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Hoping to get some advice on the best choice for daily high-speed (75-80mph) long distance 125 mi round trip daily commute. Unfortunately high speed performance as well as fuel economy are significant. Creature comfort is important, with 10-12 hrs logged each week. Should be a mid to large size - (I have a daily passenger) as well as two teenagers on off-hours. I have considered and cannot resolve the hybrid-conventional engine debate - but with 36K per year gas is significant. I was looking at 4 cyl camrys & altima hybrid and non versions but have concerns over highway power - lately have started to think about Aura, Fusion/Milan as well - Mazda 6 is basically out - premium fuel - I'd love the cx-7 otherwise and actually could see getting a cross over - current vehicle is a 2001 caravan 3.8 v6. I'd like to keep the tab under $30k - any input would be wonderful.
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Especially at 36K miles/yr...
An Accord EX-L 4-cylinder would fit the bill.. Or, a Toyota Camry 4-cyl.
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Its the NJ tpk and as long as the Governor is not on the road, its a pretty uneventful drive. Am I correct in thinking that a new vehicle is a better choice? A late model certified with 25k is typical - but the price diff on the better cars - accords, toyos, nissans is minimal and two years I'd have close to 100k again on the odo. Will the japanese cars go 200k w/out major repairs? (I've put TWO trannys in the *&^%!! caravan in 100k, and rebuilt head in the passat at 80k...)
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PS Just saw a 2005 altima at a local dealer web site with 7800 mi -may take a closer look...
CX-7, forget about it - milage is bad (best at 22) and requires premium, although there is some gossip that it would change to regular for 08
Altima Hybrid - doesn't even get close to MPG that you'd expect from a hybrid
For your situation Camry Hybrid seems perfect (especially with your yearly milage), plus right now you can get 07 model for about $1000 below MSRP. Another good car is a Passat 2.0t, my wife gets over 32-33 mpg on mostly highway commute. Here in LA they advertise 07 Passats for 4-6k below MSRP (6k for a V6) - that would add to a good deal.
I tend to agree that the Camry Hybrid looks awfully good - but wonder about the altima - its the same hybrid system licensed in by Nissan but tuned more toward performance - I just didn't think it was that much poorer on mpg. The altima actually turns out to be a lot pricier at the same level of trim, so that's a factor as well. The whole hybrid/gas debate comes down to acquisition cost differential vs expected fuel savings - and high speed driving minimizes the impact of hybrid technology - the gov has a good website fueleconomy.gov and the "your mileage may vary" button at the top takes you to the new 2008 window stickers and a conversion tool as well - you can even put in your own city/highway and yearly mileage numbers - I just have a little trouble believing - need to leave work early today, so I will be back on in an hour or so. Thanks very much..
I was very impressed with the ride, interior comfort and general feeling of stability at high speeds. I was very happy that I rented it. We put about 500 miles on it in five days.
I'm not a domestic car fan, so I wouldn't want to speak to longevity, but it sounds like your 50K miles/yr are going to be easy ones.
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kyfdx
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I was reading on another forum some just delighted with his Fusion and giddy that it ran about $4k less than a comparable toyota (both v6 btw) So I think I ment to say I was considering the Fusion/Milan twins - Focus is a little light for daily tpke traffic. Speaking of Honda, I believe the entire Accord line is due for a make-over for the 2008 year - more than cosmetics (though sorely overdue imho), the power train will revamped - vcm and probably cvt - so even the non hybrids should be greener. Kinda makes me want to wait til late sept (if my cars will stay out of the shop that long.) Still can't solve the hybrid equation, though. No one likes the altima but me?
Just my nickel.
My question is performance - I still want a car I can jack at 75+ mph and not worry about the sleep-deprived 18 wheeler drifing out of the center lane...
Going to go to school on the diesel - but I just hope the old cars hold together while my wife makes up my mind...
It was a Fusion, not a Focus that I rented....
All those Fs.. you know..
Hopefully, that post makes a little more sense, now..
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Funny how it took so long to get to this...Cerberus must keep this going, however, and make sure these new products do not fall apart!
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OW
Try something like this as a Firebird, please!
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The Elantra Limited has alot more standard equipment that even a Civic LX. Leather interior, Alloy wheels, a roomier car, and a better radio to name a few. I would check the standard equipment at the price point between the cars you are looking at. Cruise was a must for my next car. I was given a better deal on the hyundai here, with a OTD price of roughly $17,000 (including the $1000 rebate). The strongest point for the civic of course is resale value.
