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  • locke2clocke2c Member Posts: 5,038
    dang juice, they're never inviting YOU back to an autoshow. ;)

    -c
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Just shoot me now. :-O

    Neither the Legacy nor the B9SC were a true debut, that's all. Of course both impressed me, why do you think I took about 700 photos!

    Actually, I'm uploading a bunch more. Basically the rest of my pics that were not of the Legacy. So yes, lots of B9SC pics plus the rest of the stuff there.

    -juice
  • FrankMcFrankMc Member Posts: 228
    I just read the link from Bob Hollands note. Subaru plans to sell 203,000 cars in the US next year. My first Subaru was a 1995 Impreza and Subaru sales were 100,000 vehicles. I am still using the car as a daily driver and they are projecting sales to double from that level. Subaru has come a long way. 1995 was notible as the last year you could buy a FWD car from Subaru. Some people thought they were crazy to discontinue the FWD cars since they were about 50% of the 1995 sales, but you can't argue with the results!
      By the way that Impreza is by far the most reliable car I have ever owned. 9+ years and the only repair is a $30 sensor. I am even on the original brakes @ 85,000 miles.

    Frank
  • nygregnygreg Member Posts: 1,936
    people here are really "dishing" on you. Did I use the correct terminology? Always wanted to say that...now back to my real age.

    Greg
  • bigelmbigelm Member Posts: 995
    if you're talking about people against what he said.

    ... and if you were referring to that 'terminology', that word has been played out for the longest, so you already revealed your age! LOL!
  • nygregnygreg Member Posts: 1,936
    Oh
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    "Dis" actually comes from disrespecting, but it does get pronounced "diss". Just keepin' it real. LOL

    Hey, I have thick skin, my Ego strength was #1 in a class of 400+ Psychology 101 students at U of MD. :o)

    Brenda just want the B9SC before I get it. So long as we don't have to enter a typing contest to see who wins it!

    -juice
  • nygregnygreg Member Posts: 1,936
    I think Brenda can type out an order for a B9 faster than you. Complete with a set of tires and rims for the winter. And then drive it to the Indiana plant! Your sc___d.

    Greg
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Don't give Subaru any ideas!

    I say they shoud hold a give-away contest that should be Subaru trivia related.

    -jucie
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid98/p1262a4a03ff945ae9e67- 28d1e3d7d5d4/fa019db7.jpg

    You think the next Tundra will be less boring maybe? This was overdone but still hints at a far more aggressive Tundra in the future.

    -juice
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid98/pe7e8a2f6b55582222690- 87f1d16c8f94/fa019dea.jpg

    For some reason I can't love this car. They just didn't sort out some details properly. It also stands in stark contrast to the squared off sedans, i.e. doesn't seem to belong in the lineup.

    -juice
  • bigelmbigelm Member Posts: 995
    I just used 'against' just to stay vanilla in here :-D
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid98/p51ddd5d72768181686ab- 793bc45fdcb6/fa019e3e.jpg

    Not as handsome as the concept, but still a step up from the unsorted current model. Front end has a family resemblence to the Scion tC, check them out back to back.

    -juice
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    You too can be cool and still have kids:

    http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid98/pe5f29b1baaf6fa61ce37- 9a5989e7ccab/fa019f80.jpg

    Hummer H2 fighter from Jeep. They need it to keep that off road image alive. Hummer has stolen their fire, if you ask me.

    Never mind how ridiculous it is, they will sell every model they build at a huge profit.

    Check out the steel rims. The too-high door handles. I do like the little kinks in the B- and C-pillars, though, note they match the angle of the A-pillar. Family resemblence to the Wrangler, too.

    -juice
  • twrxtwrx Member Posts: 647
    juice, don't call the homietown product boring

    A Concerned Hoosier
  • Karen_SKaren_S Member Posts: 5,092
    I normally don't voice my personal opinions about any make/model in the Town Hall, but I just can't resist on this one.

    Eww.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Bruce: which car were you referring to? I've commented on so many of them.

