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Anyone care to list what they spend? Is this a Los Angeles rip off price?
I took it to the dealer + told them I'll pick it up when it's fixed for good. I demanded a toureg loaner + the dealer refused for "insurance reasons." As a former insurance defense lawyer for 10 yrs, I have no idea what "insurance reasons" he is talking about, nor could he give me any specific reason. I called VW corporate + the best they could do is authorize me $60 day for a rental.
2 strikes on my toureg so far, 1 more + it's a lemon in Va. My wife is already looking at the Volvo XC90's again.
I do NOT recommend anyone spend $40,000+ on any VW product when the dealers have no idea how to provide service at a luxury car level.
Steve, Host
They said that all of the Touaregs are coming back with the spots on the Muffler.
Additionally, though I knew the solution from here, I asked if it could be cleaned. The Service guy said that it wouldnt help as its coming from the inside. I then asked if there was a warranty or recall deal and he said not yet. I just cant imagine how it will look or act in a year. It really loks like it will be a big hole by years end.
I was at the dealer this evening to try and get some info on the 2005's. There are a few changes:
V6 get 20Hp increase to 240Hp
No single options anymore (park assist, xenons etc.)
All options are now going to be packaged and there are now about 5 packages for the V6
Bad News - Park assist is now only available with Nav.
No pricing availble just yet, they said July or Aug.
There are a couple of TSBs that need to be performed:
V570404 TB VW FOLDING KEY RADIO REMOTE CONTROL
V870402 TB VW WINDSHIELD CONDENSATION EXT LOWER
But that is no big deal.
Incidentally, I put together the below list of TSBs for the Touareg as of June 14, 2004. While it looks like a long list, one thing that can be said is that VW is working very hard to make this car better. One other TSB/software fix that is coming very soon is for the transmission shifting. Several people I know have already had the reflash done by VW QTM personel and report that it is a very good improvement on the problems they have had with their transmissions. Frankly, I didn't have any issues with the transmission in my V8 or my V10, so I won't bother with this TSB. Anyway, here is the list:
V000304 TB VW BATTERY CHECKING TERMINAL CLAMPS
V000305 TB VW HEADLIGHTS ADJUSTEMENT OF PDI NOT
V000306 TB VW NEW VEHICLE DETAILER RESPONSIBILIT
V000308 TB VW VEHICLE INSP., PROTECTION REMOVAL
V000309 TB VW ENGINE UPPER COVERS MISSING AT PDI
V000402 TB VW BATTERY CUT-OFF SWITCH DISCONNECT
V000403 TB VW BATTERY CUT-OFF DEVICE REMOVE PDI
V000404 TB VW TECH PREPARATION CALLING DLR TECH
V010307 TB VW UPDATE PROGRAMMING (FLASHING) CONT
V010405 TB VW ENGINE CONTROL MODUEL ECM DO NOT R
V010408 TB VW ENGINE CONTROL MODULE ADDITION DTC
V010411 TB VW UPDATE PROGRAMMING (FLASHING) TCM
V150401 TB VW MIL ON WITH DTCS P1347/17755 P1340
V170301 TB VW ENGINE OIL, SPECIAL REQUIREMENT
V200302 TB VW EVAPORATIVE EMISSION (EVAP)SYSTEM
V270302 TB VW BATTERY TESTING AND CHARGING MIDTR
V270303 TB VW BATTERY, MAINTAINING CHARGE DURING
V370301 TB VW AUTO TRANS SLIPS WHEN SHIFTING 2ND
V430401 TB VW SELF-LEVELING SUSPENSION ERROR MES
V440402 TB VW TIRE PRESSURE MONITORING SYS ANTEN
V440403 TB VW TIRE PRESSURE MONITORING SYS WARNI
V500401 TB VW PAINT FINISH, REMOVING INDUSTRIAL
V550401 TB VW REAR HATCH GLASS, OPEN WARNING DIS
V570302 TB VW ALARM SOUNDS IF TRAILER WIRING IS
V570303 TB VW EFFECTIVE RANGE OF REMOTE CONTROL
V570304 VW TB REMOTE CONTROL KEY TRANSMITTER PRO
V570404 TB VW FOLDING KEY RADIO REMOTE CONTROL
V630301 TB VW FRONT BUMPER, INSTALLING FRONT LIC
V640301 TB VW NEW VEHICLE WINDSHIELD REAR SIDE
V640302 TB VW NEW VEHICLE WINDSHIELD REAR SIDE G
V680301 TB VW REAR SEAT ARMREST LID, DISENGAGED
V680302 TB VW REAR SEAT ARMREST INCREASING CUPHO
V680303 TB VW FRONT ARMREST CUPHOLDER LATCH MECH
V690301 TB VW AIRBAG/PYROTECHNIC SEAT BELT DEPLY
V690401 TB VW PASSENGER OCCUPANT DETECTION SYS
V690402 TB VW SIDE AIRBAG IGNITER DIAG TROUBLE
V700303 TB VW FRONT DOOR PANEL VINYL PEELING AWA
V870301 TB VW MUSTY ODOR FROM HEATING AND VENTAL
V870302 TB VW AC COMPRESSOR INOPERATIVE DTC00445
V870402 TB VW WINDSHIELD CONDENSATION EXT LOWER
V910301 TB VW ROOF DISPLAY FOR COMPASS ADAPTING
V910302 TB VW RADIO, TONE, BALANCE OR FADER KNOB
V910401 TB VW COMPACT DISC (CD) DISPLAYS ERR COD
V910402 TB VW RADIO INOPERATIVE AFTER REPLACEMEN
V910406 TB VW RADIO, INSUFFICIENT BASS OUTPUT BE
V940301 TB VW HEADLIGHTS, MOISTURE ACCUMULATION
V940302 TB VW GAS DISCHARGE HEADLIGHT SYSTEM COD
V940303 TB VW TAIL LIGHT ASSEMBLY, REVOVAL PROCE
New York, Vermont, Maine and Massachusetts.
