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I noticed too how much better my '90 300ZX grips when i put z rated tires on it. I totaled another 300ZX on a slick road just tapping the pedal one night.
One smart-[non-permissible content removed] salesclerk (I won't insult salesmen by calling him one) even said that if I bought the car I could take the run-flats off once I had bought it. Duh. Now you see why I'm here. I'll be damned if I buy a 60K+ plus car and then pay an extra 800 for two "required" "options", that I don't want.
What do runflats have to do with premature tire wear? They wear just like non-runflats do. By the way, Avon makes a matched set of tires that fit the Z and are very reasonably priced on tirerack. When its time to replace mine, that's most likely the route I will be going (they are also all-season, so that should help with the previously discussed adverse weather driving).
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
Infiniti G35 Coupe discussion about their experiences with the tires.
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On the Z, I was able to confirm recently that the 05 owners are having the feathering problem. I would not believe anything a salesman tells you.
With the upgraded interior, the coupe is an excellent choice. You may consider to buy in October when the 06's are in for some good discounts on the 05, must be less than invoice. Good luck!
007
May I ask what made you switch from looking at sportscars like the S2K and 350Z (which, at last check, you were buying a 350) to getting a near-luxo sedan?
Why not the coupe?
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
But, where do you live? Because, honestly, I would never suggest the Z as a daily driver. It is HORRIBLE in adverse weather conditions. If you live where it snows, then you will have to invest in a set of snow tires. Even if you live in the sunbelt, you are going to want to replace those stock shoes with a set that will at least be better in the rain.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
I know the snow can get crazy sometiems... but i dont plan on going out int eh blizzard... can it handle 1-2 inches?
Sorry for the confusion. Last year in October, my fiancee and I bought a 05 G35 sedan. It is pretty much her car. In the last month or two, I was shopping for sportscar myself. Looked really hard at the Z since I really like G35. Went to a couple dealers and even got some prices. Did some more research in some Z forums and found out the feathering problem hasn't gone away for the 04 and 05. As a result, I didn't want to take the risk and decided to wait again. I will probably wait for the new miata(mx5) to come out and go from there.
007
well, good luck with whatever you decide.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
I noticed this when I went to a meet in NJ ... I like the wheels on the automatic version better than what came on my 6-speed. Too bad the autos only have 17s, but those little dimples on the spokes, I think, are cool. Nice car, Zlady.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
Thanks so much for posting and the compliments! I just took some pics this weekend. The whole front to show off the custom grill and the back to show off the Kaminari spoiler. Also, I have a light ring behind the "Z" logo in the sides, but they only show up at night and give a nice glow...and it shines down like a fan beneath it...
I do like the rims..alot...they match the dimples on the door handles. Maybe next year I will go 18" on the front and 19" in the back...but for now I'll wait till the tires are worn and go from there. Plus it's a big expense and I couldn't find just want I wanted and so I'll wait. Thanks again!
Zlady :shades:
This is Zlady. I purchased the spoiler from a site called "The Z Store". It showed alot of spoilers but I loved how this one 'curves' in on both ends in the back...very different looking. Offered by Kaminari. There were a couple of others but they I would have had to remove both logos from the trunk and I didn't want to have to do that.
Zlady
I am new to the group. I just got the Zea-bug and have not yet drove the car but a friend gave me a ride in one. I love the car, but I am curious what the upkeep is like on one of these cars. I have friends who tell me their Japanese cars are very expensive to service. I asked the salesmen about the tire problems and they pretend to never have heard of such problems as though I had been talking with men from the moon. I am near retirement and would not be using the car for daily use, just pleasure driving and things like that, I am easy on a car. I currently own a Lincoln Mark IV that would share the garage with the Zee... Interested what you have to say, should I shop low miles used or by new ? I really do not want to buy something with high miles or a returned lease car that has been abused... Jim
It will make a nice complement to your Mark (I always loved those cars....thought they were styled nice, luxurious and had V8 power).
