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  • stolguystolguy Member Posts: 12
    Anyone out there with a shop manual: what is the torque on the
    rear wheel bearing retaining nut? I decided to check one side out
    at 20,000mi. The factory uses a clear, nearly colorless grease.
    It was just beginning to dry a bit at the edges and I figure it would have
    been OK to about 40-50K. The bearing is a little different than
    conventional being a double ball (fairly hefty) using no adjustment
    by virtue of the premeasured cone spacing.
    -03SX
  • rod1977rod1977 Member Posts: 1
    What do you think is a fair price to pay for a new 05 Aerio SX?
  • csandstecsandste Member Posts: 1,866
    Today's Automotive News reported that the SX is due to be axed at the end of next year. Although the SX was on my short list, this plus the extremely low sales for this year should give you a very good price before you bite. I haven't checked Edmunds TMV prices but I'd bet they'd be on the high side of what you should pay.

    Why the SX is axed while the sedan sticks around is a mystery. The story discussed Suzuki's reluctance to market the car v. the Daewoos.
  • doohickiedoohickie Member Posts: 949
    A mystery? It seemed pretty clear to me: They say in the little bit of the article I can view without a subscription that they are starting a new sport wagon model. The Aerio SX is a sport wagon. Why have two direct competitors in the same showroom? I like the utility of the car, but the syling of the Aerio SX is best described as "quirky". It's proportions do not conform to the typical sport wagon (Mazda3 5 door, Kia Spectra5, etc.) Perhaps they are reskinning it with better proportions, or modding the Forenza Wagon into more of a sport package. The Forenza Wagon is nice enough, but nearly identical in basic design layout to my 1995 Escort Wagon- hardly a step forward. I could see where they might restyle it with more of the Reno styling cues, maybe a more rounded hatch area with a nice spoiler, pretty graphics, and call it a sport wagon. This, of course, only works if they put a more sustantial engine in it. The 2.0L Holden is almost acceptable in the Reno, but not enough for the slightly larger Forenza Wagon.
  • derick1derick1 Member Posts: 2
    i got a brand new SX AWD fully loaded for $15,100 before tax and licencing. it helps though if you want a good deal, go toward the end of the month late at night... they get desperate to make monthly quotas and they'll bargin. also what i did is i had the money, and we told them, if u can get it down to 15K, we'll buy it tonight... we kept the dealership open like a half hour late, but they wanted to sell that car
  • derick1derick1 Member Posts: 2
    I like the honey comb grill, but it would look so much cooler with some chrome/bling... lol... anyone know?!
  • nomonomo Member Posts: 3
    I just discovered a curious problem with one of the fog lamps on my new Aerio SX. There is a tiny symmetrical hole with a kind of bubbling around it.. I immediately thought a rock had hit it, but the more I think about it, a rock wouldn't leave such an unusual signature; there would be crack, no? Has anyone out there had a similar problem?
  • doohickiedoohickie Member Posts: 949
    Hard to tell from your description. Are you sure it's not a molded feature? Maybe a drain hole?
  • nomonomo Member Posts: 3
    I'm sure it's not a drain hole; the other light doesn't have it, and it wasn't there a week ago. I'm wondering if Suzuki will cover it under warranty. I doubt it. Thanks for the reply.
  • doohickiedoohickie Member Posts: 949
    Try the tack that it could not live up to normal conditions and therefore should be under warranty.

    BTW, the local Suzuki dealer just sold (or traded to another dealer) the last 05 Aerio they had. Don't know if any more 05s are coming, so perhaps it is an 06 or maybe the Reno. I can't buy for at least another month, so the 06s should be here by then anyway.
  • aeriohawaii1aeriohawaii1 Member Posts: 39
    They are going for $14,295 in Hawaii
  • carthellcarthell Member Posts: 130
    The service manual lists no such nut. The closest component that comes close to the function you described is the spindle nut: 126.5 lb-ft

    After the spindle nut is off, many of the other wheel components that don't have to be screwed off or disconnected have to be pulled off (disassembly), or pushed on (re-assembly), using special tools and a hydraulic press.
  • stolguystolguy Member Posts: 12
    Thanks, been a while since I posted that so I had to go back and read my original query.
    The torque range you quote sounds reasonable, however the remaining procedure sounds
    more like a front spindle description. The back brakes can be accessed by only removing
    the drum, leaving the bearing in place. -But if you want to remove the bearing for
    insp/grease you will have to punch the little dimple in the nut back to round and
    spin it off with an impact wrench. Observing the original location on the nut, approximately
    100 ft/lbs will be adequate for replacement. Those are not "permanently" lubed bearings
    like those (supposedly) on the front wheels. I'm a fixer, not a washer and waxer.
  • carthellcarthell Member Posts: 130
    The Aerio manual is like most manuals, except for the occasional phrase that seems to have been translated poorly/written badly. I rechecked the manual, and they're definitely calling the item a "spindle nut" on the 2wd vehicles. A number of illustrations & labels is included with the description.

