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Mazda6 Wagon
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I agree new bmw's are overpriced, but buying used can yield good value. I bought my 99 328 (loaded) with 14k miles for $29.5k during winter. I drove it for 2.5 years and 30k miles and sold it for $23.5. (all private party transactions) Considering that I didn't have to pay for oil changes or two sched. services during that time, I think I made out great. I'll bet two year cost of ownership on a nearly new Mazda 6 would be higher.
Anyway, is there any definite word on when the first wagons will hit the showrooms?
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
That said, Toyota options out their vehicles as extensively as the Mazda6. Albeit you probably had a myriad of choices on your "potential next car" list I would never expect to cross-shop a 4-runner with a Mazda6 tho; moving from a mid-size sedan under 25k to a massive SUV that can option at over 40k. The cars just don't equate.
Congratulations on your 4runner purchase!
During this delay, other manufacturers have made clear their intentions to introduce competing wagons at about the same time.
I, for one, may well end up in an 05 Legacy or Outback wagon. I otherwise would probably have bought the 6wagon.
Delay as a marketing tactic? Not in today's world.
between then other then sheet metal. The USA is finaly getting what other markets have had for over a year now.
For example, when BMW face-lifted the 3-series coupes a couple years ago, the coupes sold as one model year and the sedans another, even with the exact same production date.
- Mark
Depreciation is also a function of how long one retains the vehicle, and isn't much of a consideration for the 6-10 years crowd.
As for a 4 cylinder wagon, I can guarantee Subaru Legacy will have one. Apparently, the Mazda will NOT. Again, consistent with a drastic move upscale from the sedan.
People, watch and see. I bet the price on the wagon and hatch is at least 3k more than the comparable sedan.
I agree that, all things being equal, it would be better if the 6 wagon came out as an '05 at this point. I'm just not sure it's all that important to most people.
http://velocity.securesites.net/jrnl/2005/vmd10477ov.html
In fact, it looks pretty similar to the upcoming 6 wagon.
On price, I think we've got some people at Mazda saying the hatch will be about $1K more than the sedan and the wagon about $1.5K more, for comparitively equipped models. The 6 sedan is selling modestly at best, so Mazda certainly knows its got a tough sale on its hands. I believe someone on this forum alreayd has negotiated a $500 over invoice deal on a new wagon, so it not like the dealers think they have some high-demand model that they can charge an arm/leg for either.
And regardless of brochures or spec sheets, my money is that if the new model ships after March or so, it will be a 2005.
- Mark
Hope it wasn't to disguise a "stain" inside the door.
THE SUBIE WILL HAVE THE AWD ADVANTAGE, BUT ALSO WILL COST MORE.
MZ6 wagon 'S' manual trans.....$22,070
MZ6 wagon 'S' Auto trans.......$22,970
MZ6 5 door
'i' man trans....$20,600
'S' man trans....$22,645
add $850 for auto trans on 'i' model and $900 for 'S' model.
Some people have speculated there would be a $1000 premium for the hatch & wagon, but this doesn't seem to be the case; unless I am mistaken the price of the 5 door is almost identical to the price of the sedan with sport package.
Subaru looks like it will have what I want with the '05 legacy, so I will see what that looks like.
If both of those fall through, then I guess I am stuck with an Accord sedan. I much prefer a wagon, but I can get the Accord exactly how I want it, and I do have a minivan for when I really need to haul things.