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Aero has 250 H.P.,2.8 Liter turbo 6,choice of 6 speed man.or optional 6 spd auto .trans.,xenons std.,6 disc chgr.std.Touring pkg.@$1195 incl.rain sensing wipers,rear park assist,memory seat and mirrors,multi function rear view mirror ,with garage opener,auto-dim and compass.Loaded automatic @ M.S.R.P. of $36,265.00,Sport -combi @ $1,000 higher.
2 new colors....Jet Black Metallic and Fusion Blue.
Availability mid to late Sept.
I'm sure it's producing "only" 250hp because the car is still FWD, and doesn't have a very heavy front end. If it was much more powerful, it'd just end up spinning the front tires. That 258lb-ft of torque is tasty though.
I picture a AWD viggen model, producing, say 320hp, 320lb-ft, hitting 60 in around 5 seconds.
dave
Im surprised that the V6 did have 258ft lbs, that doesnt sound bad, EXACT same as 9-5 aero.
That AWD viggen ur talking about sounds very yummy :P
-renee-
I don't want it front heavy at all! It's 54/46 if i recall correctly--fantastic balance for a FWD car. The old 9-3 was way too front heavy. I'm just saying there's not much point* in adding more power until they have AWD.
*(they could add more power for the higher gears, 300lb-ft would be great for those 3rd gear passing manouevers.)
dave
I live in a warm climate, and have always been a Michelin guy, but am open to suggestions.
Thanks for the info on 2006 model changes. Can you give me the MSRP/invoice for the 2006 base model 9-3 with manual transmission? How do you calculate the final cost of an 06 base model, manual, with metallic paint, and premium package as the only options? Do you get the sense that this car's sales are successful enough in the US for it to continue given GM's troubles, or is it likely to be phased out. Thanks for your help
Tim
with manual, paint and premium - $29,065
this is according to cars.com - they have 06 pricing available.
It also appears that the 210hp engine is now the standard engine with the new 2.8 turbo V6 being the Aero.
But then after hearing about the GM employee pricing and $4k lease incentives, I decided to check out a 9-3 Linear. Drove nice, the wife liked it, more space than the A3 inside. I thought it might be underpowered, but I'd say it's acceptable. Here's the deal I got:
9-3 Linear (auto trans - no other options), white/parchment
24 months / 12k miles per year
0 down / sec deposit waived
$345 per month (includes NJ 6% tax)
Due at signing: 1st month, acq fee, mv fees, doc fee. (approx $1300).
Met some resistance regarding pricing, but eventually got the saleman to come down from $357 to $345 a month. Maybe if I visited every dealer in NJ, I could have negotiated $340/month, but couldn't be bothered. Thought it was a good car at a good price. The Audi A3 would have been $100/month more in my estimate.
-renee-
Good luck - let us know how it goes.
Thx, your help is very appreciated.
Love the car - has the QC improved since 2003?
You mentioned in your post that GM is expecting a lot out of Saab and that it can be used to one's advantage to correct problems. My wife's 2003 93 has an extreme hesitation problem which nearly terminates in a stall . The local Saab dealer and customer service have told me that the car is operating outside its design parameters (97 - centrigrade I assume) and cannot be repaired (Phoenix - summer = really hot). I'd like to know if you have any ideas on who else to contact, as customer service told me they were the end of the line and didn't really offer any help - they did ask what I wanted, but I haven't finalized that yet with my wife. I am going to contact the NHTSA via phone - already filed a report on the web, and will contact the general manager of the dealership. I haven't gotten to mentioning lawyers, because I think this should be solved amicably, if possible, but I am getting near the end of my patience. Any additional suggestions you might have would be appreciated.
my wifes friend said she had one and there are serious blind spots, should I be concerned
THANKS JF
I also understand that R-134a is just as damaging to the atmosphere as R-12. Any chemist out there to varify this? I'm a little rusty on my organic chemistry. :confuse: Doug Brown
Dealer stated that Saab didn't put ONSTAR on the Linear and for 2006 only on the Aero? I thought Saab put ONSTAR on all its cars? At least they used to?
