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Hyundai Sonata Maintenance and Repair

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  • astrolastrol Member Posts: 312
    Only one issue to report so far in 24K miles. My front brake rotors and pads had to be replaced due to warpage. This was not done as a warranty item which I am currently challenging with Hyundai. I have received assistance in this from the Hyundai Advocate over at T.H.C.org. and will report any news here in the future.

    There is still a slight buzziness to my rear door panels near the armrests when traveling over choppy road surface. I have made many attempts to insulate the door components and have finally reached a compromise level of sound. I may simply apply Dyna-Mat as the source seems to be something which I cannot permanently affect. Perhaps the window regulator design?
  • wigglerwiggler Member Posts: 4
    I have a 2001 GLS V6 and the Auto Trans seems to shift with a stutter from 2'nd to 3'rd... but only until it seems that it warms up (about 4-5 miles of driving). Note that the Temp gage shows normal temp after about the first mile, but it seems the trans oil needs to warm up and it must take the 4-5 miles. After that, the trans shifts smoothly. Have noticed also on the stutter of the shift that the tach jumps from 2500 to 3000 rpm's when it does this. Again, only on the 2nd to 3rd shift, WHEN COLD. All other upshifts seem to be fine, cold or not. Currently I have about 1700 miles on it, and it has done this since new. Do I need to be concerned, or do they all act like this. Thanks for any feedback.
  • jc58jc58 Member Posts: 48
    I too have noticed the tranny shift as you have described, the rpm's seem to jump and it sort of hesitates before shifting. It does only seem to be on the 2nd to 3rd sfift. And as you describe, it goes away after a while and shifts smoothly.

    Other than that no problems. I don't put too many miles on it ( I have had it since the end of May and have 2000 miles on it, but so far so good. I have a 01 GLS with moonroof, auto. The only other small item I have is a buszzing over rough surfaces, which seems to be from the passenger seat or the console. It is not too loud yet, so have not been able to isolate it.

    Seem to average about 23 mpg in my commuter driving, which is ok, especially since I have noticed gas prices for regular have gone over $1.90 again in the town I live ( 40 miles west of Chicago).
  • netzen7netzen7 Member Posts: 1
    My '01 Sonata also shifts "odd" at times, like described above. Seems to smooth out and then return unexpectedly. Warming up doesn't help me, happens between 2nd and third in the same RPM range. Worse when the A/C is on. I checked at the dealership, and there is a service bulletin out for some 2.4L automatics (like mine), but not mine specifically. Guess the VIN tells all. They "reset adaptive" and off I went. I'll ask them again when in for my next oil change.
    The trouble is the issue really is subtle, random and therefore "normal"??? No diagnostic codes print when they checked it out. I wouldn't complain (My Honda actually shifted worse) except the ride is so darn smooth, this little hickup just annoys me when it happens. I'm a computer programmer, so my speculation this is a "bug" in the Electronic Transmission code ;-). . .Like I know anything about it - NOT. Still, something isn't quite right. I've only got 3000 miles on the car, so maybe the thing just hasn't loosened up yet?
  • dougndodougndo Member Posts: 136
    This seems small, but since nothing else is troubling me at all, I'll post it here. I'm having a problem with the driver's side floor mat anchor. It keeps snapping open, then the mat gradually creeps up as I drive.

    This began after I had the audio system replaced, and I think the stereo shop guys messed it up when they were crawling around.

    Does anyone else have this problem? How did you fix it? I'm not inclined to leave my car for a day at the dealer to get this fixed. The anchor looks like about 75 cents worth of plastic, so it probably costs $9.95.
  • 2000glsv62000glsv6 Member Posts: 16
    I had the same problem as you are having. I used some 5 min epoxy I found at the local auto parts store and used that to keep the anchor together. On mine, because it had been coming undone for so long, the carpet started to become very weak in that area. So I also drilled a small hole through the clip and the floor and installed a self-tapping screw to hold it all together and tight. It does not move any more now. For you, the epoxy may be just what you need. Try that first. If not, then go for the screw repair.
  • sonatavasonatava Member Posts: 75
    I haven't had that problem, but then again, I went to Walmart and bought 2 of those thick rubber all-season mats for the front. They're about $7 a piece and work really nice for when it's raining. The brown matches the Sonata's tan interior to look good enough for me.
  • 2000glsv62000glsv6 Member Posts: 16
    The mat problem described above is for the factory mats that use the anchor to keep them in place. I don't think aftermarket mats have this problem with the anchors.
  • sonatabeansonatabean Member Posts: 201
    I have two 2000 GLS V-6 with auto, and one of the cars had the same shift/rpm/"jerkiness" problem y'all described. It got severe enough, however, that the problem went beyond hesitation and weird shifting.

