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and replaced them with Michelin Hydro-Edges.
Still PTTR. and its a MAJOR PITA.... :P
Now with the bad weather, I need to drive it more cause I work nights now and they dont do much plowing at night.
Thing has 46K on it and still reliable but the PTTR is soooo annoying.
Anyone have issues with teh STEERING?
Being floaty or seems to miss a little in a turn?
You can not make a diagnosis just from your description it has to be taken to a repair shop and looked at.
Good luck let me know what the problem was.
It was a MAJOR PITA for me too, but now it's driving straight as an arrow.
Mine seems a bit floaty but I think that's because of the new rubber.
Yes. That is an issue with the gen 1 CRV. You're not the first one to get hit with this. I got lucky in that with my 99 CRV I had that done when I had the timing belt changed and have never had an issue with the valves.
Thanks,
JohnSac
I emphasize, though, this report was written when 10w30 and 10w40 oils were standard in most cars. Others on these forums have written that Honda's newer engines are designed for 20w oil. They thought that heavier weight oil might not protect under certain conditions.
How much would it cost to send 4-5 qts of oil across the pond twice a year?
I asked some friends at a local repair shop that is elite tier, thus of course non-dealership. They had looked into this matter by speaking with Honda technicians above the level of someone answering the phone at the dealership's service department. (That's where I'd been told by a very pleasant young woman that it was OK to go with 5w-30.)
The answer my friends got from those more likely to know is that the very sophisticated self-adjusting valves require the 5w-20. Other weights/viscosity will throw off that constantly changing adjustment just a bit. And that makes sense.
This is particularly interesting b/c I had to have the differential fluid changed at around 12000 miles (currently at 16000) b/c of the grinding noise issue. The dealer did this free of charge.
What did you have done on your second service?
No trouble starting the car.
Could this be related to the antitheft feature or just a defective lock?
Dennis
:confuse:
anyway the poster that I had replied to said a locksmith he consulted indicated he'd seen this before on the honda odyssey.
so i imagine they aren't putting very durable cylinders in (or the keys are too soft) and the people like me and you and the other poster that have the low-end trim are having problems from use.
rubbing the key on your pants? ahem, no, that's not likely to do anything but cause you to use the other side of the key. :shades: it works for us sometimes too (the other side of the key, not the pants trick.
Mark
Thank you for your very detailed and helpful explanation of why my recently purchased 2008 CR-V insisted on driving itself off the road if I didn't firmly clutch the wheel to prevent it. At 60 mph, it crossed over 2 highway lanes within 5 seconds, just hours after I drove it out of the dealer's showroom. I took it back to the dealer who feigned ignorance of the problem, saying it was "normal drift". Over the next 2 days the dealership worked on the car, trying to adjust the problem away, but to no avail. There was no fix for the problem and now I understand why. Once I began to make noises to them about class action lawsuits and punitive damages, they took the car back and gave me a full refund after 2 days of cooling my heels in the dealer's showroom. I was not about to let Honda off the hook and go away quietly, forced to drive a vehicle that posed a danger to my safety!
http://www.crvownersclub.com/TSBs/2005/03-004.pdf
for the '07 or '08, i have no idea if you are facing a similar issue or something completely different.
i provided the information so you could print it and have a dialog with the dealership about what they are actually trying to do to correct your issue.
now, does the vehicle demonstrate dramatic PTTR without you changing the speed of the vehicle?
coasting or/or maintaining speed vs. accelerating would be viewed differently, the latter i think is torque-steer and a function of the engine/transmission and shaft configuration to the drive wheels.
w.r.t. the former, if my understanding is correct, if there is a slow 5-6 sec drift to the side of the highway, that could be considered fairly normal and the effect of "road crown" - a gentile sloping of the road surface being highest in the middle of the highway, to help promote the removal of melting snow and standing water during rains to the side of the highwa. i believe most if not all vehicles will drift over some period of time with a highway that has some crown.
but if your vehicle is very rapidly changing lanes, you have a completely different situation on your hands. good luck.
