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Mackabee
One dealer never heard of 800 cash rebate given to them by MFG. But why edmunds.com posted that info on their website?
try carsdirect.com.
~alpha
Options: GU, HD, HU, CF.
Dealer invoice included the options above and Destination Fee and TDA. Of course, the unmentionable holdback and reserve numbers are buried in there, too.
So, I paid $200 over dealer invoice. Total: $26,039. With the $1000 rebate: $25, 039. Add 6% sales tax, registration fee ($77), and conveyance fee ($89), and the OTD price was $26, 707.
I don't feel I was gouged. The salesman has a right to make a living and the dealer must make a profit to stay in business. I don't fight the TDA battle any more. I figure, if you win on this, they'll get you somewhere else to make up. Even with the holdback and reserve built in, I thought the $200 over invoice was reasonable for this highly rated car. And I got exactly the options I wanted, the color I wanted, and mileage under 10. All in all, a good experience.
Oh, I had sent out ten internet inquiries to local dealers and got four responses to my request for specific information and OTD prices. The value of this approach was that when the purchase was done, I felt that I had done as well as I could have.
the dealer located the car, it actually had extras like the cargo net, 1st aid kid, trunk mat and simulated birds eye maple dash
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Mackabee
I am in SE and bought a 4 cyl xle in June for about $300 below edmunds invoice price plus a $1000 rebate to me + TTL.
You did not provide alot of info about a specific car you are looking for. I know a v6 will be harder to negotiate than a 4cyl. In my area the 4 cyl were being discounted $900 more than a comparable v6. Just the supply and demand thing.
Most LE ads that I have seen are near invoice or a little below plus a $1000 rebate in my area. I have seen ads as much as $1700 below invoice (this includes the $1000 rebate)on LE in Fl.
Dealers only have so much room to lower the price, unless there is a factory to dealer incentive. The edmunds invoice price is pretty much what the dealer pays excluding some fees such as SET or TDA. So if your XLE is invoicing at 20K and there is no other factory money, the dealer cannot just decide to have a 20% off sale to move the cars, he would lose alot of money. He can try to sell at cost just to move them, but anything less is a loss to him.
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Mackabee
The only incentive apparently available in my area on an XLE is 0% financing.
Or should I consider the '04 instead?
Thanks for any info.
Now the Camry has to do the job of giving us many years of trouble free and comfort miles.
This website and discussion group info helped immensely.
Gerry,
My name is xxxxxxxxx and I am writing to express my extreme displeasure with the way I was treated by you per a phone conversation with Laura(a customer relations rep at Toyota corporate). I own a 1997 Camry. In 2001 my IAC valve went out and Toyota refused to fix it under warranty as my car was 1 month out of warranty. 13 months later the same part went out again and I brought my car to your dealership to be fixed. Toyota covered the replacement this time. From talking with the service writer and mechanic, they told me the original IAC valave had issues but the redesign was good and they had never seen the redesigned part go out like mine did. Well here it is 13 months later and my third IAC valve went out. I brought it to your dealership to be fixed and also called Toyota Corp to cover the repair. Per Laura you stated you had already replaced my IAC valve twice at no cost to me. This was a complete LIE as I already stated I had to pay for the first one myself and it was replaced in San Diego at Kearney Mesa Toyota. You also stated per Laura that the mechanic did not know what he was talking about and that the IAC valve going out was common. Who is lying to the customer, you or your employees???
I just got a new job paying well into 6 figures. Due to this I can finally buy a Mini-van. I was seriously going to buy a Sienna, but after all the lies from your dealership as well as from Toyota corp, my mind is made up and I will buy an Odyssey. I have a 1991 Acura Integra. I have spent twice as much on fixing my 1997 Camry than I have my 1991 Integra. There definitely seems to be a problem. The only thing Toyota has helped me on is making my decision on which Mini-van to buy.
I do not know how Toyota stays in business this way. I thought the customer is always 'right' not a liar. I definitely will not be doing business with Toyota any longer and will definitely steer all my acquaintances away from Toyota and your dealership. In addition, this email will be posted on various websites such as Edmunds.com trying to tell people the truth about Toyota.
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Mackabee
I agree with Mac. On this forum we never get to hear "the other side of the story". We do not mean to belittle you but why do you think Toyota should pay for repairs after the warranty expires?
Toyotas are one of the very best vehicles made but that does not mean that everything on them is made by using the absolute best-made parts. The cost would be prohibitive and they would not sell them in this competitive world we live in. Toyota has to compete with prices that are close to the competition.
Aggie, have you called Toyota Customer Assistance Center in Torrance California? They will resolve the problem for you. Their phone number is 1-800-331-4331. Explain in detail what your complaint is. They will contact the dealer to resolve the problem or they may suggest you take the car to a different dealer to get the problem resolved, but they will resolve the problem. Dealers don't like getting the assistance center getting involved in their affairs.