    In my case, the car started to misfire and stall.

    The problem, according to my dealer, lies in a engine sensor giving feedback for the electronic ignition spark. Somewhere between an upshift or downshift and the subsequent change in RPM and required adjustment in ignition spark, something goes awry and the problem you have happens.

    The sensor that initiates the spark needed to be changed in my car. Once that happened, the car ran absolutely perfectly.

    Oh - and the comment about Honda's shifting harder? No kidding! I still can't understand the rave about Honda. We've had two in the immediate family and one was complete garbage (transmission failure, 30K; Valve/seal/gasket failure 60K; required a new engine and carb at 90 K) and the other is simply average.

    So far, the Sonata has been a much better car, despite the sensor getting jiggy.

    Have you dealer check out that ignition sensor thing and see if it solves the problem.
  • rhard49rhard49 Member Posts: 226
    I have to say this they're consistant. My 2002 LX has the same 2-3 shift slippage when cold
    the tach jumps about 500-1000 rpms and the shift happens and it goes away when hot. I just took it back and was told it was normal! So we walked around to the front and took a brand new one cold out for a drive, Hmmm not normal on that one. Three weeks old and waiting for a meeting with the regional guy. It is tempting to hit it cold on that 2-3 shift and let the clutchs chew it up, It may be easier then fighting with them. And god I wish they'd train there people on what the heck and adaptive transmission is and explain what a microcontroller is. I heard way to many problems being blamed on adaptive during my recent visit.
  • rjklacikrjklacik Member Posts: 3
    I just purchased a new Sonata 2002 LX and I also noticed a shift slippage. I plan on mentioning it to the service department when I bring it in for a free carwash. Has anyone had any luck with a resolution?
  • pssonhnda1pssonhnda1 Member Posts: 20
    No tranny problem here, I have the 2.7L V6 if it matters to you all. Only thing I notice is that it tends to drop out of 1st too early for my taste. Might be something the computer will pick up on over time. Drove over 1000km this weekend with my only complaint being the silly cup holders...Sheesh...who designed that!?

    Ian..
  • rhard49rhard49 Member Posts: 226
    No luck with a resolution yet the dealer called it normal, yeah right! so we went and test drove a new one and it did not slip. I'm waiting for the dealer to contact the regional guy now been 4 days so far no answer. All they could say is there pretty busy. Meantime I keep my log & save my reciepts like the lemon law requires. Fix it or take it back!
  • rjklacikrjklacik Member Posts: 3
    Thanks for the update rhard49. I mentioned the slippage to the service manager and he said to bring it in. I plan on leaving it overnight so they can test drive it when it's cold. Due to a lot of things going on it will be about a week or two till I can bring it in. I'll let you know what they come up with.
  • rhard49rhard49 Member Posts: 226
    Not sure what part of the U.S. your from but we had a couple of cold mornings this week 30 ish
    I expected the problem to be worse, but on the colder mornings the problem wasn't there. It came back intermittantly during the colder day on short drives but was less pronounced normally it disapears when the car warms up and the 1-2 shift becomes more labored.
  • rhard49rhard49 Member Posts: 226
    Can you post the name of the sensor they replaced in your car to fiix the shift problem
  • blakejoblakejo Member Posts: 1
    I have just ordered a 2002 sonata LX and Have noticed a strange smell once inside the car.
    I be leave the smell comes from the leather, I also have noticed the same smell inside the
    Santa Fe. Both cars had beige leather. I ask the dealer and he did admit to smelling the
    strange smell. Has anyone else found this problem and if so how did you correct it?
  • wystwyst Member Posts: 9
    Maybe it's just the combo of new car odour with new leather odour. Is this your first car with leather? Ours has that combo smell, but that's normal. Some people like it some (like our neighbour) hate it.
  • tb88tb88 Member Posts: 242
    I hear a squeaking/ grinding noise coming from my back wheels when I first apply the brakes.
    The noise subsides as I brake a few times at normal speed (40/50mph). Is this a brake pad problem and can it be fixed?
    Sonata has around 7500 miles but this noise was there from the beginning and louder when the car is still cold.
    .
  • morris20morris20 Member Posts: 2
    I have a new 2002 LX experiencing the same shifting problem described by several persons on this meaage board. Talked to one service technician who said it was normal (called it "shift flare" to decrease wear on the clutch). Two other service technicians said I should bring the car in for a test drive, but they were not aware of this consistent problem with Sonatas.

