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give your opinion why ford F series trucks are the #1 vehicle sold in the world.



  • tbundertbunder Posts: 580
    i sense a little jealousy, eh???? nevermind, just cuz our commander in chief says we aren't in a recession, and all of the experts say the same thing, this must mean that we are? just cuz the manufacturing sector is down doesn't mean that we are in a national recession. it just means that part is down, ie. the demand rate isn't there right now. if we were in a recession, people wouldn't be buying cars and trucks and houses left and right. my sister works for john deere, and they are producing lots of product here in iowa. the usa isn't the only customers.

    scorpio- simpson was just rated #1 in the midwest. check out us news and world report. im sorry you had to go to community tech, but dont insult others with your dime store education.

    scorpio- another little thingy (SOME ADVICE). you're young- if i were you, id stop buying piddly little things (like expensive trucks), and invest 20 grand in some type of investment. by the time you were 60, with a growth rate of at least 10% (which is not hard to achieve) you could have nearly $1,000,000 to retire with. not counting your 401k if you have one. ever ponder the thought of compound interest? remember, that 10% is very small. most do lots better. the key is to hold on for the long run. dont sell like a moron like so many did 9-12. ill still be around when you turn 60. you can thank me then.
  • Hey scorpio--->There will always be industries on the rise and fall. Companies will always be hiring and firing. But all the indicators now show that everybody tucked their head (and wallet) in good and tight after the 9/11 event. But now things are getting back on their feet, after the general public realized that their fear of being a good consumer was unfounded.

    So your original comment about Ford having to lay off people to get back to basics is based on what? You do realise that Toyota doesn't even employe more than 30,000 people in America.

    Even though you tout that Toyota manufactures in USA, don't you know where the profits are going? The name brand is still Toyota, which is not owned by Americans. And guess who is planning on building trucks parts in mexico? Toyota! Future Tacoma beds will be made in Mexico.
  • sc0rpi0sc0rpi0 Posts: 897
    I'm not even gonna answer any of that. First of all, it's all offtopic, and second...well, you wouldn't understand.
  • sc0rpi0sc0rpi0 Posts: 897
    Sure, companies hire and fire people. But not on the scale it's been done lately. "Dell has announced layoffs of 5,000 of its workforce in Austin, TX". Do those headlines ring a bell? That's bulk firing right there. All industries are so close to each other nowdays, if one falls, others will feel the impact and feel it good.

    We are talking about Ford here, btw. You are changing it to Toyota and Toyotas' faults. Maybe Toyota does not employ 30K people....great. Ford is employing 30K less now, and Toyota employees keep on working (hopefully). They are taking home a paycheck and whatever else benefits.
    What about Mexico? Ford's been building parts in Mexico for a while now, nobody in US seems to be complaining. If Toyota can build parts for cheaper and lower prices, great. I'm not going to be complaining.
  • tbundertbunder Posts: 580
    nice dodge. looks like you may have learned a little bit, like what compound interest is? eh? its on your side bud. oh yeah, what wouldn't i understand? you're the one who won't reply to the post. how do those toenails taste?
  • sc0rpi0sc0rpi0 Posts: 897
    Why are you trying real hard to get me into this discussion? I have no desire to try and talk to you about what education I have and how to manage my money. I don't know how the toenails taste, thank you very much, and have no plans to find out. Are you speaking from personal experience? It seems that you are feeling a little....pissed off? For all the things you've said that turned out to be complete nonsense (that you have defended so vigirously...does "Who taught you physics?!?" ring a bell, just to name one?), you are trying to find a person who you can blabber about how much money you made during the economic recession, how nice your new Harley is, how great a nightschool diploma in CJ from Simpson is, etc. Get a dog for that.
  • tbundertbunder Posts: 580
    just like i thought, you don want to talk. you're the one who claimed we were in a recession, (thus starting this convo), so i am just stating reasons why i think we are not. do yourself a favor, and start some investments. it's not hard. your toyota is definitely not an investment. a hog otoh, definitely is.
  • Ford trucks are the number one selling truck for 25 years, isn't it? That is going back a few years.

    I know some people don't care about sales volume, stating it has nothing to do with how great a vehicle is. These people tend to drive vehicles that aren't #1.

    Let us not forget that you should not buy a vehicle because it is the best selling. You should buy the vehicle that fits your needs, wants, budget, and expectations. Being the best selling vehicle is not the cause of being the best vehicle. The best selling statistics is the effect of being the best vehicle.

