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A 2+ month wait-time seems extraordinary to me. I couldn't wait that long.
Rich.... Any '05 MZ6 Engine changes in the works? Better fuel mileage and cleaner emissions? Thanks.
MARTIN
no changes that they have mentioned so far.
As Rich said. no changes to the engines, but 2 very important changes that will AFFECT the engines:
6S (Auto) : 6 speed auto transmission
6I (Manual): New gear ratios for 4th & 5th.Gears
dropped.
2-BTW,Rich: Do you happen to know if they are switching over to spin-on oil filters on the '05 6Is? Or can you find out? There have been rumors to that effect. The cartridge filters they put on the '03s and '04 were one of Mazda's more stupid decisions. Hope there's something to the rumors.
I looked over the stuff they sent me and there is no mention of the filter...But they usually dont't talk about that stuff on my end. We also have not received the 2004 tech manuals yet.
Thanks cheese.
As Rich said. no changes to the engines, but 2 very important changes that will AFFECT the engines:
6S (Auto) : 6 speed auto transmission
6I (Manual): New gear ratios for 4th & 5th.Gears
dropped.
2-BTW,Rich: Do you happen to know if they are switching over to spin-on oil filters on the '05 6Is? Or can you find out? There have been rumors to that effect. The cartridge filters they put on the '03s and '04 were one of Mazda's more stupid decisions. Hope there's something to the rumors.
Although not hard to understand since at that speed your revving 4300-4800RPM the whole way. Prior to that, borrowed her husbands 02' Mustang V6. Same length, same speed and was able to do it at 22MPG, turning 2300-2600RPM. You would think the I4 6I would do better with fuel than a V6, but in this case, that wasn't the senario.
"Where can you cruise at 95-108MPH and not endanger the public?"
FL Turnpike, when your cutting through swamps. We all endager ourselves and other's when we drive off our driveways. Some just have no concept of their vehicles and their limitations, so "to be politically correct" speed limits are something those people should follow.
What's worse... This time around for 30 Miles I was being followed (literally on my bumper) by some guy in a Chevy Venture, with kids inside. YOU DON'T DO that... Specially not behind me because I do tend to slam brakes if I see cops up-ahead/radar detector beeps.
And then of course once you hit Palm Beach south, the Banana Republic starts, so people have no understanding left lane is for faster vehicles.
"inconsiderate drivers forum"
Can you link me, to discuss issues like above? Would love to share some things some rude driver's tend to do.
Ahh yesss. The Fl turnpike. I got absolutely LEFT at 130 mph on that road trying to follow a 911 Turbo. It was a spectacular display of Porche power.
The Sandman :-)
(Live by the sawgrass and 441)
Hardly. I have a 6i MT, and I just got back from a road trip up to Mille Lacs Lake and I was going about 80 mph the whole way. I even did a few 3rd gear downshifts. I got 32 mpg. Just checked it 20 minutes ago.
sawgrass & Coral ridge
Using that kind of logic you could justify almost any kind of socially irresponsible behavior.
"Using that kind of logic you could justify almost any kind of socially irresponsible behavior."
Most accidents occur, for the simpliest of stupidities. Running red lights, talking on the cell phone, switching lanes without turn signals, NOT knowing what your vehicles limitations are, and plain LACK of common sense.
Those I've known to have gotten into accidenst, NONE were speeding... They were nicely following the flow of traffic, and something stupid occured... I see it this way, When your ALERT and paying attention at numerous factors, all 3 mirrors, and watching out for cops (for those who do not have the benefit of dating police officer's that can fix tickets for you), your more involved and aware of what's going on.
When it's YOUR time to go, your going to go hitting a wall at 90MPH, or being stopped at a traffic light and having one fall from the cables/posts onto you. Those who have an issue with it, can stay in the comfort of their right-most lane and do as their wish, just avoid the left most lane. Unlike this Corolla on the Turnpike tonight that THOUGHT because he was going 5MPH over the speed limit, was enough reason to take the left most lane. (But this is common in Miami, 3rd world thinking).
If you knew what I do on the side, you would understand that taking a Mazda6 at 100+ is quite typical. And reason for me taking her car, was because (I thought I was going to save fuel, HA), but manly because it would have been a wet ride. I would NOT have passed an 18 wheeler on rain covered highway at 80MPH on a Mustang (which I had years ago as an example, since it's RWD).