    I notice that several people on this message board were trying to resolve their problem in October of this year. Could those folks please be kind enough to update the rest of us with how or if the situation was resolved. I would like to be able to tell the technicians how this problem was addressed by other service departments. Thanks for your help
  • nato1nato1 Member Posts: 102
    I have a '02 gls with the same problem in the 2-3 shift. I have a funny feeling the slip is in the lock-up torque converter. There aren't to many bands/clutch packs that can withstand that type of slip (especially for 100k miles).
    Thanks
    Nate
  • ufgatorsufgators Member Posts: 58
    Is the slip very noticeable and annoying, and is it consistent?

    Thanks,
    Justin
  • nato1nato1 Member Posts: 102
    I notice it, but I was a mechanic for 10 yrs. I am used to the 'hammer shift' from v8's. The shift is consistent, but isn't annoying.
    It's only when it's cold. Maybe the transmission programmers missed a byte in the translation.
  • lanman2lanman2 Member Posts: 13
    Hi Everyone!
    My 2000 Sonata GLS, w/option 13, had a vibration when it was operating between 20 and 30 MPH. It was a very definite shimmy and could be felt during acceleration or deceleration. It didn't matter whether the car was warm or cold.

    The technician determined it was an internal problem with the transmission and replaced it.
    No problems since then!

    I now have over 30,000 miles and consider this car to be 1 of the most trouble-free vehicles I've ever owned!

    LANMAN2
  • morris20morris20 Member Posts: 2
    After posting my problem several days ago, I've found the solution!

    If your experiencing hesitant shifting (shift flaring or slippage) on the 2002 Sonata automatic transmission, don't let a dealer or service center tell you there is no problem. I had several service centers tell me it was "normal" or "they didn't notice anything."

    Finally, I forced a service center here in Riverside, California to diagnose the problem (they're great!). It took a while, and I had to leave my car overnight. But here's the answer.

    The Power Control Module (a computerized part) that controls when the auto. trans. shifts needs to be updated. The service center contacted Hydundai, and Hyundai indicated they knew of the problem and have manufactured an updated Power Control Module. The service center, however, has to do a "one-for-one" exchange, which means they have to remove the part, send it to Hyundai, and then receive the new part and install it (all covered under warranty of course). But it means your car will be in the shop for a couple of days. I plan on requiring Hyundai to give me a rental car for that period pursuant to their warranty.

    Good Luck!
  • ufgatorsufgators Member Posts: 58
    Question: I have not gotten my 2002 Sonata yet, will new sonata's from this point on be installed with this new updated power module. Also, please keep us updated on whether or not this solution acutally works.

    Thanks,
    Justin
  • mbojanmbojan Member Posts: 3
    Hi my name is Marc. I have the base '02 Sonata. I bought my car on November 21. I have noticed that my transmission has slipped twice. Once when it was cold (low 30's) and it had just stopped raining. Originally thought it was due to the slippery road. Seemed the car suddenly downshifted. However, the transmission slipped again on my way home about 2 weeks ago. Same situation where the transmission suddenly downshifted like it couldn't decide which gear it should be in . The good news though is that it hasn't happened again, but it's also been very warm for this time of year in Maryland. Thanks to everyone who posted their comments on the board but especially 'Thanks' to 'morris20' for the info. I plan on approaching my service rep with the information. I need to find out as well if my car has the updated module. I'll keep everyone posted.
  • tmstanletmstanle Member Posts: 2
    I have a 2000 Sonata GLS V6 - the headlights dim while driving. I've had it in to one dealer who said "can't duplicate the problem" so long. Another dealer told me, yes that is a problem. He has changed many alternators and no solution.

