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  • hdsithdsit Member Posts: 58
    Had the car to the A/T specialist today.
    He unwired the brake-switch (as far as i understood - the brake light was on while testdriving and also the ESP-light in the console).
    This caused that the lockup did not engage. Well - it didnt help - still shimmy in the problem-range. I took the same road afterwards to check up for differences - but it was the same. Apparently the lockup converter is not causing the problem. **** - i was really hoping that i would came a little bit closer to a solution - but it seems that it's neccesary to look at other areas.

    Right after i took to a tyre specialist (at my last visit there i get front/back tyres switched (first dynamically balanced), and afterwards i got shaking i the steering wheel at 110/120 km/h).

    This time i get the wheels balanced mounted at the car (statical balanced where driveshaft, rotor etc. wheel/tyre is balanced all together):
    front + 20 and +25 grams, back 0 and +15 grams - Well i took the shaking in the steeringwheel - but the shimmy get even more distinct and noticeable in the 65-75 km/h area. -
    So now i really dont know - It seems that changing the balancing makes a difference in intensity (but not in the speedinterval it appears).
    (- But that is also what i was experienced with the other 4 sets og tyres i have tried in the past. - they can be balanced/optimized as good as the Hunter 9700, and the man who is operating it - but it can't remove the last shimmy)

    There is in other word a connexion between the wheel/tyre's balancing and the intensity of the shimmy.
    Also the shimmy is in same frequencies as the tyre RPM - but independent of engine RPM - 2,3,4,5 or neutral gear
    (the tyreman said that the tyres had a little "side throw")
    Obviously i'm almost back to 0...
    - And another 80$ out of my pocket...
  • drdonrsdrdonrs Member Posts: 164
    I too have an 06 Sonata LX6 with 3400 miles and absolutely no problems, other than my wife cannot sit in the front passenger seat for any length of time without incurring a backache. Since we are a 2 car family we solved the problem, and when my 2nd Acura TL came off lease we bought a 2006 Azera Limited and it is awesome. My only "complaint" with the Sonata is indeed the rear suspension is somewhat noisy over washboard type roadways. I really can live with it because overall the car is an amazing product, quality-wise, performance-wise and certainly, but not least, price-wise. I am fortunate, I have an excellent dealer, have established a good relationship with the service dept. and think my 2 cars are as good as any that I have owned Acura TL's, Legend, Maxima, Diamante and Sterling to name a few, over the years. Hyundai is moving to the top!
  • eagle2aeagle2a Member Posts: 97
    hdsit: Given all that you have tried to do with your Sonata, and given all that your dealer has done for you, I would think that a trade is in order. I would also think Hyundai would want to get rid of this head ache. At least that way the problem would be gone and they could take the car apart and find out what is really wrong.

    If I was the plant manager in Alabama I would want this auto to see just what really happened.
  • bobadbobad Member Posts: 1,587
    If I was the plant manager in Alabama I would want this auto to see just what really happened.

    Agreed. I would like to have a listen myself. :)

    FYI, his car was manufactured in Korea.
  • eagle2aeagle2a Member Posts: 97
    bobad said: "FYI, his car was manufactured in Korea."

    Bob: I am glad mine was manufactured in Alabama if this is the type of thing that Korea puts out.

    My guess is that this auto is just one of those lemons that get built now and again. A real shame!!

    So far, so good. My 3/06 Alabama built GLS is doing great. I love it, at this point in time. :)
  • padraikpadraik Member Posts: 8
    We're buying a car by the end of the month and I've had decent numbers quoted on an '06 Nissan ALtima 2.5S; however I started getting spooked by the oil consumption/engine fire issues. Further research led me to the '07 Sonata (or possibly an Impala). Now I'm seeing shimmy issues here that have me scratching my head. Out of curiosity, anyone have shimmy problems w/ the 4-banger? And locally, any dealerships to avoid or make a point of visiting here in the central valley (CA)?
    Thanks for any info!
  • bobadbobad Member Posts: 1,587
    There is no shimmy problem per se. That's simple tire imbalance, and it's not that common.

