeep. For rough roads, dirt roads, and gravel roads the CR-V is great.
If you're worried about power, or are considering towing a large or heavy trailer, you should be looking at the Pilot, Ridgeline, or Acura MDX.
JM2C
Like Racoon, said, If you are going to be rock climbing and participating in Paris-Dakkar rally, then CR-V is not for you. It is quite capable for mild to moderate off roading, and has enough power to climb almost any hill, as long as there is traction.
If you are planning on doing more off-roading than this, then get a JEEP.
I'm at the point where I'm about ready to trade it! I can understand the dealers point since they can't replicate the problem but the way they're dismissing by assuming I don't know what I'm doing is annoying.
Anyone else ever experience this? I'm at the point where I hate the car & it's only 6 wks old! :mad:
Thanks....
I'm assuming that they have checked the man trans fluid level, and even though the car is brand new perhaps a change of fluid would help. If it is really cold where you live it might be that the gearbox and fluid is just too cold to allow the gears to mesh smoothly. Perhaps you should leave it overnight at the dealer and have them try to put it in reverse when it is cold-soaked.
I'm not surprised to hear that your tranny is balkey because mine is too, but not nearly as bad as yours sounds.
Good luck and please let us know how it turns out.
TB
And yes, it's very cold here...currently 10 F.
10F. Ouch.
I've got to believe that the temp has something to do with it, but I'm not a mechanic and I didn't stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night either!
TB
Your dealer is not giving you the level of service to which you're entitled. This talk of "the newer manual trans" is pure nonsense. Sticks have changed very little since synchromesh on 1st gear was introduced more than 50 years ago. You should not have to play with your car's gearbox to coax it into reverse. You should have to do no more than shift into reverse, release the parking break & let out the clutch. The idiotic workarounds that your service department has suggested - shift into 1st, etc. - tells me that these folks will do anything to avoid actually solving your problem.
Politely but firmly tell the service manager that the car's performance is unacceptable. If another stick is available, ask to drive it. (You probably won't be this lucky, though.) If you have to, escalate this matter & get Honda's regional rep involved. Avoid nastiness, but do be persistent. Make it clear that you won't go away until the car performs to your complete satisfaction.
My experience with Honda sticks goes back more than 30 years, & I've never had anything like the problem that you've described. Even my college car - a '68 Rambler American with a non-synchro reverse gear that was probably the worst car ever built outside the Soviet bloc - wasn't as much trouble as your brand new CR-V.
Please don't give up on your CR-V. Make your service department serve you. Keep us posted on what happens.
Any solutions to this prolem?
Thanks
What do you know, the OWNER's MANUAL on page 147 tells you tp put it in one of the forward gears before shifting into reverse.
Maybe someone should read it?
But I've owned a Civic, 2 Accords & now a CR-V, all with sticks, & I've never had anything close to the trouble that beep2 is having. It sounds as if he's following the manual (& his service advisor's instructions), & he's still having a hard time. Unless he's exaggerating or leaving something out, I can't help but believe that his transmission is not performing to spec.
And even if the problem is with his shift technique & not with the transmission itself, couldn't one of the service advisors spend 10 minutes in the car with him to set him straight?
Maybe it's my soft heart, but I just think that the poor guy is suffering needlessly.
Thanks.
Another thought about the manual transmission. I don't know where I picked up the habit but I always park in reverse (the manual says to do this when parked downhill, parking uphill it says to leave in first. I usually park in a level spot.) so that when I get in and start her up I am already in reverse. I also engage the parking brake before I shut down and release the clutch so the car is resting on the brakes and not the gears in the tranny. I wonder if this helps at all.
TB
Just to clarify blueiedgod, I did indeed read the owners manual & saw the instructions you referenced. However, as I indicated in my initial post, sometimes reverse will engage & other times it won't...despite shifting into "one of the forward gears" as the manual indicates.
I've tried parking in 1st, neutral & reverse. I've parked on a flat surface & on an incline. Again, nothing seems to make a difference; there appears to be no "common denominator" when it fails to go into reverse.
I truly feel that the Service Dept. is dismissing the problem because when they checked it out, it was under ideal circumstances i.e. flat surface, warm bay. That & the fact that they've made numerous references to my inability to drive a stick. That in itself is hysterical since 3 of my previous manuals have been Hondas & I've been driving for 30 years with nary a blown clutch. Even my husband who is a tractor trailer driver has had difficulty engaging reverse yet at other times it slides right in.
I called the Service Dept first thing this AM & the manager said they've done everything they could & transferred me to the dealership mgr. Now keep in mind that up until last spring she was a grade school teacher. When her father (who owns an auto mall) bought a Honda dealership, she became mgr. So......she offered to take my CR-V, drive it for a few days in an effort "to diagnose the problem". My first instinct was to decline because she's not a mechanic & I feel it's the SD's responsibility. Said I would get back to her. Thoughts? What about trying a SD from a different dealership?