    Anyone else have this problem - and what did you do?
  • nato1nato1 Member Posts: 102
    Just out of curiosity, how clean is the negative (black) connection at the engine block?
    What I am getting at is, that when you put a connector onto aluminum and run electricity through it, it will start to oxidize and corrode. Now, if any of the connections are 'growing' you're alternator maybe getting the 'wrong signals' and think the battery is charged. If you're handy with a voltmeter, start the car, turn on every thing and check the voltage drop from the casing on the alternator to the neg terminal on the battery. There should be very little voltage (0.1v) drop, also check the voltage on the battery while the car is running, should be 13.2-14.0 volts (ballpark). If you're starting to get nowhere fast, check the voltage at the cigarette ligther (easy access point) while your driving. If youre lights are dimming and the voltage is ~13.5 volts, I don't think its the alternator. Have you replaced the headlight bulbs recently?
    Hope this helps.
    Nate
  • vglushkovglushko Member Posts: 2
    Hello everyone and Merry Christmas!
    I've got my Sonata v6 two weeks ago. Everything seems to be OK except the gas consumption. I found that through out the city it was 15-16 liters per 100km and 9.2 on highway. (Specification says 11.8 and 7.3 respectivly).On my odometer just 900km. I did my measurements correctly no doubts.
    Have anyone tried to calculate the gas consumption? Any ideas what could be causing the problem? Thank you in advance.
  • vocalptvocalpt Member Posts: 1
    Thank you 'morris20' for the great tip on why the tranny is slipping between 2nd and 3rd. Mine has the same issue and I will be taking my car in to be fixed in a few weeks. When they replaced your Power Control Module, did it truly fix the problem? Do you have a reference number from Hyundai regarding the problem, or maybe a number to call? I need something more to go on if my dealership gives me any problems when telling them about what you were told. Lastly, did Hyundai pay for your rental while it was being fixed? Thanks again for the info, and anyone else who knows anything, please post! :-)
  • nato1nato1 Member Posts: 102
    vglushko:
    I too have noticed a higher than expected gas consumption, but I attributed it to letting the car sit in the driveway for 5 minutes to let it warm up a bit. I am trying to find what exactly is causing the extra consumption. Is it the rear/mirror defroster or the a/c being on with the windshield defrost? (you can turn off by hitting the a/c button after the defrost it pushed, I really can't see using the a/c when it's 20 degrees outside and the windshield is heavily frosted).
    I'm averaging 21 mpg (9.15km/liter?) with 50/50 highway/city. I'm not sure on the math, but I think it's 62miles/100km and 3.7liters/gallon or is it more liters/gallon?
  • vglushkovglushko Member Posts: 2
    Hi nato1!
    Thank you for your response. The gas consumption in your case will be 11.2 liters per 100 km ( city/highway 50/50). BTW the spec says it's has to be 10. This is just 12% higher. Not too bad. Mine is 25-35% higher. Just FYI if you'd like to convert the miles/gallon into km/liters here is the formula "2.354 : miles/gallon x 100". I am from Europe that's why I use km/liters. I am aware of impacting a cold weather, short rides, air conditioner and extra electrical equipment on total gas consumption. I would accept if the gas consumption was 10-15% higher as it's in your case, but 25-35% sounds too much. There is another thing that could be causing the problem. It's a driving style. Yes, I like stepping on gas, but for now while I am going through the break-in period I have changed my habits. Unfortunately, as you can see it didn't help much. What do you think about octane? The spec was given for 87 or 91? I think for 87. So for now I am feeding my baby with 92(and afraid of spoiling her), no sharp acceleration, no overload, no extra electrical stuff. We'll see after 2000km. It's 1150km on it.
    Another thing I've noticed is the transmission slip. On my car it happens once every time after I park my car for at least 15 min. Then it's gone. I don't know if I should take it to the mechanic or leave it as it is.
  • john344john344 Member Posts: 1
    question is the 4cy just as good as the 6 ? Also the warrenty how really good is it,do all maint have to be done by dealer? thanks
  • lanman2lanman2 Member Posts: 13
    My wife and I have owned 4 cyl.(1) and 6 cyl.(3) Sonatas, plus our daughter has a 4cyl. Tiberon.
    All have been very reliable. The only differences I noticed were the shift points are at higher revs. on the 4 cyl. and the engine noise was slightly higher when cruising at 65 M.P.H. and above. Also, gas mileage is slightly better in the 4 cyl.

