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If you find what you want with color and all, go for it.
The engines used in the 9-3 and 9-5 are high strung little babies.
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I also think th 9-3 is a safer car than the s40.
I have the feature of rear seats that fold forward. I'm very happy with my decision.
My question is: Is the certification at an extra cost? It was advertised as a certified car for $17,000. Did I misunderstand? Does that mean it's ABLE to be certified?
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Has anyone else had this problem? I am going to complain about this to SAAB.
I have slightly under 30K miles. This is not good news.
If anyone else has leaks--especially if you're still under warranty, TAKE CARE OF IT RIGHT AWAY.
I'd also like to know. Thanks
BTW, re-surfacing the rotors is nearly a waste of time on the Saab. The rotors are soft and they get thin fast. I can guarentee that by not replacing the rear rotors, they will warp and fail a lot faster. I know brakes......but, I am also not looking at the car right now. Just speaking from generalities. Make sure they tell you using a caliper how thick they are after the re-surface compared to design spec.
BTW, Saab brakes parts are hard to find cheap. However, you can buy the rear rotors and pads for about $175 (depending on what wheel size you have) and then install yourself or find a cheap garage to do it.
http://www.saabpartsdirect.com/
I recomend calling them first BEFORE ordering brakes as each model and wheel size is different on a Saab. This is GREAT pasrt site for any Saab owner.
I had the dealer install mine this time since they did a bunch of "free" work for me. Long story short, that while they charges me $450 for the brakes, I got them to do a free rotation and a free tranny flush, so I figured the brakes only really cost $300 or $325.
With all that said, I am not looking at the vehicle and I can't see your rotors. Perhaps teh dealer goofed....perhaps you are one of the very lucky few. I find that Saab technicians are better then most, so it must be the later.
If I were you, I would ask the dealer how thick they were. If they were within spec, then so be it.
I bought mine at 22k miles 18 months ago. I have 50k on it now. Since I have had it, it has been to the shop 4 times for warranty work:
1 - Faded door handles
2 - Peeling interior trim
3 - Inop. sun roof
4 - Minror tranny issues
5 - Broken coil spring
6 - Two smog pumps
7 - Problems with radio
8 - Seat belt problems
Each time, the dealer has taken care of everything w/o issue. Saabs are nice cars....just be sure to have one with a warranty.
I bought a brand new 9-3 in December 07 but noticed the car has been sitting on the lot since June 07. So I'm curious if an extra oil change is necessary since supposedly the car sat at the dealership for 6 months undriven (from June - December 07).
I have a 2005 9-3 Arc, which has essentially the same engine as the current 4-cylander 9-3.
What is true is that 15K oil changes will most likely get your car to 100K miles, by which point most people have already sold their car. On the other hand, a good modern engine with oil changes, say, every 6,000 miles may well last to 250K miles.
There's a definite pattern for service intervals to become longer when manufacturers pay for them, independent of actual improvements to the engine. And in the case of manufacturers dropping free service ( such as audi ) the service intervals have become shorter. Also, when service was free/factored into price audi engines had longer intervals than the mechanically identical VW engines.
2) You're making my argument for me. To paraphrase your argument: "50% of people lease, so who cares how long the car lasts?"
1. Driver and Passenger-side headlight failures (replacement necessary)
2. Driver and Passenger-side break light failures (replacement necessary)
3. Check engine light came on (went away)
4. Break failure (absolutely momentary, went away)
5. Front break pads and rotors made grinding noise (replacement necessary)
6. Saab lock system failure (occurs occasionally, manual lock necessary on rear driver side door)
7. Remote unable to unlock car (very rarely occurs, unlock manually, and immediately turn car on to turn off alarm)(remote battery not low)
8. Traction control failure (only happens when breaking on certain hills, ABS pulsates, not a problem)
9. The far passenger air vent is broken (unable to close vent or direct air (Saab wants $300 to fix))
10. Had to replace middle windshield washer ($7, did it myself)
11. Coating peeling off of several climate control knobs, as well as the glove box release button (can't find needed part, problem not obvious)
12. Engine Malfunction light came on, twice (problem went away both times (since Saab dealer was closed both days, I waited it out))
Now, I know potential Saab customers are probably nervous after reading that, but the truth is that most problems aren't as big as they seem. It's a great little car, and I'm happy that I gave it a chance. Most problems are wear and tear, the rest went away pretty quickly. I think Saab is still a growing company. They need to start exploring better quality interior materials, expanding their model line up, customer base, and advertising, and figure out how to rival among companies like BMW and Mercedes. I personally am excited to see this company grow and hopefully evolve substantially. It's still a great company with a unique product to offer, plus not everyone has one like the BMW 3-series sedan.
My car is only 3 weeks / 800 miles old and the "Right Low Beam Failure" warning came on today. I got out of the car to check and both front lights seem to work just fine. After I turn off the warning on the dash it never came back on (so far).
Anyone had this experience?
The car will be a lot more grown up then the STI. But don't think that the 03 will drive anything like it. While Saabs do well in the snow, the AWD of the STI will do circles around the Saab.
The STI is a skateboard too....handles like crazy!
With all that said, I am not a big fan of the STI. They seems like very expensive econo boxes and I just can't get passed that. So, unless you are actually ralley racing, I just don't understand why anyone would spend $40k for one of these when you consider other options on the market.
If you are no longer concerned with taking corners at the highest possible speed (perhaps only slower then a Elise), then you may be ready for the Saab. I do like the look of the Aero and you do get more goodies too. The car will hussle well, BUT it is NOT a sports car.
If I had to guess on the price, I think you are prolly looking at something in the high 20's.....$28 - $30k, but that is just a guess.
That being said, the 2008 9-3 can be ordered with a sophisticated AWD (moves torque to the rear while accelerating), a very slick limited-slip rear differential, and in this guise makes 280hp and 295lb-ft. It's not going to move quite like an STI, it's making some concessions to comfort, safety, quiet, etc, but it's going to be darn quick, and good in the snow besides.
I shouldn't assume anything. I just figured it was covered since it was covered on my Audi and my friends BMW. I'm glad you got your local mechanic to do it. I do like how the ceramic brakes leave less dust.
I suppose someone could have bought a warranty that covered this or perhaps a rare few manufacturers have done this from time to time, but I was say that this is a rare thing indeed.
BMW still does--all they don't cover is tires.
We recomend every 5,000 miles for the oil change....required every 10,000...
It's up to you if you'd like to change it at 5K...I would do that because even though it's full synthetic....condensation occurs and dirt builds...
If its a leased car....its not as important....
could be $ making scheme, who knows. But I've seen other forum posts of Saab owners complaining of engine sludge too. I think I will do it at 10,000 interval until the free maint is finished and then change it 2x per year which will be 7000-8000 mi.
Anyone know if a standard oil change place can do a Saab? Anything goofy with these things? My Saab dealer, while great, is 30 minutes away and I need an apt.