As far as upkeep, this is pretty low maintenance. It has a timing chain, instead of belt, so no worries there. I've switched to synthetic oil and will probably still with the manufacturers recommended 7500 mile oil change interval. 14K miles on mine now and the brakes and tires still look good. I will be rotating the tires every 7500, as well. Tune-up, as on most cars these days, is scheduled for 100K miles. So, really, this car is surprisingly low maintenance. Less than both my Honda Pilot and my Volvo S70.
Like you, this is not my daily driver, and I am still convinced that I made the best possible choice for me. I absolutely love driving this car.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
If it's not going to be your daily driver, might I recommend getting the roadster. I really wanted the roadster, but debated spending the extra money. All I can say now is that it was worth every extra cent many times over. You owe it to yourself to at least try the convertible. It literally brought a tear to my eye the first time I took it through the mountains, west of Denver. Nissan really did their homework on the roadster, it loses very little rigidity. Most of the car mags are impressed with how much it feels like the coupes in regards to handling. The airflow is great. With the top down you can have a normal conversation at 90mph.
The only other advice I would have is to get a new 05 if you can afford it. I got my 04 new at $4500 off sticker and 2.0% financing(who in their right mind buys a roadster in Denver in the middle of Nov). If you wait you can get a smokin deal on new ones, and the later the production date the less likely you are to have issues since they had more time to get the bugs(including the feathering) worked out.
I was considering a lease but after realizing what pride I could have in ownership, I changed my mind...the extra 50-70 dollars a month will be more than worth it!
Bought from a pretty big high-end used car dealer (mostly porsches, benzes, bimmers, jags, that type of thing) ... I didn't get a discount... he was asking $26K and my shopping experience up to that point told me it was a very good deal as priced, so I paid the money and ran.
Rate? ummm, let me think back .. oh, yes ... also pretty good for a used car ... i had gotten pre-approved for something like 4.85% over 5 years from an online bank (e-loan, i think), but this dealer got me 4.65% through his lender. But, obviously, your rate can easily vary based on credit score, current federal reserve rate, alignment of the planets, etc.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
Thanks again...wish me luck in my search.
good luck.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
Seeing as how Track models only add about $700 to the trade-in value over a Touring, and given the 15K miles, I could see it being possible they were '04s ... but also knowing that I've seen many folks overpay for used Zs, I could also see them being '03s.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
I've been told that switching tire brands might help - there's an ad for Michelins in the new Motor Trend, which I take to mean that we've now got a wider selection available.
Has anyone Swapped brands this with success?
Any otherideas for me?
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
Some folks have had perfect success swapping tires .... some haven't. Its a crapshoot.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
I am buying a 2005 enthusiast. Anyone bought their Z in the past month, and if so, how much did you pay? I think I can get some negotiation going on because they are trying to get the '05's off of the lot. I bet I can get out the door in an enthusiast for under 27K.
$2K BELOW invoice?? Good luck!
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
007
My '04 already has VDC and standard 18" wheels.
Other reports say new LED taillights, by the way.
Bi-xenons, LED tails, and MP3 capability are the only good additions I've seen reported, personally.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
'06 Z Debut
With 18's, bi-xenons, and 300HP with 6MT all standard now, what's the point of continuing with the 5 original models, plus the new Grand Touring?
the real question, i think, is what will be the differences between the Track and Grand Touring? I assume the grand touring will come with luxury features not on the track model ... so I'm guessing, in order of pricing, this Grand Touring model will now top the lineup.
Based on Nissan's site, I'm beginning to wonder if they have REMOVED VDC from the regular Touring model:
New Grand Touring coupe model – includes Touring Model plus Brembo® brakes, front and rear spoiler and Vehicle Dynamic Control (VDC)
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
The new wheels look sharp. As for the front end styling changes, I can't tell a thing. Going to have to see it in person. The LED tail lights look good, but most importantly, it looks like the interior door panels are much improved.
The Grand Touring Coupe sounds like a Touring with Brembos, aero package and wheels to me. Or a Track with leather. Maybe it's just a permanent name for the 35th Anniversary model.
Now all it needs is a moonroof option...