    Let's see, I have a friend with a 1969 F100 Ranger that can still tow very well. My father has a 1990 F150 XLT Lariat, that is in pristine condition. He's looking at a 2002 F150, but just doesn't want to trade in a truck that runs so good. I goto Oklahoma often to visit my Girlfriends family. Her father drives a 2001 F150 with a V10, and her grandfather owns 3 Fords on his Ranch in Ada. Roughly a 1981, 88, and a 92. My girlfriend's uncle drives a 2001 F-250 diesel crew cab 4x4. We loaded up the gooseneck trailer one weekend, had over 3 cords of wood loaded in the bed and trailer, plus about 100-150 bags of feed. Just picture a longbed 4x4 F-250, with a 30 foot trailer behind it filled up to the brim. And the last leaf spring on the pickup was barely down to the conact points on the frame. With family on the inside, we drove back from Oklahoma to the McKinney area of north texas. His loaded up f-250 was hard to keep up with in our 2001 Accord. One of my friends in college has a farm in Texas, and he drove a early 90's F150. This last one was beat up, but farm work on top of a 20 year old behind the wheel you do the math. My old roomate had a leased 96ish base F150, manual v6 and all. Let's just say after the 2 or so years he owned it, the oil never got changed, the clutch was dropped many a times, and he drove that thing all over Texas(and other states, even up to Montana). After turning it in, with all that abuse, he wished he owned it still today. All trucks mentioned still run great, no matter how much abuse, milage, or neglect.

    My point to make is that I don't think I am biased against buying other brands, even though I am surrounded by Fords. Our minds are not changed by a few simple recalls. When we get a letter, we just take the Ford in and have a part replaced or serviced, and go on our happy ways. Ford does take care of it's customers.

    I guess it really comes down to brand loyalty. You buy a Ford Truck typically because you know someone who has one, or have one in the family. Then you will know what Built Ford Tough really means. That's why you older Ford's trucks still on the road, because they just don't die. Ford still offers the best deals on trucks. You just can't get more of a truck for such a great deal. If you're a commuter, a home depot regular, a kid hauler, or if you hook up and haul anything for the farm, you really can't go wrong with a Ford.
  • sc0rpi0sc0rpi0 Posts: 897
    The only time a vehicle is an investment is when it is a classic model. 1960s Mustangs and Camaros are an investment. Your everyday Ford Ranger and my Toyota Tacoma are not investments.
    Quit trying to impress people with your statements like "Why don't you start some investments". You are not as smart as you think you are, and others are not as dumb as you think they are.
  • mrb11mrb11 Posts: 58
    "I don't think I am biased against buying other brands"

    How much did Ford pay you for post # 100 advertisement?
    You are good! Ford ought to put you on TV.
    I'm headed to the nearest Ford store right now to trade in my three vehicles for three
    "Built Ford Tough" trucks! Yahoooooo!!!
  • smgillessmgilles Posts: 252
    Thank you for the laugh and the smile for the day I needed that.

    "Just picture a longbed 4x4 F-250, with a 30 foot trailer behind it filled up to the brim. And the last leaf spring on the pickup was barely down to the conact points on the frame. With family on the inside, we drove back from Oklahoma to the McKinney area of north texas. His loaded up f-250 was hard to keep up with in our 2001 Accord."

    Now pull my other leg it plays jingle bells.
  • I understand your skepticism, you're a Toyota Owner, and I'm a "misguided", big bad Ford owner.

    Ok, Briefly: We could have easily beaten him in top speed (That 2.3l accord can do 100+ easy) However, when you get a speeding ticket going 25 miles over the limit (thanksgiving weekend, girlfriend driving) you don't want to chance another one on the way back home.

    Do I have to put so much detail into every post?
    Do you want my posts to be longer?

    But the point was he was doing well over the speed limit in moderate traffic (about 85 or 90 when the limit was 65), and wasn't running out of steam any time soon. Some day you may know what a 7.3l Turbo Diesel engine can deliver. It's no race truck, but it can probably haul your house off it's foundation.

    mrb11--->I'm not biased. If I see another brand that offers the same amount of vehicle for as good a price, I'll get one. My post was just reflecting on how lots of unrelated people happen to stand by Ford, when they could have purchased ANYTHING else on the market.

