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  • lucien2lucien2 Member Posts: 2,984
    Java Black FXT, silver or gunmetal Rota SDRs 17x7 +48, maybe 35% tint....
  • hondafriekhondafriek Member Posts: 2,984
    When you swap out your WRX head unit are you planning on keeping it or will you sell? if you are selling it do you have a figure in mind?

      Cheers Pat.
  • subearusubearu Member Posts: 3,613
    You still thinking about that ~$23k one Loosh?

    The SDRs would look nice on the F-XT. I'd think gunmetal, but would have to see 'em in the flesh first.

    If it were me, I'd get the F-XT MT, add an aftermarket moonroof, get the rears tinted, and since you can't put a hood deflector on 'er I'd think about that clearguard stuff. Katskins would be nice as well, but I'm sure I could live with the cloth.

    Pat - Titan is tinted right? What % did you do?

    -Brian
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Dunno Loosh, I bet you could get a GT for XT money plus the cost of those rims.

    I'd at least wait to hear pricing.

    -juice
  • c_hunterc_hunter Member Posts: 4,487
    Not sure yet. With three other Subarus in the extended family, I sort of feel like I should keep it around as a spare part. Then again, I don't need any more junk in my garage! I guess it depends on what they are going for -- if it helps me recoup some of the cost of the new radio, that would be a good motivation to sell. I'll be glad to give you dibs if I decide to sell it -- I know you've been looking for one. It's in perfect shape, only had the car for a year so far (radio sticker says it was made in July 2002).

    Craig
  • lucien2lucien2 Member Posts: 2,984
    but if you'll recall, time isn't entirely on my side. If I knew when SoA was going to make up their mind about when to release pricing, I could at make a plan. But as it stands I can't be in a state of perpetual standby.

    And ya know what? Given what I do in a car 99% of the time vs. the half dozen or so autocrosses every year, I'm almost of the mind that the FXT may be the better fit- shorter, narrower, easier to get in and out of urban traffic, east coast street and alleys, parallel park spaces, a little extra clearance for these lovely downtown streets and curbs, and a point-and-squirt factor second to none. Boy this fence is pointy, isn't it? :-))
  • p0926p0926 Member Posts: 4,423
    Loosh- Speaking of the point-and-squirt factor... did I mention that I surprised a 350Z the other day? I was grinning ear-to-ear the rest of the drive in to work.

    -Frank P.
  • c_hunterc_hunter Member Posts: 4,487
    I requested a brochure from the need-desire site, and it showed up a couple days later. The cover letter said that additional web content and vehicle pricing would be added to the site shortly.

    Craig
  • c_hunterc_hunter Member Posts: 4,487
    Have you completely written off a WRX wagon at this point?

    Craig
  • lucien2lucien2 Member Posts: 2,984
    Craig-
     just about, but not because it isn't a good car. I think, in the long run, the car geek in me is going to be happier knowing I've got a very nice powerplant with AVCS, and the broader torque curve. As I said earlier, I do suffer a bit of a mod hangover on the Legacy (not as bad as Colin's though), and I have a feeling I'll be looking for downpipes, uppipes, UTECS, and all the other things that suck up money and time. I still think swaybar upgrades are a good idea on both vehicles, and that isn't too hard to do, but I won't be looking forward to involved changes to the car's internals. And while a set of STi springs might be nice at some point, i'll be more cautious about degrading ride quality too much this time around, no matter what I end up getting.

    Also, there's the extra goodies like the winter package and the slightly more upscale feel of the dash. And there's a bit more room vertically and in the shoulders too.

    Having said all that, I still feel the WRX wagon represents a hell of a good deal in a remarkably versatile package. With prices here in MD now comfortably below $21,000, you are right in reminding me just how spanking good a deal it is. *shifts weight to make pain of fence more tolerable*
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Better for Baltimore pot holes, too, Loosh. After all you live in an urban setting.

    -juice
  • hondafriekhondafriek Member Posts: 2,984
    Whatever you decide.

      Cheers Pat.
  • subearusubearu Member Posts: 3,613
    ...and towards that dealer with the black SG waiting for him) ;-)

    More things in favor of the FXT:

      * more attention to the L-GT should cause more people to get 'em (might make it more of a magnet for unnecessary attention)

      * lots of WRXs out there (already a magnet for attention)

      * not a lot of FXTs out there, most are silver (makes it appear more unique)

      * the FXT is underappreciated by the press (and has decent upgrade potential)
    Save the GT for your dw to upgrade too in a couple of years 8)

    -Brian
  • hondafriekhondafriek Member Posts: 2,984
    Brian, did not see your earlier question Re tint,

     Yep Titan is tinted,15% in back 30% in front is what they used I believe.

      They will not allow less than 30% on front police officer or others have to be able to see through it.

      Cheers Pat.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    They usually use 5%, 20%, and then 35% tint. So you might have 20 and 35%.

    Of course maybe you used a unique manufacturer that doesn't go with those industry standards...

