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Everyone should know you don't do things like text while driving, camp in the left lane, drive without lights in dim light etc. etc. But how many posts here have been directed at those and other rules that "everyone should know"?
For there isn't anything on a road like that requiring sudden stops or steering changes.
Unfortunately, we have drivers here in the US that are so poor that they actually *CAN'T* handle driving in a straight line at a steady speed... even in *GOOD* weather.
Case in point: http://youtu.be/kzlg3oQMze4
Rainy drive tonight, several cars with no lights or parking lights (after legal sunset but not the civil twilight some cling to :shades: ), lots of no signals, actually spotted no phone yappers, no egregious crosswalk crowders.
See that here too. These are incredibly, in priority order, lazy and dumb and irresponsible and inconsiderate drivers
No real issues other than random slowpokes or bad lane changes, but while on foot saw a woman yell "Excuse me, I'm walking, I'm walking!" at a Solara that had a close call with her in a crosswalk. Doesn't seem to be an enforcement priority.
It does seem hard to believe that the LEO who was on the scene didn't issue a ticket to the Solara driver who almost hit the woman.
There was a LEO on the scene, right?
I'd like to see stopping for green lights for no reason at all be an enforcement priority, too. Also I'd like to see tickets issued to people who pass on the right... when there's no lane there. I observed both of those behaviors today. Oh wait... there was no LEO around to observe those acts. Guess we need to put more LEOs on the streets... hmmm, more money needed there, methinks. You go first, I know others will also contribute.
But anyway, your whole argument about LEOs being in the wrong place because of chasing revenue is irrelevant to this discussion. Meaning it's a huge red herring.
What discussion? I posted about my daily road experience, someone else chimed in with a weird devils advocate/red herring based complaint as per usual. Looks like I need to install a filter. When I mention my experience, I determine what is relevant. Local LEOs have iffy priorities, and too many local drivers, well, nothing more need be said.
I came across a true LLC a few days ago coming out of Anchorage. He was driving a late-model GMC truck pulling a 20' or so double-axle covered trailer. This person was going 65 on the button, with no need to be in the left lane at all, but happy as a clam to be there. I decided to perform an experiment on him, so I pulled in front, then let off the accelerator, wondering at what speed he would decide to switch lanes and go around (traffic was relatively light, but there were a few vehicles stacked up behind him). I was down to about 45 by the time all the other vehicles went around us, yet he just stayed where he was in the left lane, tooling along behind me.
Now THAT is an LLC! I just laughed, set the cruise back at 70, and slowly pulled away (he resumed his previous 65 mph speed, always in the left lane).
Passing on the right... on a two lane road? That's not illegal if the vehicle being passed is stopped to turn left and the passing vehicle does not have to leave the roadway (e.g., paved surface of the road) to do so.
I assume the speed limit was 65? So slowing down to 45 made a new LLC'er. Did that prove anything?
If you were able to easily pass the person, they didn't speed up to keep you from pulling back into your lane apparently, which is the left lane, were they the LLC in the end or was the car going 45 in the left lane the LLC?
. Why not merrily go on your way, in the left lane, rather than the right if you please, and have a good day?
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I like doing the opposite - when a dope speeds up while I am passing, I will keep speeding up to see how far they will take it.
results were as follows:
- 99.4% of MLCs *will pass* on the left, or rarely on the right, when they find themselves out-MLC'd. half the time they are female, half the time male.
- 99.997% of when an LLC is out-LLC'd, he will *slow down arbitrarily to any speed whatsoever* in order to stay in the left lane rather than moving right. These most-typical LLCs will only move right just before they take an exit. another observation: LLCs always seem to be male!
This was a 30 mph road. What's the harm of waiting for the turning car to turn, vs. trying to squeeze by on the constricted shoulder of the road?
That matches my experience.
saying you must have this many dots between you and the car in front, yeah like people read signs between using their cell phone, ipod etc. what will they think of next.. maybe well be like the europeans with the tone beeping when you get too close or the car automatically keeping distance....the hits just keep on comin...lol
Not here. Women LLCers have a slight majority on the roads here.
I figure it's probably something to do with the fact that LLCing is a passive-aggressive sort of behavior.
I've kept people in sight, ones running at the speed limit in the left lane, several time while going north out of my town. About 6 miles up the road is a cross road that leads to a small town and out into the country with several homes, and this is where they make their turn. After camping in the left lane for 5 or more miles.