    -juice
  • locke2clocke2c Member Posts: 5,038
    and a very succinct opinion it is! :)

    ~colin
  • kajecokajeco Member Posts: 14
    that booger-looking hummer. somebody get a tissue and wipe that off the screen, please. :-D

    i'd be embarrassed to say i knew someone who owned that particular over-utilitarian-under-used machine.

    blegh.
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    with the latest saga in my kid's cars. Last month my son was hot-to-trot on a Prius. That's been put on hold, since he's going back to college to take courses he needs in order to pass the M-Cats (sp) to get into medical school.

    Now my daughter's '92 Prelude may have finally bit the dust. The other day I had it towed to our mechanic as oil was flowing out of he engine on to the street (yes -- flowing!), and white smoke was coming out of the exhaust. It needs over $2200 worth or repair (rings and various oil seals) to keep it afloat. So now we may bite the dust and really get her a new car, or a late model used car.

    She drove a new Outback Sport yesterday, and liked it. However, she also drove a new CRV right after the OBS, and just flipped out over it. She flat out loved the interior with all its room, useful features, neat slide-and-fold rear seat, etc. It's more expensive than the OBS, and ABS is not available unless you get the more expensive EX model. We'll see...

    Bob (wishing Fitzgerald had a Honda franchise...)
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Koons Honda used to have a no-haggle policy, but lately I've seen "Call" under prices.

    For $1000 more than an EX, you could get a Forester XT...

    -juice
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    it's for her. Yes, she also likes the Forester, but she love "loves" the Honda.

    Bob
  • locke2clocke2c Member Posts: 5,038
    what's up with NEW cars for both kids? that's nuts.

    btw in case you haven't written off the Prelude yet, white smoke is coolant. coolant doesn't come into the combustion chamber via the rings, it gets there only via the headgasket or a crack in the head or cylinder block. if it has a lot of miles it might benefit from new rings, but you could just have a simple headgasket problem. I don't like headgaskets on hondas but I've had worse. oil flowing out of the engine sounds kinda bad though. :(

    but again-- I wouldn't do the new car thing assuming you are talking about paying for all/most of the vehicles yourself.

    ~c
  • p0926p0926 Member Posts: 4,423
    No way a college student should be driving a FXT. I don't care how responsible he/she is, that's too much power. Besides, it would set a bad precedence and could eventually cause MY rates to go up ;-)

    -Frank P.
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    A Forester XT is not on the horizon for her.

    We've pretty much come to the conclusion that we've put enough money into this car, and really don't trust it any longer.

    As to new vs. used, we're still debating that. I'm hoping the Subie (of some sort) will ultimately win out.

    Bob
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    what's up with NEW cars for both kids? that's nuts

    I respectfully disagree. If we can afford to do this (I don't know that we can), would be my preference. The peace of mind that comes from owning a new car, especially for your child, is as the TV commercial says: "priceless."

    Bob
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Let her get the Honda, if that's what she loves. She'll be the one driving it.

    What about the Element? As a young single, I think it might meet her needs well, and it's cheaper and has more character.

    Element has a real rear bumper, clam shell rear opening (vs. curb-side swing open), and the spare doesn't block your view. Bumper basher tests were much better, just get the side air bags because side-impact protection was poor without them.

    CR-V has had 4 engine fires reported, FWIW. Ask for Sabrina in those topics, she'll tell you more than you ever wanted to know.

    -juice
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    She hates it.

    Bob
  • locke2clocke2c Member Posts: 5,038
    bah, everything has a price but if you're willing to pay it then that's that. :) please don't forget I love to play devil's advocate and argue just for argument's sake.

    this is just a luxury though, not a necessity. in most of this country a reliable car is a requirement-- no question there. but it's a common myth that you have to buy new to have reliability. it's easier to buy new, and more and more people lack the skill to determine what makes a reliable used car-- or the smarts to have it thoroughly inspected by a trusted mechanic before purchase.

    meh, getting off the soapbox now.
    ~c
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Show here these links, though:

    http://www.highwaysafety.org/vehicle_ratings/ce/html/summary_smsu- v_overall.htm

    Poor bumpers plus that spare blocking the rear view might make it a bear to back out of your driveway. It's hard enough with a good view.

    Also Marginal side protection on the LX, but get the EX for the side air bags and ABS. Still, it only protects the torso, Forester protects the head, FWIW.

    NHTSA does give it 20/20 stars, like the Forester.

    Not trying to talk her out of it, she should buy the one she loves, but she should also make an informed decision.