    -juice
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    OK, favorite non-Subaru from Detroit? What say Ye?

    Saab 9-2x.

    LOL

    -juice
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Production Cars
    Saab 9-2x, Pontiac Solstice, Nissan Pathfinder and Frontier.

    Concept Cars
    Acura sports car concept, Chevy Nomad, Saturn Curve and the Chrysler Enzo-eater.

    I don't even consider the exotics (for production cars), as they have no relevance on my life.

    Bob
  • hondafriekhondafriek Member Posts: 2,984
    Then it is 20% and 35% we use the same standards here as you do, I just was not sure of the actual percentage, my instructions were to use the darkest possible but not limo which I know to be 5%.

      Cheers Pat.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    On the 2.5L Turbo motors is the way I'm likely gonna go.

    -mike
  • p0926p0926 Member Posts: 4,423
    Juice/Pat- Just FYI but I checked and they installed 40% front and 20% rear on my Forester. The manufacturer was SunGard which also makes 30% and 5%.

    -Frank P.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Maybe the industry isn't so standardized like I thought.

    My faves?

    Production cars: Legacy GT, Solistice, Saab 9-2x, Volante convertible, 'vette, Grand Caravan (for stow-and-go seats), Freestyle, RX 400H & Highlander hybrids, and Pathfinder.

    Elise was not shown, breaks my heart!

    Cool concepts: Nomad (awesome), Jeep Rescue (as an H2 alternative), Range Rover Range Stormer (coolest SUV), Eclipse Concept-E (styling is once again interesting), VW Concept roadster.

    Worst/ugliest cars? GM minivans, BMW 6 series' rear end, PT Cruiser convertible (cheesiest interior I have *ever* seen), QX56 (fixes none of the flaws on the Armada), Suzuki hatchback (noone even noticed), Mazda's premium small car (belongs in Tokyo), Vision GST (ugly + blind spots), and the winner for worst/ugliest car in show...

    drum roll please...

    VW Concept T!

    -juice
  • hondafriekhondafriek Member Posts: 2,984
    Went and checked my invoice, and the percentage is 20% rear and 35% front.

      Cheers Pat.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Cool. So I was right, but now we know the industry doesn't always standardize.

    -juice
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    This is my favorite Porsche Carrera GT pic of Bob's:

    http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid98/p88444f12b0523ccfb607- ab8c502597f2/fa0186be.jpg

    The 5 into 1 exhaust of the V10 is just sculpture. Also check out the exposed chassis, in all carbon fiber:

    http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid98/p57e0c5b6a50469535985- 879c3f9c3159/fa018708.jpg

    You could touch the ceramic brake rotors and all. I could not believe how rigid the carbon fiber was. It's not new, but it has grown on me since it's debut. Some pics make it look sort of generic. Even now, I preferred looking at the naked chassis.

    -juice
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid98/pee4d25f65130cf24ff20- 866a72d9701a/fa018b25.jpg

    OK, juice hates the Cayenne, why share this?

    Because that spare tire holder is absolutely comical. I like showing Cayenne's ugly side.

    -juice
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid98/pd86a377026b78db7106c- 1ea061811e71/fa018d18.jpg

    I didn't care for this top at all. Bob liked it OK. Guess I don't like the extensions on the side of the top that go beyond the rear windows, which is tiny.

    I also don't like the hunch-backed rear view of the 6 series, so this photo shows both of my beefs with this model.

    The front has grown on me and it now so-so, still, my guestbook has a comment that it looks like a Grand Am.

    -juice
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    This is how you do a drop-top.

    The tail lights echo the front headlights. The design flows consistently all the way around, no part stands out and says "Whoops" like in the Bimmer.

    http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid98/p18caf75d0a8c8beb8704- 4d0502a7303d/fa018dd6.jpg

    -juice
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Now this was right next to it and looked ridiculous:

    http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid98/p77a784b9a69cc7d06fa6- a0e7e5ccdd42/fa018fd9.jpg

    No way it deserves to share floor space with that roadster, no way no how. Hideous from every angle. They had to give is scissors doors or noone would even have looked at it.

    My guess is they want to justify doing an overpriced Touareg 2 door, and wanted to see if they could draw attention.

    Negative attention, maybe.

    -juice
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid98/p19d896d03878ddd33f14- 0a2aef0ceb41/fa0190f4.jpg

    Following a long line of handsome concepts it their 8th. While I didn't care for the bi-sected head- and tail-lights, the design is otherwise swoopy and clean.

    This is supposed to hint at the next Tiburon.

    -juice
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid98/p6dea6df615b458410a85- 1ecfb2cc4764/fa0191a6.jpg

    Flares looked good. Size was just right. 3rd row splits, so packaging looks better than the Exlporer.

    They even kept the C-pillar of the Dunehawk concept. Wonder if the rain rails will drain water properly.