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Mackabee
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Mackabee
But I got a wired question: when the dealer checked my credit score, it's only 687. However, it was 772 from my TransUnion credit report two weeks ago. So any tricks with the dealer's score?
MTBEs are fuel additives that are supposed to decrease air pollution, but it turns out that they increase water pollution when they leak from the underground tanks. Oops. The EPA (or probably CARB in this case) has their hearts in the right place, but not always their brains :-)
-Andrew L
Toyota Access Pricing court decision
Please let others know on the Toyota boards if they are Canadian and are looking to purchase various Toyota models.
I was just offered a 03 Le auto with ABS and the upgraded JBL audio (retail of $21132) for $17600. So, did your camry that you paid $17500 come with ABS?
Thanks,
J
You said :
Prices I paid for an LE Automatic w ABS Brakes, upgraded Radio + mats in Mass area $17,599 + 5% tax + $95 processing fee + tag/title + emissions check ($120 in all). MSRP was $21,134, invoice $19,067, manufacturer $1000 off + dealer $468 (max dealer discount was $654, but off higher price)
I am in Boston. These days, the best quote I got is at $17699. Could you please tell me which dealer you got your car? I may go there for a 2003 Camry LE. Thanks in advance.
I just purchased a Camry LE (2.4L 4cyl 4A) with ABS.
Price: 18200-1000(rebate)=17200, with 3.7% APR.
I showed the salesperson one post which has the price $16,995, and was told they could do that one week ago but not now. And they offered $17,200 with 3.7%. This website and your posts helps a lot.
Regards
F
I just purchased a Camry LE (2.4L 4cyl 4A) with ABS.
Price: 18200-1000(rebate)=17200, with 3.7% APR.
I showed the salesperson one post which has the price $16,995, and was told they could do that one week ago but not now. And they offered $17,200 with 3.7%. This website and your posts helps a lot.
Does your Camry have JBL? And which dealer did you get it from in NJ? Maybe I will go there for one.
Thanks
What is JBL? The Camry I bought is a standard LE with ABS option.
The dealer is DCH Brunswick Toyota.
Good luck!
aweifeifei
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Mackabee
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2003 Camry SE(2.4L 4cyl) auto/sunroof/16" alum wheels/4 wheel ABS/spoiler/mats
Price: 18483(after $1000 rebate) + tax + license + $45 doc fee + $5 misc fee. Financed at 4.39% APR
Bought it before I discover this msg board. After watching all posts I think I should've solicit more internet dealer quotes. Maybe I could get lower.
Mackabee:in Aug you said both rebate & low rate fi can be offered simultaneously. Is it still true now in mid Sept? I was told they can't right here, and 2.9% can only be up to 36 month loan.
Acton Toyota thru actontoyota.com
the average msrp is indeed around $23,000 after TDA
Can you tell me the name of dealership or link? After researching Camry for a month, most manual tranny Camry are built in Japan. I think it must be better than US built one.
http://www.sloaneautos.com/frameset2.asp?MAIN=new_vehicle_search
do a search on toyota camry se
Can you please provide us with more information on the Camry 04 XLE that you purchased on September 11. Is Edmunds really reputabile, I found their prices to be crazy low. We are looking to get an 04 SE V6 Camry loaded. Would you say Edmunds TMV pricing is on the money or are their prices off? When I looked into with Edmunds TMV pricing we did well, the pricing we are getting is below Edmunds TMV by a few hundred dollars. Edmunds TMV is about 600.00 less than our best price found. What's your feeling?
Thanks Alot.
Can anyone suggest what is considerd a good price on a 2003 Camry XLE with Premium Package? Looking at the 4cyl and 6cyl models. I would most likely buy the car in CT or NJ.
Thanks in advance for any advice,
L3
MSRP: $21,134 Invoice: $19,133.
My price:$17,983 (including $1000 cash rebate). Plus 6% CT tax, $76 registration / title, and $175 dealer conveyance fee. Grand total "out the door" was $19,313. I was quoted a price of $17,500 from a dealer in the Boston area (2 hours away), but the extra costs of unpaid time off work, gas, tolls, handling the registration myself with state of CT DMV all but wiped out the extra savings. I estimate that my dealer made a profit of about $540 (or about 3%, not including the obvious extra profit of the dealer conveyance fees) which is less than the 5% dealers normally try to make. I shopped on the internet and via phone follow ups... which I felt saved me tons of BS. Once they knew I was seriously shopping and knew the numbers, it cut down on virtually all the sales hype. The worst price I was quoted was $19,079 (versus the low of $17,500)... quite a difference! Hope this helps.
(with no accessories am i missing some obvious needs? or getting a real barebones car?)
buying gift my elderly father. Went and test drove today.
Should I email all local dealers for best price?
what are others in Seattle area buying for compared to TMV price? Any suggestions on other
online resources? what happens if i wait past end of Sept? lots of questions...hahah...thanks for any answers. Dan
I can't figure out how Edmunds could have an accurate TMV on car models that have just come on the market, or, in some cases, where the cars haven't even arrived at the dealerships yet.