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I don't have the membership but using my georgia zipcode and American express Car Buying program...the guaranteed price is $37,787 which is below invoice ($38.583).
I am little skeptical about this....do you think i can get that price on 2011's? Any thoughts?
The AMEX service claims you don't have to give out personal info to see the offered price, but that isn't true for all models/years for some reason. For the 2010 G37 I get a quote without all that info, but not for the 2011. Same for the USAA version of the zag service.
Unless I'm missing something, the price quote you get isn't an out-the-door price, and different dealers may have different additional fees to get more profit (like ridiculously high documentation fees of many hundreds of dollars) in the OTD price. This is where that $800 below invoce might not pan out in the end. Ask for an itemized out the door price.
$800 below invoice (assuming no other added profit below the line) isn't a bad price for a 2011, considering it's not even 2011 yet. It's a slightly better price than you'd get if you were a dealer employee with <1yr tenure via VPP Plan E. If you hate haggling it's a great price,
I think it varies for different region as well. Mine is atlanta area and i have used houston and it doesn't show anything saying no dealer is participating in this program. Also, i am aware of the fact that it is not OTD price. and excludes doc fee, TTl, Destination charge and stuff.
I qualify for VPP plan D as well...so i am just exploring all the options.
Do you guys have any info on how these limited Editions are going for? Any input is appreciated.
Thanks
G37 sedan Journey ($35050) + Prm (2150) + Nav (1850) + Sport (2150) = $41,200 so yes the LE is $2200 more.
They select a few dealers around the Nation to input on their website - the lowest amount over invoice we will take on certain models. They then average the numbers together subtract any dealer cash (note the price quoted is not for a lease or using the special rates like 0%) then post them on AMEX, USAA, Overstock, BOA, and whoever else will pay them money....it is a Target Price - it drives traffic. Most dealers will be very close to that price unless they have dealer add ons like tint, pinstripe, etc. Bottom line is it "cuts to the chase" - there will be very little back and forth when you start with a Zag powered price.
So, if the is a $1000 dealer cash - then $800 back of invoice is very possible. There is only $500 dealer cash on 2011 G37 sedans so the price will probably be closer to $200 below invoice.
For a QX, most dealers will dismiss the Zag price....saying in their market they are not doing that "Target Price", for now - that may change in another couple of months when supply and demand even out.
Does it also have the technology package? Aero package? Other options besides just a different paint color and different color seats? Did the LE maybe inherit the 4-wheel steering, which I think was about a $1400 option but that most reviews I read said they didn't see the benefit of it.
On a related note, it appears every dealer is getting at least 2 of these LE sedans, with larger dealers getting more. They don't appear to be hot sellers so far, and who knows, maybe most of them will still be around in the 2nd half of the year and will be heavily discounted with a F2D incentive, which the dealers can choose to pass on, or not.
Sewellgsm: since you guys are one of the highest inventory turnover dealers, how far was it into 2010 before you guys sold all your 2010 anniversary version G37's, which also had the red seats?
Color: Malbec Black
Aero Pkg include Rear Spoiler
Red Leather seats
Illuminated Kick Plate
Impact Sensor
Midnight Grill
Different Wheels (Just a different Shade) but i am not so sure.
These are the changes that i have noticed. If there are any, please add them
Price: $33,000
Tax (9.75%): $3,217.50
Fees: $564.50
****OTD: $36,782
Dealer Invoice $35,122
Dealer MSRP $38,075
Do you mind sharing the dealer contact info? Seems it's worth a trip to travel to Ca.
What about an "acquisition fee"?(didn't notice this was a purchase, not a lease)
I'm planning on getting a 2011 w/ Premium/Nav/Sport soon - glad to see things are looking out there.
As I'm in AZ I'd consider the trip if needed - what dealership?
And congrats!
The $2122 below invoice deal probably made sense to the dealer in the grand scheme of things at that moment in time. Great deals like that usually involve some luck and timing.
Maybe there was a trade-in involved, and they saw much more than the $2122 in profit potential. Maybe it was a demo or something about that particular car was hard to sell at that dealership. Maybe the dealer was one car away from a dealership-wide unit sales threshold that made the difference between getting say 2 or 3 extra new vehicles in their next delivery from the factory, so the price was worth the sacrifice and would be more than made up in the next month. I do think it's safe to say those types of deals are not the norm, and if trade-in/demo weren't part of the equation, you'll have to have luck and timing on your side to match it so early in the model year.
Just my 2 cents worth.
I bought a 2011 G37 journey sedan (black on black), prem + nav (with IKP and carpeted trunk mat/trunk net/first aid kit) two weeks back from Cerritos Infiniti...110-odd miles on it...
On an MSRP of 40470, my OTD was 39K even (price was 35K even)...also got the zero down @0.9% (for 36 months)...
2011 G37x sedan
Moonlight White
Premium Pkg
Performance Tire Pkg
Interior Accents
$34,545 + $875 Freight from a different dealership.
After reading through this forum the past month I started to really learn what a bad deal i got back in the day. I dont really care because the company pays for it, but i still felt like i was run through.
Anyway, in an effort to pay it forward here is the deal i received from Infiniti in SoCal-
2011 G37 Journey Premium, Nav, Illuminated Kick plates and Trunk Mat/cargo net.
MSRP: $40,470.00
Cap Cost: $35525.00
Lease Term: 36 months, 15000 miles/yr
Residual: 61%
Money Factor: .00165
Sales Tax: 9.75%
Monthly Payment: 458.00 (including tax).
