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BTW, my lease transfer was initiated today. 3 weeks and no more 330i.
I mentioned in the longterm blog for the mx-5 that I'd be happy to take your Miata if it's priced right. I wasn't kidding. I almost feel like emailing Dan and letting him know I would seriously consider snatching up Edmunds' Miata.
I understand they are going for under invoice. Combined with their excellent resale value, it wouldn't cost much more than the Miata over 3+/- years. I have to say that my 2002 Honda S2000 still holds a soft spot in my heart. It's priced nominally above a Miata, but $30k below a decked out Boxster S and is a heck of a lot closer to the latter than the former in performance.
Don't you love it when others try to tell you how to spend your money?
Mercedes rules over there."
Funny. As an American consultant I was unable to drive any of the fleet that MB-USA keeps in Stuttgart for their use when they're in town, instead, MB-USA had the forsight to rent me a BMW. It was kind of fun pulling into the Sindelfingen lot or the debis SystemHaus lot in Leinfelden-Echterdingen and being the ONLY BMW. Funny thing, all of the guys couldn't wait to drive my car. "Mercedes? Boring. Bey-Em-Vay? Fun."
BMWs rule over there. ;-)
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Shipo
I just don't see it......
Rocky
I am looking to possibly get a 2-3 year old used model, so that BMW free maintenance wouldn't be a factor.
Thank you!
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A lease could work out for you if you don't pile on the miles.
But the Japanese rule with low maintenance vehicles.
On that note, is the free maintenance program on a BMW transferrable? So if I was to get an 06 with some miles on it, would it still have the free maintenance?
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I know a guy with an 06 330is for sale and he's below 34k now because he can't move the car at all (it stickered for over 45k new). I didn't even try to sell mine - buyout of the lease was 34k - as I figured it's a bigger hassle than swapping the lease.
I was kinda thinking I'd miss my 330i on the drive home tonight but already I'm getting excited at the prospects of owning a convertible and something small, rwd and razor sharp in the corners.
Or would anything 2003 and beyond still have some of it?
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Pre-2006 would be the e46 cars.
The reason I'm looking at BMW is cause I carsat my friend's 2006 325i for a weekend,and totally fell in love. First time I drove a BMW and it was just amazing, imo.
I know the 2006 was a total redesign, but in terms of that driving dynamic, is there a huge difference between that and the e46?
Reards,
OW
I'd suggest 2006 models... Plenty of warranty and maintenance left on those...
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What seems to be truth or fact to you is opinion for another.
You hit the nail on the head when you say "I don't care". Some do, some don't.
"The TL outsells several RWD competitors so obviously there are many people out there who arent turned off by its FWD layout."
A lot of people buy the "A" badge, in the same way people buy the propeller or "L".
The guys from my dealership have been to the Acura Convention and we're informed of this.
What nobody knows yet is what it'll look like, if it'll be bigger or smaller, etc.That is still completely under wraps.
And yet any person here can order a 3 ED and in fact get it cheaper than a G. How can you deny that? Not sure, considering people in this forum have purchased cars via ED.
The G is cheaper for what I would order but it also feels cheaper to me. Would I pay more for a BMW...yes, I already did. Will I get the expected return? Ditto.
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OW
If what you say is true, the TL moves up the list IMO.
Regards,
OW
Yup, MSRP comparison seems fair.
From reading the posts here and at various forums, I think that people who buy BMW have to justify to themselves that it is OK to overpay for drive/handling that a BMW is known for. They are also OK dealing with all the reliability problems that come with a BMW because, hey, all they care about is drive/handling. Now the moment someone tries to question that, it becomes a big deal since that is the primary reason they overpaid and was the fundamental basis of their decision. How dare you question that I cannot feel my BMW's handling when I am driving in stop and go traffic commuting to work
I think I may need to buy a BMW just to experience that for myself Better get back to work as I am going to need a lot of moolah... "
I don't think BMW owners need to justify their spending on the car to anyone, and I can at least speak for myself. Its when someone tells me that "I" will not be able to feel the driving experience in 'my', that's when I have a problem. I never tell you what you may or may not feel about your car, so how can you? Yes, how dare you tell me how I will or won't feel about my drive?
Secondly, yes, I do drive my car mostly to commute to office, and I do feel the difference compared to other cars I have driven over the same commute. You may or may not feel it, and I can't tell you you do or don't!
Personal preference; to me the non sport 3 was too soft. I would never get one without Sport pkg.
People have differnent preferences, and their choices are catered to by our market; that why you see a stiff 3 series as well as a softer ES both do well in the market.
You guys act like a dollar is a dollar. When you find something you really like, the money becomes secondary. It just so happens, I found a way - a way open to all buyers - to feed the desire at a low price point. There's no voodoo involved. Every buyer can do it.
In theory every buyer can do it...in practice I don't have the time to take a LOOOONG flight to Germany to pick up a car. AND I don't have the flexibility to wait a month or two waiting for that car to make it back to the states. AND I personally wouldn't touch a BMW past the free maintenance period so I would be looking at a relatively short-term lease which would mean I'd have to fly to/from Germany every 2-3 years and not have a car for several months every 2-3 years. AND you are not factoring in the cost of a trip to Germany.
ED is a great program if you already go to Europe or if you have the time to go specifically to pick up a car....and if you have extra cars in your garage or don't mind waiting 1-2 months to get your new car. Plus when I was researching ED I read several horror stories about people waiting much longer than 1-2 months for their car...there are no guarantees regarding how long it will take for your car to arrive.
So in practice even though the program is available to every buyer, it isn't at all practical for every buyer.
This could be why infiniti redesigned the car and made improvements. I would say the 330i is a superior car to the last gen G35 and it should be since they are in different generations. The current G35 was designed to compete the the current 3 and does a good job. Lower price plus 95% of the 335s performance plus better interior plus better reliability equals better car. Doesn't mean that BMW fans will like the car or stop making excuses for the 3 series, it just means the G is the better buy.
So you could counter a 328 could be had at the same or lower price than a G35 but the G35 has more horsepower and that would be a valid point.
To you.
Who's making execuses for the 3 Series?
According to your theory, the Accord EX V6 or an Altima/Maxima V6 is a better buy than a G35 ot a TL, right? Then why buy a G or a TL at all?
I have also taken the car too fast around a corner (intentionally) and I was very impressed with the smooth slide and easy handling and traction recovery of the car. I am sure that it is not impossible to loose control of this car, but you would have to work very hard or have some unusual circumstances to loose control of this vehicle. It is a highly impressive engineering feet compared to the many other vehicles that I have driven to their limits.