    It looks like I read too many pages ahead, the hydraulic press & such comes into play with a different bearing behind the drum brake on the 4wd models, I believe.

    I'm sleepy. Time for bed.
  • stolguystolguy Member Posts: 12
    -Now I'm definitely glad I didn't go for the AWD.
    Just an extra 100 lbs to drag around with little benefit
    and poorer gas mileage. Like a yuppie buying a camera
    with "more features" or phones for which the original
    function has been forgotten.
  • village_idiotvillage_idiot Member Posts: 1
    I don't own an Aerio, but my GF does. Her AWD 2003 mod. is a blast to drive... mainly, I think, to the AWD feature. It may weigh more, but the center of gravity is lowered and shifted to the rear compared to the FWD model. She gets (when I drive it) an overall average of 28mpg.(fill-up to fill-up) w/automatic Trans. in overdrive and the A/C and Cruise-control on.
    I don't normally drive aggressively -- cruise at 60mph max., and mild acceleration (auto-shifting approx.3krpm). However, traffic situations may require driving "out of the envelope" from time to time, and it's good to have the AWD's lateral-responsiveness and acceleration when needed.
    :)
  • jimbo_fettjimbo_fett Member Posts: 1
    There's a section of the front bumper on Aerio SXs (and maybe others) on the driver side at the bottom that has fallen off my car. The first time was at home so I just put it back on (it literally snaps into place) but the second time was on the road so it subsequently got run over and left behind. It's about a foot wide and 3-4 inches tall and deep.

    When I called the dealer to request a replacement they knew EXACTLY what part I was talking about (as if they've dealt with this particular obscure little part before). In fact, there was a woman there ordering the exact same part the day I was ordering it.

    This got me to thinking... is this happening to a LOT of people? If so, shouldn't this be a recall to get replaced? I don't like the idea of paying to replace a part that wasn't designed very well. Who ever heard of a bumper having a snap-on piece? Especially a piece likely to get loosened should one scrape a curb or parking lot divider while parking?

    If this is happening to a lot of Aerio owners I'd like to figure out how to pursue getting Suzuki to recall/replace the part.

    I'd appreciate feedback.
  • mac123mac123 Member Posts: 1
    Yes! This has happend to me as well, and i saw while driving around, other aerio's with the same problem... This looks horrible,, Did you get a new piece for it? I need help finding one also. Mine was lost somewhere on the highway! So do you have any info on where to find the part?
  • gopher3gopher3 Member Posts: 1
    We were out today looking at the 2006 Aerio SX and were both very impressed. We are intending to tow it behind our motor home so our going to contact Remco to see if they have a pump or axle disconnect for that car. We are just wondering if any of you have had any major problems with the Aerio other than parts of the bumper falling off and faulty fog lights. We are in Canada but I am sure everything is much the same in the USA regarding these cars. Any information would be greatly appreciated. We haven't bought it yet!!
  • carthellcarthell Member Posts: 130
    Only one that I recall that are major, all within 36030 miles (as of today) for my '03 Aerio SX: rotor warp, fixed twice ($200 USD per dealer visit). I've experienced suspension rattle (fixed by tightening up bolts during my scheduled maintenance runs to the dealer). The rattling may be less of an issue for you. I just happen to live in an urban jurisdiction that has one of the roughest road systems in my state.
  • slick10slick10 Member Posts: 3
    I JUST PURCHASED A 2006 SUZUKI AERIO SX WITH THE PREMIUM PACKAGE.
    I CANNOT FIND THE SUBWOOFER THAT I AM SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO ADJUST. WHERE SHOULD I LOOK??
    MY VEHICLE WAS DELIVERED WITHOUT A CHROME TAIL PIPE TIP THAT IS SHOWN IN EVERY PHOTO FROM SUZUKI THAT SHOWS THE REAR END OF THE SX FOR 2006.
    ON PAGE 14-3 OF MY OWNERS MANUAL IT HAS A LIST OF LIGHTBULBS USED ON THIS VEHICLE. ONLY 5 LIGHTBULBS ARE LISTED....IT SHOWS 2 DIFFERENT RATINGS FOR FOGLIGHTS..TYPE A AND TYPE B...HOW CAN I TELL WHICH ONES THIS VEHICLE HAS?
    MY VEHICLE WAS SUPPLIED WITHOUT ANY BRACKET OR HARDWARE TO INSTALL A FRONT LICENSE PLATE...IS THIS NORMAL.
    MY DEALER JUST DOUBLE TALKS EVERY TIME AN ISSUE ARISES AND THE SUZUKI CUSTOMER ASSISTANCE ISN`T A WHOLE LOT BETTER. ALSO: WHEN I FLIP UP MY REAR SEAT CUSHIONS TO DROP THE BACK OF THE BACK SEAT DOWN, I NOTICED A VERY SHORT STRAP WITH A BUCKLE ON THE END TUCKED ON THE BOTTOM OF THE SEAT CUSHION.
    I SEARCHED MY MANUAL BUT MUST HAVE MISSED THAT PAGE. WHAT IS THE STRAP FOR?

    THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR ANY INPUT. :confuse:
    SLICK10 IN PENNSYLVANIA
  • carthellcarthell Member Posts: 130
    License: the car manufacturer never supplies the license bracket & hardware, just dimples in the front & rear of the car for installation. Note that virtually all car brackets are either dealer advertisements, or aftermarket products.

    The strap: The strap holds the bottom of the flipped-over rear seat to the back of the flipped-down seat back There's a screw ringed by a plastic part on the flipped-down seat back directly in line of the strap's anchor. Keeps the re-positioned seat from doing any unexpected movement during travel, although I've never experienced any real trouble during the times I've "forgotten" to use the strap.

    The subwoofer: pop in your favorite CD, pump up the bass, change the balance. After locating the speakers, get some tools to make your adjustments.

    Sorry, I don't have an answer for your other questions.

    -d
  • aeriohawaii1aeriohawaii1 Member Posts: 39
    The subwoofer that you are looking for is Underneath your drivers' seat. There Used to be a sliding drawer underneath the passengar seat, but they discountinued it in 2004, to make room for the passengar seat air bad seat cushion sensors. It would be Nice to have that drawer for storage since there is a lack of a center console to store items or use as an arm rest.
  • carthellcarthell Member Posts: 130
    Didn't know that Suzuki added an underseat subwoofer under the passenger seat.

    I pulled a 2005 accessories brochure for the Aerio while I was at the dealer the other day. The company is selling a screw-in center armrest/storage bin for the car, part 99000-990YC-703 if you're interested.
  • aeriohawaii1aeriohawaii1 Member Posts: 39
    Thanx,
    for the information.
    I will check on that.
    I did see a listing for an Armrest for the 2004 model,
    but they redesigned the interior for 2005, changing from Digital Guage to Normal Analog Gauges
    and they also improved and enlarge the Center Console area.
    SO the armrest from a 2004 will not fit on a 2005,
    but I will check on that.
    P.S. The subwoofer is underneath the Driver's Seat
  • asandbagasandbag Member Posts: 3
    1. Woofer should be under one of the seats, usually the drivers. At least it is on the XL7.
    2. Have the dealer warranty the missing chrome tailpipe end. You should get another one installed for free.
    3. Fog lights not sure. I believe there is only one type and the owners manual is in error listing 2.
    4. Using the license plate as a template, drill 2 small holes in the plastic bumper and mount the plate with some large head, course thread pitch wood screws. Try to milk your dealer for a set. They should have some.
    5. The teather behind the seat is for Child seats that attach to that strap.
    If you have problems with the Dealer warranting the parts call Suzuki in Calif and ask for Auto Customer service.
    They will make sure you are taken care of.
    :D
  • asandbagasandbag Member Posts: 3
    Go to your local dealer and have them warranty one for you, or call American Suzuki customer service and they will send you a new one. This is a common problem. :)
  • heirmullerheirmuller Member Posts: 6
    Anyone wishing to switch to snow tires for the winter, you can go down a rim size to 14inch and put on a 185-65-14 tire which is the same height but 10 mm narrower which will cut down to the snow better. This size will give you a much better selection at a much better price. I have an 02 SX and live in Kingston Ontario.
  • blue2004sxblue2004sx Member Posts: 18
    exactly what i put in my 04 SX. I live near Barrie, ON and drive to Toronto everyday. Dunlop Graspic1, 185/65R14.got the car in late September05. any idea as to the source of a clunking sound that seems to be coming from the front of the car??
  • blue2004sxblue2004sx Member Posts: 18
    does anybody out there do their oil changes on the Aerio? i have a 2004 SX and the oil filter is partially blocked by a plastic trim and is not readily accessible. any ideas would be appreciated
  • blue2004sxblue2004sx Member Posts: 18
    would you mind pointing me in the direction of that TSB? i have clunking noises too. thanks....
  • spmrebelspmrebel Member Posts: 130
    Blue2004sx,

    There is a small plastic covering that you have to remove. I am going from memory but I think there are 2 10mm bolts you have to remove and then the covering should drop right off. It should not take anymore than a couple of minutes to remove the access cover. The oil filter is really easy to access after the cover is removed.

