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Why not?
There ARE plenty of powerful engines that aren't harsh when under high acceleration. But the Infiniti "G" is not one of them.
I for one, totally submitted to, and agreed with your statement but found that on a daily basis, it was too intrusive and I didn't enjoy the car and did not want to live with it. So, there are some of us who feel differently following the progression of the ownership experience. This doesn't mean that Infiniti doesn't give one a great car for the money.
I respect the viewpoint.
To me, it matters - a lot.
Part of the pleasure I derive from acceleration
includes the sound and the smoothness of
the internal combustion engine - conveying an impression
that it is "happy in it's work".
I do not want to hear \ feel an engine like the current Infiniti V6.
- Ray
Spends a lot of time at WOT...
includes the sound and the smoothness of
the internal combustion engine - conveying an impression
that it is "happy in it's work".
I do not want to hear \ feel an engine like the current Infiniti V6.
- Ray
Well said; I totally agree.
I don't disagree but it is in city traffic, from stoplight to stoplight, where I especially have the problem with it. I had the car for a while and put quite a few city and highway miles on it.
Well said
Gee, I said there are more powerful engines that don't growl so much, and now you're adding "...listed under 37K....has four doors....and is quieter...".
As if those have anything to do with the fact that the engine still growls and there are more refined engines out there. And quieter <> vibration, growl, harshness.
As far as I'm concerned, it's a truck engine -- we have a truck, and it's great. In a car, not so much. Something about the Viper V10 comes to mind.
Once a truck engine. . .
My TSX's engine is super smooth all the way up to its 7,000 RPM redline.
I have the best of both worlds in my Prelude equipped with an Apexi World Sport Exhaust. My Prelude sounds docile at idle, at low speeds, & while cruising on the highway. During on ramp merges & 5th to 3rd downshift passing when the tach needle sweeps past 5200 RPM, my Prelude roars all the way up to it's 7500 RPM redline. And I LOVE it!
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
I spend half of my hourish commute going from stoplight to stoplight. There are days I turn off the radio just to listen to the engine growl. I absolutely love it. I get 22 average, with 29 on the highway cruising at 70. I cannot complain.
When I punch it (which is not very often), the thing just moves, I could care less about what the NVH is for the 10 seconds I have the petal to the metal.
To each their own.
When I test drove the es350, yep it was quiet, but it was clearly missing something that I was looking for in my next vehicle.
You misquoted me. I said there are plenty of powerful engines out there that are not so harsh. Not "more powerful" - although I'm sure there are some of those, too. Audi, Acura, and BMW V6's are significantly less harsh. In fact, when I was looking at the G35 vs. Acura TL in 2005, it was the harshness of the G that turned me off, along with a substandard interior vs. its competitors.
I made a mistake by misquoting YOUR misquote of my original statement. I didn't say "more", originally. You inserted that word.
Usually when somebody has no argument they resort to insults.
I referenced my experiences, which correlate well with recent postings on the G37. The Infiniti G growled back then, and it growls now, too. If you like the power and features, that's fabulous. Just understand that others might have different desires than yourself. No need to be petty about it.
Usually when someone has no point they harp on small details on someone's post and form a counter attack on only a portion of that post.
Please move over to the right , intrusive engine noise comming thru.
Dodge Charger R/T
Ford Taurus SHO
Hyundai Genesis
Volvo S60 T6
Have they finally sorted out their transmissions?
It's nice being able to rent different vehicles for work to check them out. National normally only has GM stuff available, but there's the odd Chrysler or Ford product in the lot from time to time, plus I drove my first Hyundai a year or so ago -- all cars are so much better than they used to be these days.
Old man here [ over 60 ]
and the 335iS I drive currently has the
BMW Sport Exhaust.
At WOT it is NOT quiet.
Past recent cars [ including a Corvette ] had aftermarket
exhausts installed - to let a bit more of that
distinctive V8 heterodyne beat out...
for me to hear.
- Ray
Excellent hearing, for an old guy...
The NSX is not a bland car at all, but a toyota Corolla is, VW Golf is not, Nissan Sentra is.
Huh?? Say what??
E55 Wagon
M3
M5
RS4
RS6
S8
I had a 70 240Z in high school, the car ran MUCH better once the SU carbs were taken off and triple Weber's were placed on it..
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
The V8 transmissions are the same 5-Speed unit that debuted in the Mercedes E-Class years ago; the new 8-Speed unit (currently only in use on the new and very impressive Pentstar 3.6 V6) was co-developed with ZF and is also in use on new BMW models. As I understand it, the initial incarnation of the 8-Speed cannot handle the torque of the V8 engines (especially the SRT-8), however, there is an uprated unit already being tested which should be fitted to the bigger engines in the next year or so.
Does any of that say they've got their issues sorted? No, not specifically, but it's a reasonably good bet.
Careful --- you'll be called an old man!
I'm sure a Camaro or Mustang is also a good car for those where noise and harshness is not a priority. :P
We're not talking about sports cars here. All of these cars sacrifice sport for added luxury/comfort. The level of sacrifice is up to buyer preference.
And you do get what you pay for in this segment. The G might have a lower price of admission than some of the others here, but it also lacks some key features that others have standard.
Good try. But add the premium package and 18s on a g37 and it's still hovering 40kmsrp
The G is a nice car, but I'm pointing out that depending on one's priorities, it's not the bargain some might think it is. Sure, you can add these features to the G, but then all of a sudden, the G costs $40,000.
The C350 is a very nice $40,000 car...
Careful --- you'll be called an old man!
I've been called worse .
C350 w/leather, moonroof, and sport suspension w/18" wheels = $44,240
G37 w/leather, moonroof, and sport suspension w/18" wheels = $43,245
(I actually prefer leatherette and 17" wheels, so my C350 would cost $41,450)
It's not the volume of the noise that's offensive, it's the quality of the noise that matters. If the G37 sounded like a turbine powered sewing-machine at WOT, nobody would mention it.
And your power argument only holds sway if you value being 0.2 or 0.3 secs faster than the Volvo or Acura next to you at a stoplight (of course, if the road is wet, that's a different story, huh?). In the real world, on real roads, the difference in power is insignificant.
Again, it's not my intention to bash the G37 - it's a great car. For the shopper who values bang for the buck and doesn't mind a little roughness around the edges, it's a terrific value in the segment. But for many buyers, regardless of features, the fact that the G37 doesn't do luxury as well as some of the other cars here is a deal breaker. And add a few options that many buyers expect in this segment, and the value fades.
Woah, what a nice car!
It's not a sporty sedan so it doesn't qualify for this segment, but it's not bad. It feels nimble and corners pretty flat but the steering is numb. The VR6 has serious guts though, without significant torque steer. It's also got a beautiful, elegant, simple, airy cabin with a very high quality leatherette (!) interior and a well designed touch-screen infotainment system. The cockpit compares well with the best of this segment, and the back seat is huge with unbelievable legroom and a cavernous trunk.
MSRP was $29,000 for the V6 with sunroof, and it comes with pretty much all the features anyone would want. I honestly would have a hard time justifying spending $10K more for one of the subjects of this thread.
I'm not ready to buy yet, but I was sorely tempted to take it home. It's now haunting my thoughts...