    If you read carefully, you will notice the same complaints are being voiced over and over again, so the problem sounds way more common than it really is.

    Drive a Sonata and carefully notice for tire vibration and noise at all speeds. I think you will dismiss it out of hand.
  • eagle2aeagle2a Member Posts: 97
    padraik: I agree with bobad. I feel this shaking problem is getting way too much board time.

    I drive a 2006 GLS auto and it is smooth as silk.

    In fact, I have never driven a car as quiet and smooth as my Sonata, and I have been driving cars since 1954. I have owned all kinds of autos.

    I drove for a company as a traveling factory rep. for 15 years covering over 500,000 miles and I got a new car every two years. Bobad is right! Tires can cause all kinds of differing types of shaking motions.

    This one individual has a shaking problem. But he just keeps posting the same problem over and over again. You need to look up the history of a problem and see how many folks are reporting this type of a problem rather than how many posts there on the subject. Some folks post a lot on the same subject when they have a problem. The question is "How many different individuals are having this type of problem?"
  • hdsithdsit Member Posts: 58
    I havent seen any complaints about shimmy on the 4-banger. Have tried several for test/compare-purpose, and they runs totally smooth. No problems with this at all.

    I suggest that you try and test very carefully, before making any conclusion.

    I will, not at all, claim that it is a common problem/design flaw. All i know is that all 3.3 models i have tried (5-6) had this "feature". The techician at Hyundai here in Denmark claimed that it is a common problem, and that the cars he had tested had this problem. If you make a search on "shimmy" you will find a thread among others:
    adtchris, "Hyundai Sonata: Problems & Solutions" #1470, 27 Aug 2006 5:20 am
    - Just another 5 cars with the same problem.
    If you make a count of how many persons, me included, who had noticed/complained about this problem - then i guess we are still a small amount, considering how many Sonatas driving on the streets today.

    Many would surely not even notice this problem even if their car had this problem - driving-pattern etc.
    A lot of people have stated that their cars just run smooth as silk - and lucky for them - I certainly wish i was one of them...
    Besides i have no idea at all how many Sonata owners is participationg in this forum, but i know that the mainparts doesnt.
    I mean - you dont get a realistic and true picture of the eventually extent of this problem just by following this and other forums.

    When i first started to write about my experience with my car here, i was obviously the only one who had noticed this problem, and i was feeling very alone with the problem.
    Now it seems that more and more notice it.
    And also it seems that Hyundai get some reporting back from their dealer about it. I that case i think there maybe a better chance that they take action on it, and make a solution/fix for it. Especially when you and other now really are unsure about to buy it or not because of this problem. The best way to get some action/respond is as known, when it begins to hit somebody's pocket.

    Finally if you are considering a Sonata, i will suggest that you take one or more thorough testdrives. If you dont find any shimmy-problems, then i can absolute recommend the car. I all other areas i still think it is a marvellous car, that i enjoy every day except when i'm driving between 65-75 km/h...
  • pekelopdpekelopd Member Posts: 139
    I have a '06 GLS 4 banger since April and have put about 1800 miles on it. I have ZERO problems with the car, no shimmy, or thumping noises from the rear etc... Car runs as smooth as silk. Only drawback is the soft ride/suspension. Car is more of a cruiser than a preformance handler, so expect a softer/luxury type ride rather that a performance car ride. Also, although a 4 banger, I'm only getting about 17 mpg city, but then again, this is 'stop N go' NYC traffic with lights & stop signs. On the HWY, I've gotten the 33 mpg. Maybe after 5000 or 10000 miles on the car, my mpg will improve.
  • bhmr59bhmr59 Member Posts: 1,601
    I don't think the EPA city rating is based upon anything resembling NYC stop & go traffic. In fact, that 17 mpg is good IMO.
  • padraikpadraik Member Posts: 8
    Great board folks, this info is much appreciated. I'll be testing a few trims over the weekend, and will purchase next week. I'll let y'all know how it goes...hdsit and others with the problem, best of luck with your car(s), I hope it works out for you.