Again, it's all knowing your limitations.... Ironically, the few around me that have complained about my driving, are those that themselves have been in accidents, or hypocritically chat on their cell phone and cause the accidents. YET, these hypo-critics need to be rushed to the hospital (labor, heart-attack, etc) I Get called to rush them there, figure that one out.
Speed is ok, as long as common sense, total alertness, and understanding of vehicle limitations are understood. As I've mentioned, those I know that have gotten into accidents were lacked one of the above, and speed wasn't an issue.
Overall, many won't (nor do I recommend it) take their 6's above to the limits. But I can tell you, it's one of VERY few FWD vehicles that I will drive, only because it's limits are high overall and I'm aware of the engineering behind it.
The next treat, will be the new Ford 500 coming out. That'll be another great example of a vehicle with very good roadability, and high limits and while it won't approach the drivabilities of the Mazda6, the engineering behind it's engineering won't lag that far behind it either.
And speeding.
From NHTSA stats:
Top 10 Related Factors for Drivers Involved in Fatal Crashes
Factor, Number of incidents, percentage of total:
Failure to keep in proper lane or running off road .. . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 18,274 31.8
Driving too fast for conditions or in excess of
posted speed limit or racing . . . . . . . . . . . 11,371 19.8
Failure to yield right of way .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4,802 8.4
Inattentive (talking, eating, etc.) . . . . . . . . . . . 4,014 7.0
Operating vehicle in erratic, reckless, careless,
or negligent manner . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3,385 5.9
Failure to obey traffic signs, signals, or officer . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3,016 5.2
Overcorrecting/oversteering .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2,000 3.5
Swerving or avoiding due to wind, slippery surface,
vehicle, object, nonmotorist in roadway, etc.. . . . . . . 1,852 3.2
Drowsy, asleep, fatigued, ill, or blackout . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,677 2.9
Making improper turn . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,434 2.5
Also, you DON'T know when an animal is going to run across the road in front of you (and there are a bunch of critters that live around the Florida swamps. I live here, too.)
At the insane speeds you are traveling, you completely throw off the reaction time of other drivers around you. No one is expecting a car to close on them from behind at 100 plus.
Do everyone a favor and join some kind of auto club and get this stuff out of your system off the public roads. You are a menace.
Is it impossible to obey the speed limits (or at least stay reasonably close to them) and not be a menace?
How about sharing the road someone who is alert and NOT speeding?
I would suggest that we should worry about anyone who drives irresponsibly, whether it's because they're so stupid they choose to do things that distract their attention from their driving, OR because they're so arrogant they think they should be able to speed since they're such a superior driver that they can do it without endangering other peoples lives.
He is the kind of person who thinks his skills, ability, and attitude are so special, the laws don't apply to him.
Michael Schumacher has no business driving 100mph+ on a U.S. public road! But ANT14 is special, so we'll forgive him when he kills somebody.
Speed limits are set for the general public--bad, average, and excellent drivers. The best driver in the world cannot control every factor involved in a crash: the behavior of other drivers, weather & road conditions, equipment failure, etc.
ANT14, rent a track and get off the road. You idiot!
When the flow around you is doing give or take a difference of 10-15, it's easier to work with. Critter's? Driving on the Turnpike for years, even from being much younger, I have NEVER seen any type of animal or road kill on them roads. If they were secondary country roads, those I do follow...well maybe at 10 MPH for decoration.
So because someone exceed's the speed limit, this makes them arrogant? That perception is quite close minded based on little background information contained wherein. Everyone exceed's the speed limit, and I'm not going for "Saint of the year" award to deny such things. Secret is doing it responsibly, and with eloquence (use turn signals, and don't cut anyone off).
For all those are highly disturbed, chances are you have faced in situaion where someone rubbed you the wrong way while driving, and in turn have developed some road rage over it. And that's NOT a healthy way of driving. Or those hypocritically preaching like the P.L.O. while doing it behind people's back.
Arrogance: The word to use when you disagree with someone's views/action when your judging them.
That's pretty childish to make such accusations overall. Such hatred and hostility is really un-necessary on these boards.