    -juice
  • p0926p0926 Member Posts: 4,423
    Bob- Sorry, I couldn't resist.

    -Frank P.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    My dad was buying a car for my sister, and for a while she was eyeballing an XS Premium!

    The XT wasn't available at the time.

    Any how, she ended up with an X model, which to me makes more sense for a college student. They're used to roughing it out and probably won't appreciate heated seats and mirrors like we would.

    Plus, Bob's wife has a Forester, I doubt the daughter wants to drive the same vehicle.

    I think something compact and efficient would serve her well. I'd suggest you check out both Scions, Mazda3, Matrix, etc. A left over Protoge5 might be a good bargain.

    -juice
  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    The Mazda 3 is going to be a successful vehicle. It looks great and is supposed to handle quite well. Also, at NAIAS, I saw the upcoming Scion coupe. It's supposed to seel for just under 20K and it looked quite nice (and will have Toyota build quality).

    Ken
  • p0926p0926 Member Posts: 4,423
    They're used to roughing it out and probably won't appreciate heated seats and mirrors like we would.

    Back in the day, when I was in college, "roughing it" was a Trailways bus ticket to get home. I can't even comprehend how a brand new car with AC, power everything and AWD could ever remotely qualify as roughing it ;-)

    -Frank P.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    1st car: had to run.

    2nd car: had to run efficiently.

    3rd car: needed A/C and a cassette player and be fun to drive.

    4th car: add power windows and locks, AWD, and ABS.

    5th car: add AWP, 200+ HP, stability and traction control, 6CD changer, alloys, 4 wheel discs, etc.

    We get spoiled with age and want it all. A college student just wants wheels (typically).

    -juice
  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    Does the new Legacy GT offer traction/stability control?

    Ken
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Nope. :-(

    Subaru has to stop viewing these as "premium" features, they aren't. Mazda 3 has them, as does the existing focus. Even the Scion xB.

    -juice
  • bigelmbigelm Member Posts: 995
    got some decent reviews.. I'd check it out.. my sister loves it and plans on getting one.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Its achilles' heel is fuel efficiency, though. For a broke college student, that's tough to overcome.

    -juice
  • p0926p0926 Member Posts: 4,423
    That and at the risk of the pot being accused of calling the kettle black, the Sante Fe looks funny to me (it's those front fender bulges).

    -Frank P.
  • njswamplandsnjswamplands Member Posts: 1,760
  • njswamplandsnjswamplands Member Posts: 1,760
    what happen to the 2 subie rally drivers that lost their lifes?
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Mark Lovell and co-driver Freeman? Pretty sad...

    -juice
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid98/pd02df85e820d81f907dd- b7655913c4d5/fa019fac.jpg

    The longer wheelbase helps a lot, makes the back seat and cargo area more useable.

    Bob thought this might replace the regular Wrangler. I think they'll sell both.

    -juice
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid98/pc1e7f052ae2305d4e97e- ac27269deaa9/fa01a0dd.jpg

    Very cool, looks much better in person when you realize how low to the ground this is. It's soooo low.

    The rear has a glass panel with the logo on it, that logo appears to float in air, it's neat.

    -juice
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid98/p8e84325b50db683a1b99- b71e61d4cf2b/fa01a26d.jpg

    Dunno why they had to put the door pulls vertically. Also had no pass-through at all, not even for skis. Styling is a step up from the current crop, though.

    -juice
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Ken got good pics so I'll show this one of the trunk:

    http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid98/p2d1597400918f1d0216c- 7b8995835769/fa01a36a.jpg

    Those hinges are very neat, and look how wide open it gets. It's not that much cargo space, though, the Legacy GT has more.

    -juice
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid98/pcc57b4aba4d21352daeb- c01cf1cf4597/fa01a39f.jpg

    They really do know how to square off the backs. The wagon looks much roomier than the sedan. The S60 is tight, the S40 is tighter. This V50 looks reasonable.

    -juice
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid98/p39f7cc1e15186319ed4c- 31d3acb55b71/fa01a521.jpg

    Don't say Blackwood. I bet this will have 4WD. It's also a Crew Cab.

    Still, it's just a chrome stripe and Navigator grille on an F-150. I hope it at least gets more engine.

    -juice
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