    Cheers!
  • w9cww9cw Member Posts: 888
    For reference purposes, do a wheel shimmy search on Honda Accord, Toyota Camry, etc. on Google, and you will see it's a common problem all on makes of cars.
  • cholliechollie Member Posts: 17
    My 2006 Sonata V-6 runs fine except I find that the tranny upshifts to 5th gear real fast compared to my 2002 Sonata V-6 (4speed auto). While driving in town below 30 mph it's already in 5th and I can't say the engine is labouring but I do notice that the car seems to be 'chugging' along; kind of as if you were driving on slightly oval shaped tires. If I slapstick the tranny down into 4th gear, it's fine with no more sensation of 'ovaling'. Above 30 mph the revs go up accordingly and everything smooths out and the car runs fine all the way up to speeds I don't wish to say. I briefly mentioned this situation to the service manager and it's a new one to him. Has anybody else felt this sensation at low speeds?
  • miamixtmiamixt Member Posts: 600
    The REprogramming of the 5 Speed A/T was disappointing, and they have yet to work out some of these Transmission issues. In fact, they might not be working on this issue at all? :mad: :cry: :confuse: :(
  • timmythebonetimmythebone Member Posts: 18
    Have a 4 cyl AT 1999 with 80,000 miles and the air bag sensor icon on the dash came on yesterday and has stayed on. Anyone know what might be the cause. Is it something that needs immediate attention. Under 100,000 warranty? Possible repair costs ? Any info would be greatly appreciated. :confuse:
  • bhmr59bhmr59 Member Posts: 1,601
    Did a 1999 have the 100,000 mile warranty? If so, that warranty is for the drive train, not the whole car. The present whole car warranty is 5 yr/60,000 miles, don't know what it was for 1999's.

    I suggest getting it checked at a dealer. It could be minor or major. The dealer should be able to give you an estimated cost to repair. You could always then check with local mechanics, depending on the problem, to see if it'll save you money by them fixing it rather than the dealer.
  • sonataloversonatalover Member Posts: 10
    This was a common problem on my 1999 4 cyl with the auto transmission. I believe there was a recall for this issue some time between 2000 and 2003. If my memory is correct it was tied to a wiring harness issue. It happened so many times on my '99 that it almost became funny.
  • tle2tle2 Member Posts: 4
    Proud owner of 4 Elantras '4, '(2)05's, '06, and
    recently purchased a '07 Sonata LX 3.3L and have noticed at 1500 miles Upper Valve train engine noise at cold start-up for apx 2-3 seconds. Once the oil light goes off (2-3 sec) the engine is smooth and quite. I have concerns about the long term effects of what seems to be an oiling issue.
    Has anyone else experienced this.
  • tle2tle2 Member Posts: 4
    I just purchased an '07 Limited and notice the same noise, it is defenitely gas tank related. With a full tank until apx 3/4 tank the noise is noticable when slowing and stopping. I have found that the noise is not noticable if I fill the tank to 3/4 full. I will be checking to see what luck you have with a resolution.
  • miamixtmiamixt Member Posts: 600
    This seems like an isolated incident that should just be posted with other Sonata problems?. My proven 06 LX, also with 1500 miles makes no noise whatsoever?. Oh except that Engine growl when you punch it! :)
  • jprybajpryba Member Posts: 201
    I noticed shortly after leasing my 06 Sonata last fall that the airbag warning stickers were kind of peeled at the edges. I didn't think much about it, but then in the past month they looked really bubbled up. Go figure that after getting the dealer to order new stickers, in the mail was a letter from Hyundai about a recall. Included were new stickers, which I promptly replaced the peeling ones in my car with. There were also pics of what the affected stickers look like. For all I know, they took pics of the ones in my car! ;)