    The warranty is very good! We have NO complaints!
    You do NOT need to have all maintainance work performed by a Hyundai dealer, but you should be prepared to show them proof of proper maintainance. Even if you do your own oil changes, etc. make sure you record them in the owner's book, at the proper intervals, and keep receipts for your parts purchases.

    After all, if I were to expect Hyundai to rebuild a motor or transmission, for free, in the year 2011 I think the least I can do is prove to them I took good care of the car.

    I wish you success in your purchase. Please keep us posted about your experiences.
    LANMAN2
  • jawabeanjawabean Member Posts: 12
    Recently, I had "CHECK ENGINE" light indicator ON few times. After restarting the engine, it went OFF.

    Today, on the highway after about 20 mins driving, the light went ON and at the same time a car shifted to lower gear. I was driving app. at 60mph and 2.2RPM, so when it happened it went to 3.2 RPM. I felt that the engine was weaker than usual. After stopping the engine for few minutes, everything appeared to be as usual OK. Then it happened 2 times again, while driving home.

    Any ideas?
  • denp3denp3 Member Posts: 99
    I have a 2002 Sonata with ABS and TCS. The manual is not to clear on the operating of the TCS. They talk about the TCS Off light being lit. I don't know if they made a design change or what. The TCS off light does not illuminate on mine. I don't know if TCS is off or on when the TCS light is illuminated. Does anyone else out their have an 2002 with TCS, if so how does yours work.
  • sambojohosambojoho Member Posts: 14
    I have a 2002 with TCS. The TCS button on the left of the dash (next to the Cruise button) turns the TCS system on and off. Whenever you start the car, the TCS is automatically ON with no light displayed on the dash. If you wanna turn it off, hit the button, and the TCS OFF will light up on the dash. If at any time during driving, the TCS kicks in, the light will flicker on the dash, showing it is working. The only time I have found it useful to turn off the traction control was when I got a flat and had to use the donut. The traction control didn't like the spin difference on the wheels with the small donut and thought I was slipping. Other than that one time, I just leave it in the default ON, so you don't have to do anything.
  • denp3denp3 Member Posts: 99
    That is basicly how mine works, except when I turn it off the TCS light comes on, not the TCS Off light. I'm not sure if that is the right light.
  • jmcroteaujmcroteau Member Posts: 8
    All four shocks were replaced at 50K on my '99 Sonata, with Hyundai parts. My front struts are leaking again, at 58K. Anyone had that kind of problem? I will have the dealer replace them again, on warranty, but I am considering offering to pay the extra cost for another brand parts. Any brand suggestions?
  • jeff3740jeff3740 Member Posts: 2
    I have a 2000 Sonata with the silver paint. I have just noticed that the paint on the plastic wheel covers and on the plastic door guards is flaking off. I have not spoken to the dealer, but I think the warranty for appearance items is only 1 year. I only have about 22K on the car. Any suggestions or similar problems/solutions?
  • abhijatabhijat Member Posts: 5
    I am going to buy a used sonata 95 std 4 door sedan. But I have heard that there are a lot of problems regarding transmission and it has to be redone. The car has 55 thousand miles on it. Does anyone know about this problem in sonatas. ANy help will be higly appreciated. PLease email me individually at axg292@psu.edu