This is so frustrating as we are a pro-Honda family. My daughter just bought a 2006 Ridgeline & my sister has a Pilot. My CR-V is nice...Silver Moss, roof rack, side steps....just a screwy trans.
Thanks again!
As far as the humility, I posted my own experience with it, and it is more difficult in the CR-V than any other Honda to engage reverse properly. I just chucked it to the fact that Honda probably beefed up the gears for the CR-V and thus the difficulty. Some days it does take me a few tries to to get it into reverse or even just rolling forward a bit to get the reverse engaged. I still don't think there is anything wrogn with it. If anything it is performing like any GM tranny would in all the forward gears :-)
My experience with my '06 CR-V has been entirely different. When I want to back up, I shift into reverse. No fuss, no drama, no rolling forward or trying several times. I always get reverse on the 1st shot.
FWIW, I always leave my CR-V in 1st or 2nd gear when I shut it down - never in neutral. Could this have anything to do with my not having any trouble engaging reverse when I start it up again?
Otherwise, I have to suspect that both your & beep2's trannies are out of whack.
Does anyone else who owns a late-model stick-shift CR-V want to chime in?
Honda has written tech bulletins on PTTR, and the problem is relatively simple to correct, in most instances.
FWIW, I always leave my CR-V in 1st or 2nd gear when I shut it down - never in neutral. Could this have anything to do with my not having any trouble engaging reverse when I start it up again?
Otherwise, I have to suspect that both your & beep2's trannies are out of whack.
Does anyone else who owns a late-model stick-shift CR-V want to chime in?
I don't have a problem putting in reverse when pulling out of spots. The problem persist when I have to put it in reverse after driving forward. I just assumed the gears were still spinning and that is why I could not engage. By putting it in 1st at stand still, I allign the gears, or at least stop them from spinning. At least this is my theory. I highly doubt that this is a problem. At leats it not for me. I am used to putting honda manuals in 1st before reverse. The problem only exists when I don't put it in first. And sometimes, after I put it in first and can't engage the Reverse, I move up a bit and then it engages no problem.
I never leave it in gear when parked, unless I parked on a really steep incline. Even then, I try to use the curb as choks to take the stress off the tranny. If I park for more than a week. Then I don't engage the parking brake and leave it in 1st.
It is a problem associated with the correct positioning of the right front strut (or something like that).
Honda has recognized the problem, and has adressed it in technical memos to their service centers.
Any honest, competent service manager should imediately know what you're talking about when you say 'PTTR', and should be able to fix the problem in short order, by rotating the spring, or strut, or whatever.
If your dealer is saying its 'normal', and tries to fix it with an standard alignment, your are at the wrong shop..
Interesting. I'll have to pay more attention to how my CR-V behaves under these conditions. IIRC, when shifting from 1st to reverse in my earlier Hondas in the scenario that you described, I had to briefly pause in neutral.
First, call Honda. They will contact a dealership of your choice. Then you go to that dealership. They should perform the PTTR-related service bulletin (sorry, don't remember the number). At the end, they should do the 4-wheel alignment. If you are lucky, your problem will be 95-97% fixed. If you still unhappy with that, you can try one more alignment, maybe at a different dealership (I have found that alignment machines are not all the same).
The bad news is, your CR-V may never go 100% straight. Yes, it will pull to the right every time you accelerate, and yes, it will drift to the right after several seconds at a highway speed on a flat road. The good news is, after a year of driving the CR-V, you may get used to this.
If the CR-V still pulls severely to the right after the service bulletin is performed -- well, the dealership should try some other fixes. This forum has many posts on the PTTR issue and the possible fixes -- you can do the search.
And of course, you can try the BBB and the Lemon Law, if nothing else works. Though, based on the posts in this and other forums, it seems not many people were successful.
Hope this helps. Let us know how it works out.
RM
RM
I also here a click/clunk coming from the rear end once I start moving (it happens when I hit about 10 MPH). This only happens once after I start the engine, then it never happens again until I restart the car. I think this is the ABS doing a self-check...is that right?
terrypcarter-at-hotmail.com
I would consider PTTR a significant safety issue which would certainly warrant an arbitration hearing. I have little doubt that a fair hearing officer would not grant you a new vehicle, after 3 attempts had been made to solve the problem.
The key words you must use are 'unsafe', 'safety', and 'dangerous'....
It's the reverse lockout solenoid. It protects you from shifting your automatic transmission into Reverse when the vehicle is moving forward. When your CR-V is nearly at a stop it disengages, which is the click you're hearing.
In other words, it's normal.
That's correct.
That is the truth.
I think some people may be thinking that a gradual drift to the right when their hands are taken off the wheel is a "pull" when in fact, it is a normal "drift".