    Speaking of issues that could lead up to recalls, has anyone else had the latch on the center console of their 06 (and up) Sonata break off? Mine just suddenly felt loose one day, and then before I knew it, it broke free in my hands as I tried to push it back into place. The dealer could just replace the latch, but right now Hyundai is requiring them to replace the whole center console. Seems kind of silly to me, but I guess that's just their policy. Anyway, considering that the center console can fling open at just about any time (either surprising the driver and/or flinging contents all over the place), I wonder if this will become the next (minor) recall for the new Sonata. Hopefully mine is just an isolated case.
  • ray_h1ray_h1 Member Posts: 1,134
    )) "The dealer could just replace the latch, but right now Hyundai is requiring them to replace the whole center console. Seems kind of silly to me..." ((

    Maybe the company became aware of a latch alignment issue that necessitates replacement of the entire center console. It's unusual for any automaker to go to extra expense unless it's necessary.
  • ray_h1ray_h1 Member Posts: 1,134
    Very curious. That type of noise isn't unusual with hydraulic lifters until they "pump up" with oil pressure after sitting through the night, but Hyundai went to non-adjustable, solid lifters in the company's new lambda series V6 engines used in the Azera and Sonata lines. Check your engine oil level in the morning before you start it just to be certain it's not low. Anywhere on the dipstick between the low and high marks when cold is OK. (Park on a level surface the night before so you get a true reading.) If everything's OK, take it in to the dealer for them to evaluate - no sense risking damage and having them alleging that you materially contributed to it - and make sure they start an invoice so you have a paper trail in case something develops later.
  • timmythebonetimmythebone Member Posts: 18
    Problem was caused by a disconnected harnass under the driver's seat. Probable cause was sliding the seat forward and back depending on driver. Hope this info helps others to save a trip to service. ;)
  • de1029de1029 Member Posts: 52
    I need to replace the rear brake light. When I open the trunk I can see what appears to be a shied that covser or houses the rear light assembly. There is an identation at the top that looks like all you have to do is flip it open or pull it down and you would have access to the light housing assembly. Am I correct? Is this how one opens the light house to replace the rear brake light? Or the replacement something the mechanic has to do.
  • ray_h1ray_h1 Member Posts: 1,134
    Have you checked your owner's manual? ;) The one for my '03 Sonata goes into various bulb replacements in quite a bit of detail in the "Do-It-Yourself Maintenance" section toward the back, complete with nice illustrations. I'd be surprised if Hyundai omitted that consideration with the new models.
  • de1029de1029 Member Posts: 52
    Stupid me! First, I forgot to include the year in my post: 2000. Then, I didn't even think about the manual. I will check my manual and see if that solves my problem. Big Thanks. But, I would appreciate any other 2000 sonata owners responding with their experiences.
  • godorigodori Member Posts: 3
    I have same problem with my 06 Sonata LX. I just bought it last week as used car with 11K miles on it. I could not notice the problem during the test drive because engine was running right before.
    I found out it is making a loud clicking noise for couple second after start up next morning.
    I am 100% sure it is oil related issue. (oil not covering upper valve train fast enough) It does not happen again if I start the car again right away. But if I wait 15 to 30 minutes, enough time for engine oil on upper valve train to go down to pan, it happens again. I changed the engine oil to Mobil 1 (5W-20) and change the canister style oil filter to improve oil flow but it did not help a bit.
    I just took the car to dealership and I hope they can fix this problem. The service guy didn't think it was a serious problem. I do worry about long term damage like tle2 mentioned and it is also very embarrassing for me to drive less than a year old car making this kind of noise.
    I will post what happen at the dealer later.
  • ray_h1ray_h1 Member Posts: 1,134
    I went snooping around the HMAService website and found the following TSB:

    Issue Date: 10/09/06; #06-20-002
    DESCRIPTION:
    An updated timing chain tensioner* is now available. This part may help reduce timing chain noise that may affect some vehicles during the inital 10 seconds of operation after prolonged storage.
    VEHICLES AFFECTED:
    • Model:
    • 2006-07 Azera 3.8L - Produced through July 4, 2006
    • 2007 Entourage 3.8L - Produced through June 26, 2006
    • 2007 Santa Fe 3.3L - Produced through August 4, 2006
    • 2006-07 Sonata 3.3L - Produced through August 4, 2006