    Happy motoring
  • heirmullerheirmuller Member Posts: 6
    blue2004sx Hi, do you have an Aerio or an Aveo? I have both a 2004 Aveo and a 2002 Aerio. I saw you were on the Aveo board also. I put the Canadian Tire snows on the Aerio as that is the family car that the wife drives. We traded in a mini van when the gas prices went up and the Aerio was a good compromise with more rear space than the Aveo that I use just as a work commuter.
  • blue2004sxblue2004sx Member Posts: 18
    hello heirmuller, it is the 2004 Aerio i have. im new to this thing so i must have inadvertly gone to the Aveo board you mentioned. I put Dunlop Graspic1 P185/65R14 a week ago and noticed a smoother ride since. the original Yokohamas Avid T4 195/55R15 that came with the car felt a little harsh. I have put 9000 kms on it already since getting the car late September of this year. I still have the 1997 Suzuki Esteem that I drove for 6 years with no problems except regular maintenance. it now has 300,000 kms on it.
  • blue2004sxblue2004sx Member Posts: 18
    thanks spmrebel. i will try that in the spring as it is now turning too cold to do it on the driveway.
  • blue2004sxblue2004sx Member Posts: 18
    i like that Canadian flag next to your name. how do i get one? i have a 2004 Aerio SX by the way.
  • heirmullerheirmuller Member Posts: 6
    yes the Yokohamas are a rough ride in that size 55r15. The original Yokohamas that were on my 1990 Integra were juck in the snow like these ones that clough up and would not release wet snow. Anything is better!
  • spmrebelspmrebel Member Posts: 130
    Your very welcome. I use be an owner of a 2003 Aerio SX and I did all my oil changes (never took to a dealer). Its a very easy to work on and was a great car.

    Best of luck and happy motoring.
  • csandstecsandste Member Posts: 1,866
    "i like that Canadian flag next to your name. how do i get one?"

    Change your preferences under Forum Tools.
  • blue2004sxblue2004sx Member Posts: 18
    I have an 1997 Suzuki Esteem with 300,000 kms on it. did all my oil changes on that one too and never saw the dealer after I took it home. very reliable can that only required routine maintenance. my daughter drives it now that we have the 2004 Aerio. What did you replace your Aerio with and why, if you don't mind my asking?
  • blue2004sxblue2004sx Member Posts: 18
    Thanks for that tip...
  • spmrebelspmrebel Member Posts: 130
    Hi Blue2004sx,

    I had bought a 2005 Hyundai Elantra GT in January of this year and was driving both cars. So I decided I didn't need both cars so I sold the Aerio SX in June. It was just I wanted to lower my insurance a little and not have 2 car payments.

    Happy motoring.
  • blue2004sxblue2004sx Member Posts: 18
    thanks for the feedback spmrebel.
  • davidd5davidd5 Member Posts: 79
    Holy crap,blueSX2004,you went back a way to find that post. The TSB was for 02-03 aerios and was VIN specific. Can't find it right now,but will look at work if I remember,
  • davidd5davidd5 Member Posts: 79
    To be honest,I have no idea how I got the flag. Maybe from my profile and edmonds adds it.
  • sukisxsukisx Member Posts: 1
    heeey.... they made me pay 30 bucks for that... i know its just 30... but if i could have gotten it for free then that would have been way better huh!
  • blue2004sxblue2004sx Member Posts: 18
    Hello davidd5.. csandste showed me how to get the flag, so i put ir on.. you can change it on your profiles.
  • blue2004sxblue2004sx Member Posts: 18
    hello again davidd5. don't worry about it then as i have a 2004 AerioSX.
  • joseofferrall1joseofferrall1 Member Posts: 4
    Has anyone tried putting an intake on a 04-05 Aerio sedan or SX. I tried it on both but the check engine light comes on. The code reader says System too lean. any suggestions on what i can do to keep the intake on it without the check engine light? I Have the 05 SX
  • stolguystolguy Member Posts: 12
    If you are trying to put one of those zippy chrome tubes with the filter on the end...
    Why? The original filter has way more than the required capacity and can be
    bought from the dealer for a measly $15.00 However, I DO suggest putting a
    disc of chicken wire (1/4" squares) at the air inlet to keep mice from trying to
    burrow in to the filter. -happened to me.
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