    Thanks
  • de1029de1029 Member Posts: 52
    currently awaiting trip to dealer for 30000 mile checkup. will have side airbag recall work done, also. only real problem is passenger side window. it won't go completely up - livable...until i forget to put window lock on and someone opens that window. then i can't get it back up unless i park the car and grab the little bit of glass sticking up out of the door. what a workout. first it comes out a little. you let go and it 'turtles' itself back into its shell! hey, i might as well joke about it. i finally did manage to get the window out of its shell & 'all the way (as far as it would go) back up.' i do hear some clicking and rubbing sounds. as long as we have drought condiditions i'll be good until i get to dealers on wednesday.
  • greg_g56greg_g56 Member Posts: 1
    My 2000 Sonata GL's Front passenger door window's regulator burned out last week. (Driver's door went about 2 months ago). Dealer is out of the regulator's apparently their blowing out like birthday candle's. He has a back order in for 40 and that doesn't cover the # of cars already waiting for a fix. My appt. is Sept. 4 (if they get em in.)
    So make sure you call your dealer to make sure they have the regulator in stock before you have to make 2 trips.
  • dbumpsdbumps Member Posts: 1
    denp3: Your TCS light should not come on when you push the TCS OFF button, the TCS OFF light should come on. I also have a 2002 Sonata with the same problem that you have. The first time that I took it in, the dealer did not do anything, except push the button and said it was working. Now it has been in the shop for about 2 months. They have ordered and installed 4 different instrument clusters. Now they think it is the ABS module, and are trying to get a replacement part. I may know more next week.
  • denp3denp3 Member Posts: 99
    I talked to the dealer and Hyundai Customer Service and they both say it is working correctly. Apparently there are 2 different styles. The dealer had one that would light up TCS OFF, another dealer they contacted had 3 that worked like mine. The dash switches are different. Mine says only TCS OFF and the other style says TCS OFF/ON. The TCS does work correctly when on slippery pavement, it blinks like it should. The TCS defaults to on. I don't usually turn it off anyway. Let me know the outcome on yours. Yours may be working correctly if I was given the right info. What does your switch say?
  • drimpledrimple Member Posts: 47
    I've got a 2000 GLS with 42,000 miles on it. For about a year or so now we noticed a "whirrring" noise, kind of hard to describe. I had one friend say it sounded like a turbine. The noise was not horribly loud, but was present and sounded like it was coming from somewhere near the back of the car. My wife and I kept forgetting to mention it whenever we took the car to the dealership for an oil change (dealership is only a buck or two more than Jiffy Lube), but finally mentioned it when we took the car in for the airbag light recall.

    The dealership guys instantly recognized it as a noisy fuel pump and ordered a new one. It is being replaced under warranty. Once again I am impressed with Zimbrick Hyundai in Madison, Wisconsin. Their service department is top notch.
  • jdepungjdepung Member Posts: 2
    Hi Everyone,
    I have a 2001 Sonata with a problem that is puzzling the dealership. I am hoping someone else has had this problem too.
    Last week I drove to the grocery store with no problem. When I came out and tried to start the vehicle, I could not. There was power to everything (windows, radio, etc). But when you turn the key, absolutely no sound emitted. It was just dead. It was like the car wasn't in park or something. I took it out of park and put it back in. Nothing. I put it in Neutral. Nothing. Called Hyundia Road Side [non-permissible content removed].- they hauled it off to the nearest dealer. Two days later, I got it back with a new starter. No problem, right? Wrong. 24 hours later, it wouldn't start again. Once again, I call HRSA. They haul it off to the nearest Dealer (not the same one that had it earlier). This dealer was, however, the one that sold it to me. Well the car got towed there after closing on a Saturday. So no one even got to look at it until Monday morning. However, the dealership was soo busy that they didn't get to pull it into a bay until Tuesday afternoon. By that time, the tech went out to the car, started it just fine and pulled it in. Now the dealership says "There's nothing wrong with it." Help!!! This car is becoming very unreliable. If anyone has had this problem please let me know.
    Thank you
  • shiekshiek Member Posts: 1
    Not a Hundai owner but my wife wants to be, thats why Im here. Seen this type of problem before on other makes. Ground at battery at fault.
    Tell service center to get out of their peajammas
    and check/clean ground, or you can do it your self.
    Also if it happens again connect jumper cable from ground terminal on batt to frame of (Your )car and try start. This action will verify my guess. Good luck.
  • de1029de1029 Member Posts: 52
    reply to greg_g56: thanks for response. got busy and didn't see your reply. but, i had no problem at dealership where i bought the car. they replaced the regulator and since i mentioned the driver's side door window made a clicking sound when it reached the top of the door frame when it was being closed, they checked it out. it also was ready for a regulator...but they didn't have one to do the job at that time. they would have to order one which they did. they called me two days later because they had the part. i have to make an appointment to get the work done. that will be in a few weeks. but, i certainly will call ahead to make sure they STILL have the regulator. thanks much for your reply and info. so far, dealer has been ok...no complaints. thanks, again.
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