    *New Part No.: 24410-3C300
  • mtnman1mtnman1 Member Posts: 431
    I was wondering if anyone has had problems with the Leather seats in the Sonata? I only have 28,000 miles on mine which I bought new in 2003 and the driver's side seat back has a lot of cracking on the lower side near the door. Dealer said it is normal wear and when I call Hyundai's national customer assistance number they said they will not fix it. I put leather conditioner on the seats twice a year and I don't feel this should be happening on a car with 28,000 miles. I could see if the car had 70,000 miles on it. I am so disgusted with this situation that I don't believe that I will ever consider another Hyundai vehicle. Does anyone have any advice? Hyundai won't let me talk to anyone except a customer service representative and all they will give me is a P.O. box to send a letter if I want. What bothers me most of all is that I have been one of Hyundai's biggest cheerleaders and I love the newest vehicles they have come out with and yet they treat their customers like this. Just when they want to build sales. I definitely will tell everyone that will listen, not to buy this garbage. I guess a car manufacterer has to be desperate for customers like Lincoln Mercury. They never give me any problem when I have an issue with my Mountaineer. Ford Fusion and Mercury Milan will probably be my replacement choices when I get rid of this Sonata.
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  • mamamia2mamamia2 Member Posts: 707
    There is no sense of having a general "Hyundai Sonata: Problems & Solutions" board. We need to go by GENERATIONS, just as was done with the ACCORD. An owner of a 2006 Sonata would be totally uninterested in the problems of a 1997 Sonata, since those are 2 TOTALLY different cars.

    The owners of the newer generation, 2006+ of the Sonata deserve their own board.

    Just as the owners of any older generation of this car deserve to have their own.
  • backybacky Member Posts: 18,949
    The way these discussions are going, one could start a discussion for "2003 Hyundai Sonata: Cracks in leather on back of driver's seat near the door".
  • godorigodori Member Posts: 3
    Well, I drop off my car first thing in the morning and call the dealer around 3pm. The service guy acknowledged the problem (nasty noise after start up) but he did not know what is wrong with the car. I went back after work around 5:30pm The service guy led me to the car which was on the lift. He showed me the oil pan. It was dented slightly upward like it went over something on the road. (couple of scratch marks on frame too)
    I notice the shape of oil pan was little different when I did oil change two days ago but I thought it was support to be like that to help drain the oil.
    Mechanic told me that intake tube for oil was right above the bottom of oil pan with a very little clearance. He suspects that dented bottom of oil pan is partially blocking the oil flow to the engine.
    They have to order the new oil pan and I will go ahead and let them change for little under $200 on Friday. (not cover by warranty and I could not argue about that)
    I think I can change it out but I want them to work on it just incase this is not the cause of problem.
    BTW the mechanic told me that all 2006 V6 sonata has some issue with noise right after ignition. He said he seen many normal cars with some degree of noise (like half second?) right after ignition. Is this ture?
    I will post final result after Friday. I hope my engine did not suffered any long term damage…
  • godorigodori Member Posts: 3
    I am trying to program a new remote for 2006 Sonata LX.
    Can anyone tell me that where is a central locking signal control unit is located and how to get to it?
    I do have instruction to program (seems very easy) but I don't want to take a part every where to find this thing.
    Thanks.
  • backybacky Member Posts: 18,949
    Your auto insurance would probably cover this, if your deductible is low enough and if you want to file a claim.
  • miamixtmiamixt Member Posts: 600
    Who files a claim for $200 now a days?.
  • miamixtmiamixt Member Posts: 600
    Who files a claim for $200 now a days?.
  • backybacky Member Posts: 18,949
    I filed one that was worth about $300 the other day--wife's van was keyed, all but $120 was covered under comprehensive insurance and it didn't affect our premiums. It was fast and easy. Why not?
  • bhmr59bhmr59 Member Posts: 1,601
    "Comprehensive" claims (fire, theft, vandalism, flyig or falling objects, etc) are not classified as "at fault" accidents as striking another object, even a curb or bump in the road would be.