    Hey, that's my opinion and commentary on "why Ford F series trucks are the #1 vehicle sold in the world".
  • mrb11mrb11 Posts: 58
    Yeah! longer posts......More details. Just start breaking up you posts with chapter numbers.
  • smgillessmgilles Posts: 252
    I am well aware of what a 7.3 turbo diesel can do, my parents own one. They use it to haul their 5th wheel. You are not a big bad Ford owner, just a Ford owner. If I were ever to buy a full size truck I would buy a SD over anything. My parent have been through 2 over the past 15 years and both have been great. The F-150's were another story, they just couldn't handle the weekly abuse of hauling horses to rodeos and moving cattle across the state, but I don't think any other 1/2 ton could of either.

    So, no I don't think you are "evil", but I do know the capabilities of the truck you were talking about and when it is loaded down and you try telling me that a Honda accord was doing all it could to keep up, I am going to be a bit skeptical.
  • tbundertbunder Posts: 580
    you're right, you shouldn't have any investments. you should wait until you turn around 45 or so to start investing money. you're so smart. i wish i could be like you. (young, ill-informed, and naive)
  • sc0rpi0sc0rpi0 Posts: 897
    I don't know....either you really did not understand what I wrote, or you just keep trying anyway to force me into an arguement by purposefully twisting my words every time, even though I said I have no desire to get into that discussion. So what are you? Pick one from below..

    A. An idiot who doesn't know when to quit.
    B. An idiot who knows when to quit but ignores his better judgement.
    C. A reasonably smart person who knows when to quit and follows his better judgement.
  • sc0rpi0sc0rpi0 Posts: 897
    I'm somewhere in the middle: I'm not an idiot, but sometimes don't know when to now.
  • tbundertbunder Posts: 580
    laughing. wow, you're easy to get to, scorp.
  • sc0rpi0sc0rpi0 Posts: 897
    You didn't get to me.
    That kind of behavior you are exibiting is simply stupid.
  • tbundertbunder Posts: 580
    giving one advice to invest money while they're still young is stupid? and totally ignoring the good advice like you're doing isn't? whatever dude. maybe i should make a donation to city tech, eh?

    speaking of stupid-who totally laid out a key asking "which one are you?" go look in a mirror my main man. did your tacoma come with those at least?
  • white250white250 Posts: 68
    I am glad I got out of this discussion when I did !!!!,
  • tbundertbunder Posts: 580
    im out on this one as well. u can't teach an old dog new tricks.
  • sc0rpi0sc0rpi0 Posts: 897
    No, but when you first assume that other people don't know anything, and then progress to force your "advice" down their throat when they clearly said they did not want to continue a discussion, and then get the attitude of "Well, you'll thank me later", thats stupid. I didn't want your advice, I did not ask for it. You know nothing about me, my finances, my plans for the future, which university I went to, etc.
    Yes, my Tacoma came with mirrors. No, to answer your long-thought assumption, I did not go to a "city tech", "community college".
    Complete this sentence, tbunder:
    "assumption is a mother of all ..........."
  • mbwhitleymbwhitley Posts: 32
    the best selling vehicle in the world because GM breaks up GMC and Chevy sales separately, while all Ford trucks come from a single nameplate?

    I always thought that GMC Sierra combined with Chevy Silverado beats F series volume
  • modvptnlmodvptnl Posts: 1,352
    since '94(?) till now that is!!!
  • tbundertbunder Posts: 580
    nerve has been hit evidently.

    yep that's why they can say they sell more. but if you want to put it that way, taurus/sable sales equal more than camry.
  • PF_FlyerPF_Flyer Pennsylvania Furnace, PAPosts: 7,966
    Enough of the personal battles OK???

    Let's get back to the trucks.


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  • fordtuffordtuf Posts: 101
    vwracer.... Ford trucks pulling most makes of cars

    Myself... I just picked up my second F250, 4x4, V10, SC. Got the first one in 99 (now traded in).
    I camp a lot, and what do I see pulling campers? By and large (estimate 70%) most people are using the Ford.

    A guy I work with was talking about getting a new Ford SD similar to mine. He was at a horse show last weekend and was mostly checking out the trucks. He couldn't believe it, not one Chevy pulling any of the trailers.

    These three instances seem to sum it up in my book, you go with what is tried and proven.
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