Or, he was of the opinion that if he was going the speed limit, it made no matter which lane, left or right, he drove in. And even if there was traffic and he was impeading 'speeders' in the left lane, he did not need to move right. I think he has left about a year ago, but there was a poster in here (don't remember his nam) that defended his right to do this to the limit. Whick led to long series of postings with various people 'again' him, but never shaking his opinion.
Really, I was just curious to see whether the driver would change lanes to pass me when I was going extraordinarily slow, given that they had no particular reason to be in the left lane at all with the light traffic and no traffic going slower (or even the same speed as) than this driver. It was a psychological experiment.
The end result was that I found this driver was truly a left lane camper. No rhyme, no reason, just a person who wanted to drive in the left lane. Period. I had my laugh out of it and continued on my way.
I can't speak for Minnesota, but in the states where I have resided, the law states that passing on the right is acceptable if there is sufficient space to safely pass without leaving the surface of the roadway. Your having a small car could allow this to be the case, even with a snow-narrowed roadway.
I know how you feel, though, as I've been passed both safely and unsafely on the right before, too. I tend to drive in a manner that enables other drivers to get around me when I'd otherwise hold them up (such as while slowing to make a turn, hauling a heavy load, etc), yet sometimes it just isn't safe to get other drivers around me even though I don't want to hold them up. Sometimes they wait and sometimes they don't, but they're the ones who have to make that choice.
And I am not about to crowd the centerline of the road (unsafely) just to give Mr. CantWait a little extra room to pass on the right with his truck. The driving lane is narrow enough as it is. 99.9% of drivers on this road realize that and wait patiently, safely, and considerately for left-turners.
Many of the roads I drove in Oregon as a youth, as well as those in Pennsylvania where we visit from time to time, are not safe to pass on the right, as you're lucky if you even have enough room to paint a fog line! And, yet, people would still pass on the right from time to time (illegally).
Speaking of texting - heading to work early this morning, around 0530. On a straight road, very few cars, but notice a few going around something very slow. I caught up and went by, it was a Highlander, driver had a phone up almost to their face, not talking, but apparently reading it. Very good, especially with the propensity of local joggers/dog walkers to go out at night in a black cap/black top/black pants/black shoes/etc.
WTF!
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Just now a guy was jogging down the street in the other direction pushing a snowblower. Trying to stay warm I guess.
Was also out driving, including shopping areas. Don't recall seeing a single inconsiderate. Maybe the cold weather and snow had something to do with it.
On the football game. Got to be careful in how to reference this game on Feb 3. It is the "big game". Only those licensed by the football league can mention or use their trademarked and/or copyrighted name.
Snow here each of the last two evenings and promised again for tonight... no problem for me as I'll be planted in front of my TV watching the Sup... uh, the Big Game. To be honest, I'll mostly be watching the commercials. I already know Coach Harbaugh is going to win.
Even with the snow the last couple of nights drivers were pretty well behaved. Just a few incidences of failure to signal lane changes, failure to brush snow off windows. I observed far more cases of considerate driving than inconsiderate driving... nice to see and very smart given the slippery roads.
Bad wreck around here last night, but haven't heard the details or if it was related to the snow and ice on the roads. Injuries, not fatal. We only get about one bad one a year.
(Below is a rare glimpse of the evilness that is 'squirrel'.)
Had a Lexus ES in front of me, 5-10 under, weaving all over the road, couldn't see the driver's head. After a mile or so of barely moving along (say 20-22 in a 30), it turned - at about 4mph, and the fintail's loud horn honked for some reason. Nothing else obnoxious today other than the usual slowpokes.
They are quick little bastards; I still missed it! :P
I've never hit a squirrel. But, when I was a teenager, out in the old Tempo, I was sitting in traffic waiting for a drawbridge to close. I hear a big thump on the passenger rear door, I look over, and a large shepherd type dog is running away from the car - apparently he ran into it. Also when I was younger, either in the Tempo or my mom's 93 Taurus, a seagull flew into the windshield, pretty good thunk, but it flew away.
There has been a dearth of obvious phone yappers in my line of sight lately, but did see one this morning - young woman in a fresh looking Audi A7, proving again that money and ability are often inversely related. Should be a 10x fine over actual people.
I'm glad the seats in that truck are vinyl! :P