    That being said, many insurance companies are now using rating tiers in addition to accident points and many other things, including discounts for homeownership, good credit scores and on and on to arive at a final rate.

    If you had caused a serious accident a few days ago you would not see any affect on your premium until your next renewal is issued. In some states, a six month policy cannot be up rated until the annual aniversary of the original policy.

    Also be careful about the number of claims you file. Insurance companies would rather pay one $8,000 fluke accident claim than several $200 claims.

    You previously posted that your son had a minor incident backing out of the garage. If that was claimed against your policy and you now filed a claim for the "keying" incident, that would make at least two claims within the last year. Most insurance companies use a 3 year look back. If you have any additional incidents (including traffic tickets) in the next two years or if you had other incidents within the last 3 years, you could be in for an unpleasant surprize 30 to 60 days before your next renewal date. Your policy could significantly increase in cost or your present company may inform you that they are not willing to renew your policy. After being "dropped" by one company, replacement coverage will likely cost much more.

    If I were your agent and you called to tell me about a $300 keying incident, I would advise against filing a claim that would only net you $180 and could cost you hundreds, if not thousands (with a young driver), more per year for a couple of years. As an agent, that $180 wouldn't come out of my pocket but it could come out of your pocket many times over.
  • backybacky Member Posts: 18,949
    First of all, it was only a thought that this kind of accident could be covered under auto insurance. That is a fact. If I knew I'd get blasted by two people for mentioning that fact, I wouldn't have done it.

    Second, I agree it is good advice to talk this kind of thing over with your agent before filing a claim. That is what I did. The minor backing accident wasn't reported because I was able to buff out and touch up the damage myself. I did file a claim for the keying incident to my wife's minivan because it meant over $300 less out of pocket for me (the TOTAL damage was over $450) and my agent was clear that the claim would not raise my rates. I have worked with this agent for many years and trust him. He seems to know his stuff, plus I don't think he is dumb enough to risk many years of future business from me for auto and homeowners insurance by telling me something that wasn't true.

    Also, my son is on a different policy than my wife and I are, so how would an act of vandalism on my wife's minivan, which is a on a different policy, affect the premiums for the policy that my son is covered under? That doesn't seem to make any sense.
  • ray_h1ray_h1 Member Posts: 1,134
    )) "I was wondering if anyone has had problems with the Leather seats in the Sonata? ... I put leather conditioner on the seats twice a year and I don't feel this should be happening on a car with 28,000 miles." ((

    Sorry to read of your troubles. I also have a 2003 Sonata with leather. So far, no problems at all. First off, can you actually feel surface damage or detect actual peeling along what appear to be crack lines? If not, you may only have a build-up of past leather care product applied too liberally and dirt concentrating along to crease lines formed from your body weight while you're seated. Try a tin of common saddle soap (brand is irrelevant) to see whether you can remove your seatback's "cracking". Assuming that's not the case, unfortunately, automakers classify upholstery as a "normal wear and tear" item - not covered beyond the first 12 mos./12,000 miles in service by Hyundai. Hyundai's basically told you to go blow on the basis of "Other wear and consummable items" as listed on page 17 of your 2003 "Owner's Handbook & Warranty Information supplement booklet under, "WHAT IS NOT COVERED". If you plan to keep the car for any extended length of time, you have several choices:

    1) Live with the damage.

    2) Buy a replacement seat back cover through the dealership.

    3) Have a local upholstery shop match the grain and color and fabricate a replacement driver's side seat back cover using the current one as a pattern. Careful with this option, though - not all independent upholsterers are vigilant about assuring that the side air bag will be able to work properly if it's called on to deploy in the event of a collision. (The original seat cover is specially scored inside its outer surface to rip open if the side-cushion airbag has to deploy.)