    -juice
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid98/p08ba5f4daef67266ee7c- b4da34ff537e/fa019311.jpg

    Anything would be an improvement over the current one, but Nissan has a good effort. The bed liner is sprayed in, and the moving tie-down system is just genius. They even come with covers for when you haul pea gravel or mulch that might get stuck in the tracks.

    That face is the same as what goes on the PF.

    -juice
  • nygregnygreg Member Posts: 1,936
    looks like something out of a happy meal.

    Greg
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Agreed, Greg. Transformers or something. Keep it in the toys, folks.

    http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid98/p1ce661f21c383f0cf708- a5df2ead2da0/fa01951d.jpg

    Nissan Actic. Took us 5 minutes just to spell it. Dumbest concept name ever, perhaps.

    Suicide doors we know will never make production. Goofy futuristic styling. Did nothing for me.

    Next.

    -juice
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Pinochio kept lying, and lying, and lying:

    http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid98/p4502e43187bf9a74568f- 5ae516218747/fa01961d.jpg

    Biggest nose in the biz. Also the most desperate need for a nose job.

    Enzo is also ugly. Why do supercars have to be slaves to the wind tunnels? Can't they be aerodynamic without these silly, upraised noses?

    -juice
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Yes they can!

    http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid98/p3d3a43557f8035282b22- 5aba544bdf08/fa019690.jpg

    The front end grille is slightly overdone, but that's like complaining about a mole on supermodel.

    -juice
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    ...will not be one these:

    http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid98/p4c9b8194ec742b9f4892- b2a2fbf1e412/fa019720.jpg

    But it did get a huge amount of attention, and has packaging that other manufacturers could learn from. Plenty of room for two, cool features, decent cargo room, in about half the space my Miata occupies. Well, almost.

    -juice
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Could have been better, but nice try:

    http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid98/pe355fecc90e905d52b6d- 578e0d0ffd6d/fa01981b.jpg

    Didn't really like the front, or the D-pillar, which would kill visibility. Pacifica is styled more cleanly.

    Who will pay prices above the E-class for this thing? Beats me!

    -juice
  • bigelmbigelm Member Posts: 995
    That my friend, is YOU!!!! :-p
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid98/p9108c41b66ac974b220e- 06a3f77648ec/fa01992a.jpg

    Looks better in person. The taillights are neatly detailed but you have to look close. Front end looks like any number of mid-engined race cars.

    Good effort. They are countering the Ford GT, by the way.

    -juice
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Look at the cargo area - not very tall. Visibility is poor, I did sit inside and the blind spots are pretty bad.

    Surprisingly, head room was good:

    http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid98/p726bf91e8a75accac711- 908ada9d6b54/fa0199f3.jpg

    Also check out how the back portion of the roof raises with the hatch - how will they get water not to spill inside? Those rain gutters had better work well!

    -juice
  • ladywclassladywclass Member Posts: 1,713
    you listed your faves and nowhere did i see the B9 .. < shame shame .. runs to tell the powers that be that Juice no longer is the FIRST one on the list for the B9>
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Didn't really do anything for me. Saturn Curve and especially the Chevy Nomad were far more interesting concepts IMO.

    http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid98/pa2a7c7032dfcba0b82b4- d5ac617b34fa/fa019a7d.jpg

    -juice
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Elm: fit me like a glove. Unfortunately gloves are a little confining. ;-)

    Brenda - no fair, the B9SC did not debut at NAIAS so it was not on my list of "new" concepts.

    -juice
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid98/pef09616f8b1e96ce6593- 68e45be295cb/fa019b52.jpg

    Looks like a cute Corolla coupe. I see a family resemblance to the new Lexus GS, even.

    Cute enough, inoffensive. Finally Scion makes a car that doesn't have the speedo way over there in the center.

    -juice
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Look at the Fangs on the bottom of the front windshield:

    http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid98/pae0d9ab501a5db8b2e01- 8f1686a2cf38/fa019c06.jpg

    Ridiculous? Yep.

    Toyota has cool tall wagons already and doesn't need this silly concept.

    -juice
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    The only shot that matters in a Maybach:

    http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid98/p5017835a16c0e2e948bb- - a363542c7eb3/fa019ced.jpg

    That's the stretch, of course. If you have to ask, you can't afford it.

    -juice
  • bigelmbigelm Member Posts: 995
    There is no room in my garage for that car... nor my pocket for that matter either.
  • nygregnygreg Member Posts: 1,936
    The "Smart" half car was all over Paris when I was there. Great for cities. The Scion looks like a Civic. The Maybach, well, for those who complain about legroom. Reminds me of intercontinental first class (sure that was the goal).

    Greg
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Brenda, I think juice's "favorites" poll was favorites "besides" Subies. If Subies were included, then the B9 and Legacy would led my list too. :)

    Bob
  • ladywclassladywclass Member Posts: 1,713
    I'll take any reason I can get to move up the list on the B9 ... I'm telling you .. it's for the "older women" .... with that "Bingo" name ...
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