1. Keep the 330i. On a 3 year plan, my payments will go up to ~ $680 (I'm currently paying $570 on my 15k, 36 month lease)
2. Return the 330i, and lease the 328i. The 328i has 16 inch wheels vs 17" on the 330i, run flat tires vs regular tires, regular stereo vs HK Logic 7 on the 330i. It does have an ipod input though!
What do think is the better option? I love driving my car, and feel it has enough power for me. Does the new 328i offer a similar experience? Same amount of torque at highway speeds?
Financially, the 328i lease might work out to < $500 on a 12k, 36 month lease, in the SF Bay area, given what I have read on these forums.
The 328 is where the old 330 was. If you want to keep the car for a few years you are better off financing the vehicle rather than leasing.
If you want to lease and keep your payments the same, check out the lease rates on a 335. The 335 is not in any way similiar to the 330. You have to drive it to believe it.
True enthusiasts have trouble considering a Lexus because there is not enough enthusiasm between the wheel and the road. Too numb, too "nannied," too Toyota.
That's not necessarily my opinion, but a lot of people share it, and would disagree with your statement.
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=120903
The word has been that the Accord diesel available for the 2009 model year will be 4 cyl. Honda is developing a V-6 diesel for it's truck line. No word from Honda on a V-6 diesel for the Accord.
A new one would only be about $18,400 based on the limited reading I do in the Honda Element Prices Paid forums.
The problem is, I have issue with my hands (think carpal tunnel but different). Anyway I was wondering if anyone knows of a car that might have steering that requires less force than the G35 but with similar characteristics (size, price, performace, etc).
For instance, does the Acura TL have the same stiff steering? Alternately, if I went to something like the Lexus RS350 would the handling be so sloppy that I would hate it?
I just want to know what my options are and narrow down the field a bit.
Thanks,
-Jeff
Active Steering uses a supplemental, motor-driven gearbox to increase or decrease the amount of assist from the conventional hydraulic power-steering unit. The system is designed to add a level of responsiveness appropriate to the driving situation. In low-speed maneuvers, such as in parking garages, Active Steering "boosts" the ratio of standard power-steering assist, meaning the driver does not have to turn the wheel as much as usual.
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My question is, would I be better off buying a brand new 328i instead of this almost fully loaded 2006 330i?
Thanks in advance.
If you are interested in keeping the vehicle longer term, I'd lease or buy a new one.
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Try a TL and see.
We're new to this board, but are curious which car you'd recommend between the following:
New 2007 Acura TL base model with Navigation package.
A local dealership is currently offering us the advertised lease deal of $369 a month with $1999 down for 36 months with the Navi as a "free" add-on (i.e. current lease offer is as stated above without Navigation and they are including it for the same price).
OR
A family member is coming off a short-term lease on the 2006 325i. He has many of the upgrades, including the premium package, navigation with blue tooth, power seats, cold weather package, and a few others. He has only put 8500 miles on it (in 2 years) and the lease-end buyout is around $28,000. We can get financing of 5.99% on a $25,000 loan through a credit union and will put up the balance in cash.
We plan to keep whichever car for about 3 years.
The question isn't as much lease vs. buy as it is which would be considered a better deal, and which car do people prefer? Also, any idea what the resale might be on the BMW in 3 years (we will put a max of 8000 miles per year on it)?
We test drove both today and my husband likes the sportyness and responsiveness of the BMW while I like the extra space in the TL. Note that we live in a city (DC) so parking can be difficult, which makes the size of the 325i more appealing.
I know we'll be happy with either, but would appreciate any comments/suggestions.
Thank you!
We don't drive much, as we live in the city and both walk to work. Thus, we end up putting only about 6000 miles a year on a car and a hybrid just isn't worth it for us financially.
Also, we did test drive the V6 Camry and weren't thrilled with it. (Perhaps because we currently have a '95 Camry and can't help but compare it to that.)
Anyone else have any comments? Thanks.
At first, I thought the Acura would be cheaper over the 3 years, as that is a decent lease deal, but if you are only putting 8K miles/yr on the BMW, you can likely drive it just as cheaply.. You'd be paying for miles you aren't using on the Acura..
The only caveat? After 2 years, you'll be out of warranty and free service on the BMW. (Assuming it will be two years old when you get it).
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kyfdx
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It is going to be a used car but what would you give to your teen?
I need a used car, low mileage, and very dependable, and cheaper parts if needed.
Thanks
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OW