    To late to help you now that the damage is done if it's really cracking, but I still have yet to find anything in leather care superior to good old fashioned saddle soap. Saddle soap cleans as well as anything and better than most with its fine, high-quality soap, emollients, glycerin and lanolin to maintain suppleness, and just a bit of light wax to seal out moisture and seal in the emollients. Saddle soap's readily available at any saddlery and most feed shops. Sometimes it's stocked at general retailers where they keep shoe polish.
  • bsancatbsancat Member Posts: 27
    I have an 06 Sonata with light beige leather seats. The problem I'm having is with dye from certain color shirts (red especially) discoloring the leather if the shirt is somewhat wet (I live in South Florida so when one sweats, the shirt gets wet). It has been difficult if not nearly impossible to get all the red color off the seat back. Hyundai has been no help.

    Thanks
    B.S.
  • bhmr59bhmr59 Member Posts: 1,601
    backy, I was not trying to "blast" you. I was trying to offer a cautionary note to you and others about filing claims for minor damage amounts. It's good that you talk with your agent and he can give you sound advice. I would guess that your agent probably encouraged you to register and insure your son's car in his name. Correct? Whether he recommended it or whether you thought of it, I think that is the smart way to go and advise my client accordingly.

    Yes, they pay a bit more in the short haul due to loss of multi-car discount on the young driver's car. But they also take themselves out of the picture in the event of an accident and do not have their (the parents') rates go up in the event of the young driver's accident.

    Sorry if it looked like I was trying to blast you. And, you are correct that the damage to the oil pan was probably caused by hitting something and would be covered by "collision" insurance,which unfortunately would be categorized the same a hitting another car.
  • bhmr59bhmr59 Member Posts: 1,601
    Seems like your problem is with the dye running from the shirt, not with the car seat.

    Two possible solutions: 1) crank up the A/C so you don't sweat or 2) run the shirt through the washer a few times to make sure the color no longer bleeds.
  • shardinshardin Member Posts: 1
    When first starting, I have a loud grinding/whirring noise going from 1st to 2nd. This doesn't happen at stop lights, only when I frist start the car. Also, this happens regardless of warm or cold engine. As long as I turn it off, then back on, it will make the noise. Took it in and they said it was the plastic engine cover, and they tightened it up. That did nothing. Any clues? This has been a prob since day one - I now have 5,000 miles.
  • ray_h1ray_h1 Member Posts: 1,134
    Transmission fluid level? You'd assume that'd be the first thing a dealership service department would be expected to check in cases of startup noise in gear. You'd be wrong in assuming anything where dealership personnel are concerned. Might wanna try a different dealership. They're not all "created equal". Also, if you're handy with common hand tools, remove the engine cover temporarily on the off-chance it's loosened again. That'll tell you immediately whether the cover's involved in any way. If the noise is still present, then time to squawk to a dealership again. Once you get this all sorted out, then replace the cover if you want to. Mine's sitting along a garage wall - where it'll stay until I sell or trade the car. (I'm still trying to figure out where automakers came up with the notion that naked engines are ugly...)
  • jlindhjlindh Member Posts: 282
    Troubleshoot the problem by keeping the car in first gear using the manumatic feature. If you still hear the noise, you're probably hearing the antilock brake test.
  • tkumpftkumpf Member Posts: 27
    Just curious:
    When you say "leather conditioner" can you be more specific? Reason is, the Hyundai drivers manual (at least for the 2007 model) states that all you should do to care for the leather is to use some cheesecloth moistened with a mild detergent and water.

    I'm certainly no expert in leather care, but I've also seen warnings to avoid using leather conditioners with silicone or waxes. I was wondering if what you are using contains either of these.
  • sinofenfensinofenfen Member Posts: 3
    It was my first time to turn on heat after purchase. Then I can smell sth. is burnt.It's not very strong, but strong enough to smell it. Then I found out that the smell is especially strong when braking, in other words, if I drive all the time without braking (such as highway), I can't detect the smell.

    Not sure where did the smell come from. I check the hood, but didn't see anything strange.I can smell it around the hood, or even around the trunk.

    Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks :confuse:
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