Anyhow, this has gone off-topic, so get back to it. We wouldn't want new Mazda6 owner's to know they can't drive their cars above 55MPH, when they get to read this board.
I've gotten angry at times, as you describe, and done foolish things.
Nonetheless, for some reason, your suggestion that its is OK to routinely drive 100mph+ seems over the top and irresponsible.
"Isn't it arrogant, to take the left most passing lane just because your doing the speed limit and you think it gives you the right because your such a brownie girl, good do-er, that you think it's ok".
That's just part of being a rude driver, the passing lane is just used for that passing, but to keep the same speed to block passing traffic is rude. Do it, and your liable to getting honked at, cut off, have them trail your bumper where you hardly see their front hood. (I have a friend that does all the above when she's frustrated).
BTW, when driving a FWD car, and if you are bumped by the rear at high speed's (for those delicate watcher's-over 50MPH) by a car doing 2-3MPH more than you are, you will lose control, spin out, and probably flip (depending upon the vehicle, Corolla's Camry's are most suseptible).
Just a tip....
My worry is not with those in new (or even older) well-maintained cars. It's with the one in the 30-year-old Detroit sedan that hasn't seen a mechanic or even a car wash in much of that time. Equipment can and will fail, even if the guy in that old Buick, or the guy behind him, is an excellent driver. And when that happens, can the reaction times of either of them enable their intervention to prevent a serious crash?
There was a good column a few months back in C/D, about licensing individuals to allow them to travel at speeds considerably higher than the current speed limit. Can't remember who the author was (maybe Yates or Bedard), but the concept was interesting and certainly has merit.
Alot of us drive in a spirited manner, but we don't brag about it.
Not at all justifying...Shared a situation, then the moral patrol kicked in. I know what I do is wrong, my only convinction is from admitting, for far less other's have been crusified. It's like porn, some get a kick out of it privately, but publically they deny it.
" They have no obligation to help me drive carelessly, and I have no right to endanger lives by doing so."
And as I've stated a long while ago, you pull out from your driveway, and your a risk. How you wish to play your cards, is up to do, but you will always be playing offensively or defensively.
So you believe that pulling out of your driveway endangers other people as much as driving 20-30 mph over the speed limit. Now I understand the problem.
But the topic has moved on since nothing will change nor be resolved such as world hunger.
How many 6-01'+ people have a hard time adjusting into a perfect driving position on the 6?
This isn't the place. I'll be glad to provide a link to another discussion when one is started (or found) if you'd like.
And the name-calling that took place earlier is way out of bounds...
A few months ago I was (technically)speeding on the I-90 here at close to 80 and a guy came up on me at an ANT rate of speed--so fast that he was about to run up my tailpipe by the time I first saw him in my rearview mirror. I began taking immediate evasive action--heading for the right lane--but the guy was ALREADY trying to get around me on the right and we nearly collided in the right lane. I yanked the steering wheel left and swerved back into the passing lane as he roared past me head bobbing to his stereo music.
That [non-permissible content removed] nearly killed me. I'm sure he was physically healthy, had good vision and decent reflexes. But he nearly killed me and himself. 100+ mph on a public highway makes you an extreme menace no matter what your driving skills are. In an SUV you are an ultra-menace.
Most dangerous of all is that people driving at that rate of speed frighten the motorists they overtake, often causing them--the victims of their imprudent behavior-- to make a mistake out of sheer panic. I've seen this a million times. I've been there myself.
The rationale that anything can happen anywhere under any circumstances is a poor excuse for an argument. Yeah, I could be getting in my car in my driveway and the door from a passing jet could fall off, land on the roof and squish my car and me. Does this justify doing 120 on a public highway? I don't think so....
Take it to the track, ANT.
gee35coupe Jun 27, 2004 12:16pm
To all - as interesting as this debate has been (and it has), this is the WRONG place for it to occur. Please go to that link and follow gee's suggestion to continue. You can copy your posts from here and paste them into that discussion if you like, but we cannot continue this conversation here.
We need to get back on topic. We are light years away from the Mazda6 which means we are useless to the people who somehow think if they click on a discussion named Mazda6, they might actually find some conversation about that vehicle.