Does anyone know if the 2005 V10 TDI will qualify to be sold in any of these states?
They already have. Cleaner diesel fuel was originally required to be available by 2003. When the Bush Administration took office, that deadline was pushed back to 2006.
You want to guess how likely the deadline is going to be pushed back again after November given the convenient excuse of limited refinery capacity.
tidester, host
From article:
"..Volkswagen's front man for diesels, Richard Dorenkamp, believes the technical challenges will be met to allow diesels to be used well into the future.
"Diesels are powerful, economical, ecological and future-oriented," Dorenkamp said. "For the 2007 model year, there is a 95 percent reduction in tailpipe emissions, and we can't do it right now. But we're work- ing on it, and we believe we will meet the future emission standards."
Two emission problems haunt diesels: soot and nitrogen oxide. VW is working to develop particulate traps to handle the soot issue while "absorbers" are being developed to handle NOX, a component of acid rain.
A key to reducing emissions is being able to deliver fuel to the cylinders in small amounts at very precise timing under extremely high pressure, up to nearly 30,000 PSI. To deliver fuel to the cylinders, VW uses unit injectors rather than the common-rail system employed in the Mercedes-Benz 320CDI (AW, May 3). Unit injectors, located at each cylinder, have a mechanically driven pump that delivers the fuel to the electronically controlled injectors. The common-rail system uses an electronic pump to pressurize the "rail" that delivers fuel to each cylinder. Bosch makes both systems."
By the way, I changed the oil last weekend. It wasn't too bad. Put the air suspension on full off-road, crawl under, ten screws to take off the plastic shroud under the engine and trans. Oil drain right there. Oil filter comes off with a 36mm socket.
....Supposedly should be here in '05 (maybe as an '06 model??). Maybe the "What's new in 2005" board should not have been banished to Read Only so quickly. :-)
it rocks... !
225hp 330lb/ft
If it was offered on a 7 passenger version, and the price was kept to the current 6 cylinder gas; I’d be there signing a check.
My pessimistic side tells me that this scenario wouldn't happened for many more years, and the price will be significantly higher.
I found that Consumer Report is not a real good authority on automobile testing, they look more for the emotional things, and praise them as long as they are in a Japanese brand vehicle. I found them to diss the identical feature in a US made car that they praised in a Japanese made one (and I subscribe to Consumer Reports since more than 20 years).
I use their ratings when shopping for toasters (they won't let you try before you buy) but car reviews are (how to say politely) "not their forte"!
I was wondering if anyone on the board is currently towing a similar situation and how the experience has been? Any problems?
All thoughts are welcome on this topic even if you do not tow your comments are appreciated.
-Matt-
Post if you have a V8 or V6 and what kind of milage you average
I'm interested in how the V8's are doing. I wanted one, but, at 20k miles a year, I wasn't sure I wanted to feed it.
I am waiting for parts to fix a broken center console. Sounds like terminal backorder. They replaced a cracked wood trim piece on the door and screwed up the aluminum surround doing it. I'm now waiting for that part. The CD player puked and that was replaced out of dealer stock, with no further problems. The front brake rotors sure look like they are wearing down after only 12k miles. The pads have lots of meat left. I'll have them look at that when I bring the car in for the transfer case.
The bright side is that the dealer has a much better, more helpful attitude lately. Although they do not do loaner cars, they always ask if they can rent me one when I leave the car. I think VW maybe got the message that people that can afford $40-70k cars and trucks don't like to be messed with. We also have family and friends with similar incomes that buy lots of cars.
There is nothing on the road like it, except for the Cayenne, and it is a joy to drive. Cayennes are starting to sprout in my neighborhood, and I see alot of Touaregs on the road. I figure I saved at least $10k over a similarly equipped Cayenne and about $3-4k over a 2005 Touareg. It looks like they loaded the 2005 price for incentives like they gave the last couple of months of 2004's.
also what is the floorplan fee for 2005 Touareg V6?
These two will be very helpful in negotiating with a dealership.
I need this information ASAP!!!
Steve, Host
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Kleen Wheels has vented shields and they say it won,t effect the cars warranty.