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If it ran just as good on 87 octane do you really think the mfr would tell you to use 91?
1) I too have the strange intermittent noise, it sounds like a "whoo..up" and a recent passenger thought it was coming from the rear quarter panel on the drivers side. One time the noise concluded with a long grinding noise.
2) I have a constant howling/ringing sound when the car is above 25 mph (It is considerably louder after 45 mph). It starts when you put your foot on the gas pedal. It stops when you remove your foot. It is VERY annoying. It is definitely not the tires.
3) The driver seat is loose. When you leave a stop light you move backwards. When you stop, you move forwards. Like an older mechanical seat adjustment that "latches" in when you move, except it keeps "latching" while you drive. It is very unsettling.
I feel that I need to know exactly what the problem is BEFORE I go to the dealership because it's over 100 miles away and they made it very clear that there would be NO loaner vehicle (unlike Lexus). So if anyone has these problems, please let me know the cure.
If you ever figure out what the noise is, I have a friend here who also has it, and would love a lead on it.
Robert writes:
i have seen a few of these with this problem. it is more than likely in the rear differential. we have replaced a few for this issue. i even think there is a tsb related to this concern and should be common knowledge at this point at your local dealer.
Also, for all of you that have dvd navigation systems and can't figure out how to get the digital clock to work, Lincoln can't either. In the owners manual, the nav system is supposed to have a digital clock that you can set in addition to the analog one. Navtech said that the digital clock is supposed to be on the Aviator navigation system only and not the others.
...without hearing these noises myself, it is hard to give you concrete diagnosis. Just based on the info you have given me, I would say it was a pretty good guess that the noises are coming from the rear differential housing and needs a new pumpkin assembly. let me know if it works out.
Let me know, and I will let the tech know if this is the appropriate fix!
Not sure if that's good news or bad news for you, sorry.
or T-reg V6 (w/ Air Sus) Vs. Avaitor Full option?
Cannot decide between two...
Well, I'm thinking V6 though for VW's high price policy in Korea. When considering (only) performance and ride, is T-reg V6 with Air suspension better than Aviator with full option? Or Aviator is the better SUV than that?
I bought the 2003 Kitty Hawk last week and so far I am very pleased with the vehicle. Only major gripe is that the sales manager was evidently driving the vehicle prior to my purchasing it and HE SMOKED IN THE VEHICLE. They are supposed to do an ozone treatment in the vehicle. I'm amazed at the level of stupidity that the sales mgr showed in this case. I can't stand the smell. It is more noticeable when the Climate control system is running. Is there a cabin air filter that should also be replaced? I will be talking to the GM of the dealership regarding this issue. Yo spend 50,000 for a vehicle and you wouldn't expect this to be an issue.
I am looking for dark colored interior and not sure if it is worth waiting for the 2004 models for this. Only the Kitty Hawk 2003 comes in dark (black), but that does not come with a 2nd row bench.
Thanks,
- Narendran.
1. Loud road/wind noise
2. Depreciation. In our market the Aviator has been advertised at $8000-$9000 off the sticker price for the last three months, plus 60 months 0% financing. This has to hurt the resale value.
3. Very poor gas mileage, which I guess is expected for the monster V-8 under the hood.
4. Suspect build/quality issues, especially with a first year model.
5. I couldn't get past the two-tone interiors. I thought it was well done, but I did not like either color combination offered.
6. No dimming feature on the rear view mirror.
7. Poor visability from the drivers seat.
8. Side mirrors are not good
9. Priced very close to the Navigator(which is being discounted $10,000 off the sticker price)
Overall the Aviator is a very good vehicle, but it was finished 3rd on my list. I hope this vehicle stays around, but it seems the large discounts offered(even for model year-end) are a sign it is not selling up to Ford's expectations.
I will again seriously consider a Avaitor when I am ready for a new SUV in 2-3 years. I think Lincoln has hit a home run with both the Avaitor and the Navigator.
Reasons why I chose the Navigator over the X-5:
Underpowered
Uninspired 80's style dash & interior
Cheap sounding stereo
Too small, no 3rd seat
Noisy, and not a nice engine noise either
Hard steering effort
9 recalls so far
Only SUV to do a 420 degree circle braking on ice
It's very cute, but I expected a lot more from BMW, who I think, make phenomenal cars.
Whats so disappointing about BMW's problems are even the 2003 models have ben recalled. You would expect that after being on the market for so many years now they could get the quality right.
Acura TL
G35
Aviator/Explorer/Moutaineer
Thanks
Bruce
bruce@optonline.net
Steve, Host
Some media people were predicting that the Aviator was just going to steal sales from the Mountaineer, but thats not happening. The Mountaineer sales were up 8% to 5,188, a record.
Just goes to show ya the media usually gets it wrong.
Thanks again
Bruce
bruce@optonline.net
Aviator is grounded
"In 2005, Lincoln's Explorer-based Aviator will join the Blackwood in the automotive graveyard because of slow sales, according to suppliers and Ford and UAW insiders interviewed by Detroit Free Press and Automotive News The Aviator was launched last November."
So whats the deal? Neither Motor Trenc nor Car and Driver reported anything of the such in recent issues. I have generally found Automobile to be less accurate than MT or CD but they certainly had to get the information from somewhere...