Then said that ONSTAR was going digital and that all the previous cars it may not work. I think that is B.S. for I would be pretty upset if I bought an Escalade or XLR Caddy for 70K and a year later I have a system that doesn't work?
Wanted to buy my third Saab for my daughter to use, like the Saab safety, but the ONSTAR was also a big need. No OnStar, I can get the safety and cell phone with a new Jetta for less.
Anyone know the story?
We returned last month after getting a 2005 Arc Convertible.
I read an article recently regarding the obsolescence of many current ONSTAR systems. There were originally all analog. GM has been installing analog/digital units only in the past year or so. In 2008, cell networks not longer have to support analog transmissions. At that time, many ONSTAR systems will stop working.
Here is it from ONSTAR's website:
http://www.onstar.com/us_english/jsp/explore/onstar_basics/helpful_info.jsp?info-view=tech- _equip
****Mooselook**** :mad:
Thanks,
BC
The sales guy said that the 9-3 can use any grade of gas, but you may get more knocks and pings with lower gas grades. I have not tried using regular, but figure the extra dollar per tank is worth avoiding potential knocks (even with prices the way they are.) I am also very happy with the car!
Funny, a Saab that stickers near 30K for a 9-3 and I can not get ONSTAR, but if I want to buy a Saturn Vue for 2006, its standard equipment on every model, versus an option on the 2005's. Seems like reverse thinking at GM, I thought Saab was near luxury brand versus Saturn and discount line. I guess this possibly kills my 9-5 wagon choice. I'll see what the 9-3 combi comes with, maybe a lease deal, but it looks like the Saturn Vue all wheel drive with Onstar, Honda V-6 engine for the mid 20's may be a better deal for my kids to drive in with great safety rankings. Thanks for the information.
****Mooselook**** :mad:
a 50,000 mile warranty. Recently the car died and I had
the battery replaced, the steering column replaced,
the horn replaced and a few other repairs all under warranty.
I currently owe $ 9,000 on the car under the original
0% for up to 60 months (I actually will pay off the
car in 20 months). I really, really like this car.
I am not in an urgent rush to get rid of the car.
If I was to switch cars, I might go to a new Dodge Charger
but I'd be losing out on alot of the luxury features that the
Saab has.
My question, the Saab dealer has told me that I could
get a extended warranty when the car hits 50,000 miles.
He said they weren't cheap. Or I could pony up to one
of the new 06 Saab 9-3's that they don't have in stock yet.
However, I have one of the few Vector's in the State of
South Carolina. I am not sure I'd be 'moving up' if I got
one of the new 9-3's that are coming out, it probably wouldn't be
at 0% either and I'm not sure I'd be happy with the options.
I enjoy the features of my current car.
So would you buy a extended warranty? What type of
reliability issues do I face post 50,000 miles on the 9-3
if I plan to keep the car until 60,000 miles or so?
I usually drive around 21,000 miles a year.
Thanks!
Fr. Andrew
Also I have been in touch with a dealer here in new england to test drive a 2006 aero, but so far his response has been that he doesn't have one in the lot yet. I have a feeling he is going to call me only when the GM discount program ends.
Finally I'm not sure if it will be a wise decision to choose a saab aero over a 325i because it costs 2k less for the same set of options, any comments?
I quit buying service plans and extended warranties years ago.
I have been having the same problem of unexplained stalling with my 2003 9.3 Arc for the two years that I have had it. The car has been tested and examined three different times by me dealer without detecting the problem. I have a case opened with Saab U.S.A. and I'm wondering why no one has mentioned that mine is not an isolated experience.
Can you tell me where you are with your problem? I'm afraid that someone is going to get seriously injured if I keep driving this car.
Thanks,
Ben