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1) Took over the Isuzu area to answer questions for the reps since they knew nothing of Isuzus at least nothing of Troopers. They let Doug go sit in the drivers seat of the ASSender on the turn table which was cool.
2) "Tested" the side steps on the SUVs, almost broke all but the G-wagon ones. Succeeded in ripping off one of the side steps on the Montero Sport by accident. 1 Jump on there and it went "creeeeeeeeeek and bent down about 2"
3) Doug was able to "fix" the hood latch on the Duramax Diesel Pickup w/o the GM reps realizing until we had the hood open for 10 minutes! "How did you open that?" I'm like "Duh, I said 'Open Sesame!', no we fixed the latch" They got annoyed and closed the hood they were pretty rude about it too.
-mike
Ascendor was a disappointment to us, too. Total GMC clone. The turn signals in the mirror are also on the GMC version. Didn't even look particularly roomy in the 3rd seat, so what's the point?
Did you see the Hummer H2 cutaway? Those side steps are MASSIVE! It was roped off though.
-juice
http://just-auto.com/news_detail.asp?art=37617&dm=yes
Isuzu consolidates operations
http://just-auto.com/news_detail.asp?art=37619&dm=yes
Isuzu will have a "lean business structure free of redundancies", I wonder if that means GM will just run it themselves and layoff most current staff. :-(
-juice
-mike
The back of the GX470 was a box lacking any styling cues, but I like the D-pillar, and all other angles.
-juice
Bob
-juice
-mike
Nice Trivia tid bit.
-juice
Bob
1) hit your head on it
2) usually open above the roof line
3) can't mount spare tire on it
I'd like to see a trooper 70/30 split with the 70 section have a window go down into the door so you can stick big stuff out the back.
-mike
The hatch on my Forester is a little taller than I am, at least in most places. Unless you're 6'3", or you're talking about a shorter vehicle, hitting your head isn't a big issue.
I like the Trooper's setup better than the Rodeo's.
-juice
Bob
Rear:
View for some people is a problem, although most owners don't have a problem only the occasional driver has a problem with them like that.
Inside in tub:
have to move all items on top of the tire to access it, this can be a problem with a fully loaded vehicle on a rainy night on I95 while on a trip to florida.
Outside underneath:
damage from road debris, dirty, if you get a flat you also need to lay in the mud to access it.
That is also the order that I like my tires stored
-mike
Bob
-juice
Inevitably you never get a flat on a day when you have all the time in the world, its bright sunny and about 75 degrees!
-mike
Actually, I never get flats - my wife does. Even on my cars, it's when she borrows them!
-juice
-juice
Bob
It boggles my mind that they are still able to sell Wranglers today, with the cost versus what you get.
-Colin
Bob
They need to develop it in the same direction. Any attempt to soften it at all could spell disaster for them because it would alienate the core buyer.
-juice
You don't get much for your $20-25k (6 cyl) was my point.
-Colin
-Colin
-mike
-juice
-Colin
It was obviously not 'stock' anymore with the dual exhaust off the rear and sounded like it had some cam work done (brrraaapp, brrraaapp, brrraaapp). Body was in good shape, but no side mirrors? The middle aged couple driving looked like they were enjoying it.
-Brian
Believe it or not side mirrors were optional, though most had them. Maybe these folks had the car repainted and hadn't reinstalled theirs.
Ed (with more Lark Daytona info than you thought you'd ever want)
It didn't look like it was recently painted, but just in good shape. Chrome was polished.
I apologize for calling it not stock.
-Brian
Here's a link to some nice pics of a '64 Daytona 2-dr hardtop, in which you can see the badges clearly as well as the Paxton-fed 289:
http://www.eastohiocoolcars.com/Other/1964Studebaker.htm
It has aftermarket wheels but otherwise looks pretty much stock.
Of course once the car got up to speed, you'd definitely hear the Paxton kick in!
Ed
At least we kept this topic moving over the weekend! Thanks again Ed!
-Brian
http://clubs.hemmings.com/trispokeschapter/zonemeet2000.html
This car looks similar to the one from which I draw my screen name, except that mine has 4 doors and the lowly base 170 ci inline 6, plus it's a metallic pewter (called Silver Mist, but closer to the color of a Tampa Bay Bucs football helmet).
Yes it is a good Cafe topic, isn't it?
Thanks,
Ed
-Brian
Took the 9am train to Grand Central, bought a 1 day metrocard, subway down town to Fulton St., walked to South Street Seaport and got a ticket to the WTC Gnd Zero viewing area. Even though it was marked 5pm, they let me go immediately as I had a prepaid ticket to the auto show and train ticket showing it as a one day excursion. Paid my respects, then caught a subway uptown to Time SQ, then walked to the Javits Center. (Oh, and forgot to add - ate street vendor food all across town....). Was exhausted by the time I got there at almost 2pm but quickly caught a 'second wind' as soon as I walked in the door!
Spent 8+ thrilling hours and never saw 100% of the place. Left at 10:15pm, walked up to 42nd St and caught a bus back to Grand Central. Got home (Hopewell Jnct) at about 12:30am. The only bummer was doing this adventure alone. It would have been fun to share.
The show did not disappoint. There is some great stuff coming to a dealer near you in the next two years or so. The hot segment is the 'cross-over' vehicle. Slightly raised station wagon body, usually with awd. Gee, sounds like the Subaru formula??? Which should serve as a wakeup call to our favorite mfgr. The competition will be fierce by mid-decade. Time for a serious infusion of power and more transmission gears across the board to help maintain / increase market share.
Steve
Steve
I'll always be 2yrs 6mths 2 days behind you ;-)
"Time for a serious infusion of power and more transmission gears across the board"
It's always easy to add more power/gears. I think; to be ahead of the competition, which Subaru is, is to concentrate on improving (R&D) the AWD to be use with more power/gears available.
-Dave
http://www.autonews.com/article.cms?articleId=38923<
Lutz news
http://www.detnews.com/2002/autosinsider/0204/08/b01-458851.htm
Bob
The deli food was great, but I'm still craving NY Pizza, and the bagels and donuts you buy from street vendors - yum! Did not see ground zero, or a Broadway Show. Gotta go back soon.
Happy belated B-Day!
The next few years will bring unprecedented pressure on Subaru. Everyone will have an AWD wagon, once a niche they had to themselves.
So, how can they stand out?
* retain AWD only models
* retain boxer engines only
* offer bigger wagons
* traction + technology
* power + application of power
The first three are no-brainers. Keep the identity but expand the lineup.
The last two mean more traction control, stability control, varialbe valve timing, forced induction, and trannies with more ratios. Forget five, give us a SIX speed shiftronic for the top-end Foresters, Legacys, and Outbacks.
Lead, don't follow. Every manufacturer in the planet is in your rear view mirror. Let's keep it that way! :-)
-juice
Ed
Bob