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2018 430i Gran Coupe
2018 430i Gran Coupe
BMW maintains separate pricing sheets for each type of delivery. They both have same invoice-MSRP structure. delivery Euro prices are negotiable same way as US delivery prices.
Here is the deal, more less:
Base MSRP for 328i wagon is $38,395, Euro MSRP = 0.93*38,395=$35,700
Options: $8550 (same for each type of delivery)
Totals: US del: 46945, Euro del: 44250. My price: 43250, incuding dealer's fee. Of course add taxes.
So it is about $4000 less than US MSRP, but I have to pay the trip to Munich.
When I say "discount", in context of Euro delivery, it has the same meaning as "discount" in context in US delivery, but from lowered base. It is because the base is lowered not by the dealer's good heart, but by BMW of US.
This is main difference between BMW and Mercedes, Audi, or Volvo European deliveries. BMW has the prices negotiable, the other ones have the prices fixed, no negotiations.
Is that more clear now?
2018 430i Gran Coupe
Sweet rig - love the color- roof and wheels- along with it being a manual wagon- great rig
2018 430i Gran Coupe
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It's just too bad that "general public" doesn't buy those here - BMW is pretty last one standing, especially throughout 3-series line (almost, anyway). Audi ditched their A4 manual on wagon a few years ago, Benz was first to bow out completely.
There were noises of wagon (touring) being replaced by 3-series GT (like in 5-series) but it seems not just yet. It seems GT may come as an additional line. I woulnd't mind that at all, especially if it were sold as a complete line, i.e. both engines, both trannies - one can dream, right? Cause the only thing I miss from BMW is the 335i touring - they sell those in Europe (or at leat did for E91, can's say for F31). That thing must be insane
If I had to buy again, I could buy either one, I even like those liftbacks (GT-style) a little bit more than wagons; they are quite popular in Europe for D-segment (as they call all cars in size of 3-series). The body has more sedanish look, but comes with a full rear hatch, so larger cargo can be placed just like in a regular wagon or hatchback. Good combination. Previous generation Mazda6 was like that - of course didn't sell very well here so they ditched it.
2018 430i Gran Coupe
The thing with the "companion" fare was it requires you buy a booking code of full fare (Y or similar) for first ticket - but many tickets are available at deep (Q, T, Z or similar) that are about 50% of full fare, often even less.
2018 430i Gran Coupe
To be completely fair, the slushbox on the 328i loaner, I had for couple of weeks came, close to what I'd consider acceptable replacement. It was really first premium segment car I had opportunity to drive for more extended time and I almost liked the transmission. I opted for the manual simply because it was possibly last chance I still had an option(same with the six-in-line engine, BTW).
I'm resigned to strong possibility of getting a slushbox for my next car - hopefully long time from now. It's not going to be "terrible", or anything like that - just a little sad, that's all. End of an era. But since there was a stay of the execution, I used it.
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2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
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Excellent hockey game. I'm not happy with the outcome. As far as the ilx is concerned, it's nothing more than a glorified civic which in its current iteration hasn't exactly gotten glowing reviews. The 2.4 that will be available with a manual transmission (and electric power steering - YUCK) is a luxo version of the Civic Si.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
Can you substantiate any evidence or facts to even bring this absurd thought to the board?
i might be brash at times but I dont make things up - enjoy the day..
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/12/12/acura-rl-replacement-coming-in-april-tl-or-ts- x-to-be-killed/
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
The problem I cannot see how in the world they could make anything close to TSX experience with ILX. The thing is based on Civic platform :sick: whereas TSX was based on Euro/JDM Accord, which were positioned similarly to US ELLPS (and sold at appropriate prices). So you know the pedigree of TSX is much more noble than coming ILX. This is just another example of Acura and Honda losing their way. They are undoubtedly going through some kind of crisis.
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I believe Acura will likely maintain a 3-car lineup. RLX at the top, ILX at the bottom, and something in between. Lets just call it the TLX for now...
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
I've always liked the Prelude and yours looks just amazing. You've really taken good care of it.
My opinion is that Acura needs to offer the entire lineup with SH-AWD and nothing less than a 6spd auto, moving toward 8spd autos (and if possible keeping stick shifts if for no other reason than marketing.)
The direction Acura seems to be moving is to build nice cars -- that neither offend (once the beak styling is banished to at least the '12 TL level if not moreso) nor excite (visually at least.) The current and apparent upcoming future direction is to slowly continue to slide out of the Premium class. One $100,000+ NSX doesn't change anything.
Driving my 2012 TL SH-AWD Advance is very much like driving the previous generation Audi A6 (known as the C6), perhaps a 2009 or 2010 model.
That may be damning with faint praise or it may be simply mild, not wild praise that Acura in 2012 can build a decent 2009 Audi A6 clone (that isn't as good looking.)
In two years I move to a new car -- at this point Acura will get a look-see, but I'm thinking so will Infiniti and Audi and Cadillac. The Acura will have to step up its game.
Today, Acura reminds me, in the pecking order of the world, as the Japanese VW. :confuse:
The ol' beak works for some of us. Reminds me of a time, many years ago before marriage, in Venice where I saw a stunning Italian lady. She had a beak...but somehow, it worked for me
Why does BMW not make the cut?
- Ray
Just curious....
2018 430i Gran Coupe
Acrua should have made the ILX into something that the Integra was, a sporty entry level upsacle car... Not a luxury car, but an upscale car.
My wife's 3 Bimmers were pretty much joys to drive. The exclusion of any ELLPS or LPS car from future consideration was an oversight. Nothing more.
Sports update rangers lose, yanks up 3-0.
The Acura brand as stated before is the Asian Buick of this segment. No coupe, no convert, one standout with the mdx. NSx will be cool to see at the dealerships- but going to take more then a commercial with Jerry and Leno to get people to buy.
Place a nice turbo 4 in the TL as the base engine, add a 7 or 8 spd Dual Clutch transmission, keep the base price under 35K, have leather standard, along with Nav. FOr the Type S, V6, dual clutch 7 or 8 spd, AWD, fully loaded price 44K. ACrua needs to go back to the pricing game and continue to give people more for their money.
Drop the ILX, it is a POS, too expensive for what you are getting...
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