You have a really good case for Honda to pay for the head replacement. They put in the manual 105,000 mile interva for valve adjustments on the CR-V, but the same engine in the Integra gets 30,000 mile adjustments, and the same engine in Europe, I believe, requires 15,000 mile adjustment.
This is what happens when Marketing People, with out any engineering background, are allowed to work for a technology company.
Call Honda Corporate and open a case, stating exactly what happened, and how the manual is misleading.
11,200 mi-Jan 05-Rear pads replaced (I attributed this to 2 upstate NY winters and not much driving while she was at college). Noticed lots of rust on rotors, even had them ground clean once by dealer no charge.
30,000 mi-Dec 06-Front rotors and pads replaced
35,000 mi-Dec 07-Rear rotors and pads replaced
I acknowledge my daughter doesn't drive the car much, but she's been in NJ & SE PA since June 06, not snow belt areas.
This doesn't sound like a brake part lubrication issue. It sounds like a manufacturing defect to me:
1. I read a couple of other messages on this board mentioning rotor rust "that accumulates when the car sits" and "makes a weird sliding/scraping noise, until the pads clear off the rust". I'm 56 and never heard of this with other cars.
2. Clearing off the rust seems to accelerate pad wear and leads to rotor replacement.
3. I have a 2001 Nissan Altima sitting in front of my house most of the time (my son's car), 36,000 mi on it but no rusty rotors, no rotor/pad replacements.
4. My wife has a 2004 CRV, 38,000 mi on it, but it's been garaged the whole 4 years--no brake work needed yet!
Sounds like routine outside weather rusts the rotors and wears out the brakes. Sounds like my daughter's in for rotor/pad replacements every 3 years or so even with her low mileage--ridiculous! It's going to be enough to buy a different car next time even though we like almost everything else about the CRV.
Any other suggestions/helpful comments for my daughter and other brake-suffering CRV owners are welcome!
I'm 60 years old - have probably had 30 cars and never had anything like this. If you know a class action lawyer you can probably make money on this.
SEF
They said they reproduced the noise in new vehicles. I have never heard of a motor mount like this before! Can anyone verify that this exists?
Corvo3 (Ken, Arlington, MA)
Went to dealership and they concluded that it is normal and, they claim, is a sound from the pneumatic motor/transmission mount.
They said they reproduced the noise in new vehicles. I have never heard of a motor mount like this before! Can anyone verify this?
Corvo3 (Ken, Arlington, MA)
I'm really not sure about the rust causing abnormal wear though. My Accord has 150,000 miles and is currently on its second set of brakes. I drive about 50 miles daily on the highway and by anticipating my stops, I get a lot of life out of a set of pads.
My CRV was bought used with 68,000 miles on it and it is now hitting 93,000 miles. We still are on the same brakes at this point. That car is used for mixed highway and city driving.
So quick answer is yes I get the noise also but I'm not seeing any abnormal wear. The most either car sits though is about 1 week max. Both are kept outside.
I'm also assuming that you are using brake pads installed by a Honda dealer.
Jack
dcosley
I'm 60 years old - have probably had 30 cars and never had anything like this. If you know a class action lawyer you can probably make money on this.
SEF
I know that AutoZone pads are designed to last only 10,000 miles. Most people get at least 30,000 miles out of OEM pads, with majority getting over 60,000 miles out of the original pads on the vehicle.
Are you sure the mechanic is really honest? Or is he just telling you that you need pads everytime you go in for an oil change?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6kbS5mo4mc
Good Luck!
5th Honda and counting
Thank you for that information and the link to the video. I'm surprised and pleased that the transmission fluid change is so simple. Are you sure there is no filter or screen to clean/replace on the Honda CR-V vehicles, like there was on older vehicles? Based on your experience, I'll certainly plan a DIY for this job.
Regards,
Jack
Clive
My wife had complained of an order coming from the passanger side rear.
What I think it may have been was the differentiial fluid which will become contaminated with metal shavings, they have to flush the old fluid out. Just draining and refilling won't work. It is about a three hour process.
I just asked my wife and she has not noticed the smell since the service on diffwerential, which by the way is a long time problem on Honda all wheel drives.
I'm hoping someone will start a class action suit because tis can cause serious problems later on that Honda knows about.