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Honda Odyssey 1999 - 2004
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She'll be watching you, Phil47 .....
we've seemed to have settled into a range of about 22-24 mpg combined city/highway which i think is great considering how we drive. i read that a car moving at 55 miles an hour can get about 15 percent better fuel economy than the same car going 65 mph. we normally go at the 70 mph speed limit (well, hehehe, since we know the speedometer is a little off, we travel at an indicated speed of 75 mph, knowing that the highway patrol will probably give us another 2-3 mph slack).
how exactly do you use the roof rails that come standard on the EX? what i mean is, what can go on top of the ody and how is it secured? do you use bungee cords or rope or what? do you need the accessory cross bars? is there some sort of mat you're supposed to use to keep the roof from getting scratched? does the load sit on the rails or do the rails only provide a place to tie the ropes? thanks in advance for not lambasting me ;-)
Cost of the aftermarket is about the same as the Honda ones and in my opinion more versatile and rugged.
Anyone else car to chime in??
Robert
It is not a stupid question, it is a stupid design. It is one of the few problems I find with my odyssey. Either give me a roof rack or don't. Most real roof racks have the rails, at least two cross bars if not more, and the absolutely necessary roof protection strips. Otherwise anything you put up there will scratch the roof. Imagine tying a cooler up there after a day at the beach and then sliding it off. Ouch. As a result, the only use for the bars is as the anchors for aftermarket components, like bike/kayak racks, or carriers. The good news is that the inside is so huge that you may never need to put stuff on the roof. If you are interested in aftermarket stuff go to thuleracks.com or yakima.com.
Are there other providers that are competitive.
Do I even need the warranty given the supposed reliability of this vehicle?
Picking up today or tomorrow so any input would help.
Also I have not kept up with the forum here recently any big items I need to be aware of when picking up?
Thanks everyone this forum has been extremely helpful!!!!!!1
You've got to look at the bigger picture. As a typical consumer I am offered warranties and extended warranties and service contracts on almost everything significant that I buy. The odds are that one of these items may break down and in that one case that particular warranty is worth the cost, but overall the odds are on my side that I will spend less money if I don't buy the warranties and just pay out of my pocket to fix the things that go bad when they go bad.
Insurance is a similar deal, though I have to modify the philosophy to cover myself from "financial burden". So I have good coverage, but with a high deductible. The money I save on lower insurance payments (because of the high deductible) in the long run will easily cover the occasional item that falls below the deductible. Even with lower deductibles the insurance companies often raise your rates when you make a claim, so you end up paying them back anyway.
One case where you might consider buying a car warranty would be if data indicates that a car is especially trouble prone, based on Consumer Reports surveys or whatever you believe in. Then the odds might tilt in favor of buying the contract. But it's all a gamble anyway.
Daryl
That said, I suspect most people lose money on extended warranties, especially if they had put the money they spent on the extended warranty in an interest bearing account to pay for later repairs. This applies to the most or least reliable cars, since like insurance, the actuaries will price the warranties according to the risk involved.
On the other hand, some dealers sell them at nearly half the suggested price. With such discounts, you have a better shot of breaking even. Plus, for some people, peace of mind is worth any remaining difference, and it's easier to afford if you roll it into financing.
If you do buy one, just make sure to have all the recommended maintenance done at the correct time, and save all your receipts for parts and labor, especially if you don't have it done at your Honda dealer.
My ODyssey have have the fog lights installed. And I am wondering if the new fog light use the same wiring as the rounded one? If so, does Honda sell the new light housing and lens where I can just replace my housing and lens? how much would it be? Thanks
No matter how many ways you add up the votes, you can't decide on a winner. Do you try to repair the old van? Do you have a crisis of indecision?
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detector that I can mount on the back of Oddy?
I am always worried that I might back into something.
They are due to ship out around the end of this month and after we get some I'll be able to compare the parts to the other kit to see how interechangable they are.
I haven't seen any model cars for anything other than S2000's in the recent catalogs that we've gotten.
-Trevor
-Trevor
As for installation instructions they don't have any for any of the regular parts. Our shop guys use the Helm manuals (www.helminc.com) , but I don't think they'd undertake a custom job like that.
I wish they had simple systems for swaping items like that.
-Trevor
Fog light should be yellow lens, where Odyssey's and most of other brands of car have white/clear lens. It fill the gap between the head lights and the bumper. To me, it does improve the visibility especially to an object in the path of travel. If there is an object in the path, I would have a more time to see what it is and decide if I need to avoid or not.
Also, I changed my headlight and "fog" light bulbs to PIAA bulbs. It produce whitish lights.
The main difference between fog lights and driving lights is how far ahead the light is designed to reach. Fog lights generally have a wider and closer beam while driving lights tend to have a narrower and longer beam.
-Trevor
Lojack again is peace of mind. It is a wonderful system if you can get to the police quickly with the report and they place some priority on it. My understanding is that many police depts place low priority on Lojack calls. They are too busy dealing with more serious crimes. Lastly, do you really want it back??
So how does the dealer get by with $100 profit. Well for one thing many owners will not keep their cars 7 years and will sell the car back to a dealer so the dealer will gain that way. The warranty is transferable if you sell your car to a private party. Also though I believe you get something back if you do not keep your car the 7 years. The dealer also hopes that if you have a HCW you will come to his shop for all your service. Also most people pay him probably about $1200 for the HCW.
What I like most about the HCW is I don't have to worry about the dealer cheating me. If he says I need a new transmission, I say go ahead and install it. The dealer actual told me this on my last car when the transmission was perfectly good. I let him put it in anyway as I had the extended warranty. How the dealer was able to get away with this is another story, I will not get into.
Now as for putting the $900 in an interesting bearing account. Well lets say you can earn 6% and inflation is 3.5% which is about what it is currently running. Lets say you pay 30% tax on your 6% interest every year which is about average. So your true interest is 6%-30%=4.2%. Now you have to subtract for 3.5% inflation. So your true interest rate is 4.2%-3.5%=+0.7%. That is your true interest rate in this years dollars.
Using my financial calculator, at the end of 7 years you have in todays dollars $945. So you have a total of $45 extra over the $900 for repairs.
The bottom line is maybe you save a little without the warranty but that saving is just not worth the peace of mind in my opinion. And you don't save near as much as you think you do unless perhaps you think you will get rid of your car before the 7 years are up and plan to sell it back to a dealer.
Mike
In my opinion the oval PIAA 1000x looks better than the round pre-2001 Honda lights. The Silver painted housing and chrome lens holder of the PIAA goes well with my Silver Odyssey. PIAA also offers the 1400 fog lights which are rectangular. The only difficulty with installing an aftermarket light is trying to figure how to mount them without using the double-sided bonding foam tape which I did not trust and was dirty after transferring from the Blazer.
They would blind any on coming car (or F150) close enough. I never used my driving lights if there was on coming traffic.
Also, "thins" should obviously be "things" in the prior post....