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VW Touareg SUV



  • tomtomtomtomtomtom Posts: 491
    What are the exterior color choices of the Touareg? Do most of the dealers have one demo for people to sit in? The wife is thinking about trading in her 3 series for a SUV. In consideration are: Touareg and RX330. Test drove a GX and didn't like it.
  • regfootballregfootball Posts: 2,166
    I look primarily at 'seats up' configuration.

    Jetta has 34 c.f., Twareg has 31.3.

    In the CR car issue is a really interesting article on cargocapacity of SUV's wagons etc. Turns out the Passat wagon maximum rectangle size is only minutely bigger than a Jetta.
  • mml7mml7 Posts: 55
    However, as an example where numbers can be '98 Pathfinder has 85 cu. ft of cargo capacity, yet my brothers Passat Wagon has far more usable space. The problem with the Pathfinder design is that there is only ~38" of width between the wheel wells.

    It remains to be seen (at least by me since I haven't been able to make it to any car show that has shown it) what the usable cargo capacity really is.

  • regfootballregfootball Posts: 2,166
    gotta check out the consumer reports article in theri SUV buying guide.
  • mml7mml7 Posts: 55
    > gotta check out the consumer reports
    > article in theri SUV buying guide.

    OK, I looked at the article. It basically proves my point. The "usable" cargo capacity of the Passat exceeds that of the Pathfinder despite the fact that the volume measurements of the Passat (as supplied by VW) are significantly less than Nissan's published numbers.

    Since the Touareg isn't out, and since I've only seen VW's published number, it remains to be seen what the "usable" cargo capacity of the Touareg is.

  • adp3adp3 Posts: 446
    47 grand for a VW? Aren't VWs still "pieces of cr*p?"

    seriously - expensive to fix, poor reliability, etc.

    Isn't this STILL the case with VW?
  • adp3, did you just wake up from a six year long sleep??! Where have you been? VW/Audi is hot. They have awesome products! 1.8 Turbo is has been one of the most robust, moddable engines for years. Turbo diesels, and sporty wagons, and stylish sedans. Smell the coffeee my boy! If you are looking for poor reliability, and nasty fit/finish,(except a few like Focus), buy American cars/SUVs.
  • dweiserdweiser Posts: 288
    That's German for the Easter Bunny right?
  • vwguildvwguild Posts: 1,620
    near you for the 4th of July!!!!
  • thor8thor8 Posts: 303
    Quote from adp3,

    “47 grand for a VW? Aren't VWs still "pieces of cr*p?"
    seriously - expensive to fix, poor reliability, etc.
    Isn't this STILL the case with VW?”

    How way off! 5 years into a 98 Passat, never one single complaint, the 1,8 turbo 5 spd is just as sweet as day one, one thing for sure the interior quality of the materials is first class, nothing to envy to a 100k car.

    Some trivia, the 1,8 engine won at Le Mans twice in the LMP 675 class, 500hp for 24hrs is not a bad engine, he?
  • at Vancouver Int'l Auto show.
    It was the V8 ... very nice rig.
    A lot easier to get in/out than the Infiniti FX45.
    But I was surprised there was less leg-room in the back seat of the Touareg than in a Passat.
    Its easily a better buy than the Cayenne, or even BMW X5, but my wife has an order in for a new Passat TDI wagon whenever they arrive ... its a lot of car for the money compared to these SUVs!
    And if I wanted to go upscale, that W8 wagon was really sweet ... the E-class (at $15k more) doesn't have a V8 option, and the 540i wagon (at $16k more) doesn't offer 4WD. The S6 Avant is divine, but its $20k more than its VW twin!
    As far as long-term value, the All-road is amazing. Last time I looked at used values the lowest-priced car was still worth 90% of what it cost new after 2 years and 35,000 kms! Is there a Japanese car built that holds its value like that?
  • intmed99intmed99 Posts: 485
    I don't think that is possible! BMW X5, which is considered having the best resale value, does not even come close! 90% after two years?? can you show me the source??

  • clpurnellclpurnell Posts: 1,087
    is wort about 85% of it's value after 2 years. Saw a 2001 base that retailed for 35k selling with 35k miles on it for 30k.
  • intmed99intmed99 Posts: 485
    You're talking about going to a used car dealer. Try checking or for used car prices. Or check
  • clpurnellclpurnell Posts: 1,087
    kbb edmund etc etc. don't buy or sell cars last I heard hold out or accept their prices and you just got took. Dealers and indviduals buy and sell cars not books or informational websites.
  • steverstever Posts: 52,462
    The dealers over in Real-World Trade-In Values may be able to shed some more light on this thread since they are at the auctions every week.

    Steve, Host
  • intmed99intmed99 Posts: 485
    If you just go to a used car dealer, there are too many variables to say what the true resale value is. For that, you need to sit down with them and haggle like crazy (as if you're actually planning to buy the car). If you just go and look, then the dealer can mark any price he/she wants. That does not mean much.
  • jmummeryjmummery Posts: 11
    Is the north american engine going to be the W8 or a V8?
  • vwguildvwguild Posts: 1,620
    is a 4.2L V8; not the W8
  • nedzelnedzel Posts: 787
    VW is discontinuing the W8 on the Passat as well.
  • vwguildvwguild Posts: 1,620
    is still in the Model line-up for 2004...
  • idletaskidletask Posts: 171
    The V10 TDI will be available in the US next year.
  • vwguildvwguild Posts: 1,620
    That is according to me...posting on the Vortex...
  • JBaumgartJBaumgart Posts: 890
    How sure are you on the V10 TDI being made available next year? Is this official? A VW salesman at the auto show here last month had told me only the V6 and V8 would be sold here.
  • vwguildvwguild Posts: 1,620
    will be available end of Q1 2004 in 45 States...excluded are Calif., Mass., Maine, Vermont, & New York...

    Touaregs being delivered this June/July will be V6 & V8...
  • big_guybig_guy Posts: 372
    The dealership where I get my Passat serviced confirmed that the Touareg will be available stateside with the V10 TDI but not until the 2004 model year.
  • poseidonposeidon Posts: 30
    Any idea if the tiptronic paddle shifters are coming to the US as well?
  • I was searching in Canada.
    New they were about CDN$60k
    Cheapest used one I found was $54k (at a dealer)
    But there isn't as much selection here in Canada, and depreciation may be different than in the US.
    VW/Audi has higher demand in Canada which could lead to shortages of new vehicles, driving up used prices.
    (For example, Jetta TDI wagons are very scarce here on dealer lots ... but popular on the road)

    Does anyone else foresee a day when SUV prices plunge as people wonder: "What was I thinking?" ?
  • adp3adp3 Posts: 446
    I have not been asleep - I know Audis/VWs are hot, but are they worth it? I've ehard terrible things about reliability. The coil problem in the Audis is criminal, in my opinion. Of course, I would expect all the car makers would do the same to their customers, since none of them seem to actually care about the drivers of their cars. (I expect lots of blah blah blah back on that, but don't give it to me unless you also explain why Audi is treating their drivers so poorly in regard to the coil issue.)

    Actually, it you listened to HALF the stuff on these message boards, you could never buy ANY car!!

  • adp3adp3 Posts: 446
    has there been any movement by the California air quality folks to allow TDIs in Calif.?

    A friend of mine has a Gold TDI, and he is in Calif., so why no V10 TDIs?
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