So basically its $170/month cheaper than my last car, which was essentially the same car with a longer lease and less miles. I feel good about this deal, and I feel even better when i compare it against my last car lease.
The best quotes I received throughout this process (I was looking at many different car models) were all through Truecar.com. That website is a tremendous asset for car buyers, especially when you combine it with the information that car_man supplies us all with for each months interest and residual numbers for leases.
Happy shopping.
B
price: $37,800
Tax: $3,053.36 (8% + use tax)
Fees: $299.38
***OTD: $41,152.74
MSRP: $42,675
Invoice: $39,195
Financed with 0.9% for 36 months offer, $0 down.
Berman's Infiniti of Chicago (downtown).
Was surprised that I did not get the best price in person, but rather when started calling local dealerships, and asking to match an offer from one another. :confuse:
This thread was a lot of help! Thanks everyone for sharing!
2011 Shadow gray 4dr journey rwd
Technology pkg
Premium pkg
Sport pkg
Nav pkg
Interior accent pkg
So far I have negotiated $38,945
(before tax, doc, fees).
They're willing to do this price now without further negotiation and will also get me out of my current g35 lease (2 months left) without early penalty). I was trying to go a bit lower... ($38,145) but didn't push too hard yet (they said they'd do the lower price but then I would owe my final two lease payments (which basically makes it a wash).
Given their current offer, do you think I'll be able to do much better or is this already really good? I can wait the two months but I'm not opposed to grabbing this now if it's a great deal...
Any insight on reasonable ranges or doc / dealer fees? CA tax either way
Thanks!
I don't believe the dealer is doing you any favors since it's an Infiniti program, not a dealer program.
So assuming I am eligible for the early lease turn in (without penalty), the deal I can get $38,945 (without haggling further that is) still seems to be a pretty good deal?
According to ZAG that's $1,200 below invoice as is (but I hear ZAG has some dealer compensation built in to their pricing).
I'm *not* trying to screw the guy at the dealer (I actually bought a car from him once before, I don't mind him making a little money after all). I'm just trying to find out whether my deal is in the amazing / good category or just "ok" at this point and whether I should be pushing for something a lot lower or am I there if I can push them to the $38,145 (which would be $2,000 below invoice according to ZAG).
There are two incentives posted a $1000 owner loyalty and a $500 dealer incentive. Based on this an invoice deal less the incentives would be $37,042. The deal you have on the table translates to a selling price of $40,445 or a discount of $1580. Which isn't that great considering a spread of $3500 between MSRP and the posted invoice (42,025-38,542= 3483).
When I leased our 35XS in 2008 we netted a deal $150 under invoice before rebates, etc. I'm in CT. Your tx is what it is, Doc fees vary by state, CT for example is $299-499, But our last several vehicles are purchased/leased in NY and we pay a $45 doc fee. I personally have issues with high doc fees to process paperwork, etc.
Shoot for an invoice deal less the $1500 in rebates. The turn in of your lease early is an option extended to you from Infiniti. Call them to verify you can pull ahead your lease if you lease or purchase a new Infiniti. I doubt the dealer is doing you an favors on this part of the deal.
That said, on both edmunds.com and Zag (through my AMEX card) I'm seeing invoice on this config @ $40,145.
(2011 Journey w/ tech, nav, prem and sport packages).
I thought the $1,000 incentive is for leasing only (I will be purchasing, sorry I should have clarified that) so I believe the only incentive available to be is the $500 off.
The price I have been quoted by them @ $38,945, is *before* any incentives. Am I missing something or did you miss something on the config / invoice pricing?
Documentation fees are a "below the line" dealer fee (an extra place to add in profit). They vary by dealer. What varies by state is there is sometimes a *maximum amount* the law allows them to charge (but most states have no limit).
It's definitely worth finding out early what the dealer you are working with charges for doc fees. Once you get a bottom line price (not counting taxes, license, registration) and if it is say $1500 below invoice, and the doc fee is $500, your deal is essentially $1000 below invoice (i.e. add the doc fee back in)
They are negotiable, but that doesn't mean you will be successful in negotiating them down.
PS, zillerkaz: $40145 is the invoice figure I get too (including $875 dest fee and the interior accent package which you apparently have to get if you get the tech package)
Sorry about the numbers before (yes, I missed something). It appears I didn't check a box, and I have the same numbers you have at invoice of $40,145 on Edmunds including destination.
It looks like a great deal, just confirm their fees (doc) and is destination is included, if you get the $500 dealer cash, etc.
Any idea what I should be looking for on lease deals for leftover 2010 G convertibles?
Thanks
wanted folks opinion on whether the deal im getting is good and if i can do better.
this is for a 2011 G37 sedan w/ premium + nav + accent package + upgraded tires.
MSRP = 41220, Invoice = 37850. Nissan VPP Price ( A PLAN) = 36230
basically getting it for 5k less than msrp and 1750 less than invoice. Also getting 0.9% apr for 36 months.
anyone think i can get a better deal on a 2011 G37 sedan ?
thanks
Have people gotten better deals this early in the model year? Yes, but not many. You're probably in the top 5-10% of deals with that package.
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I have settled on purchasing a G25 Journey but have a few questions I would like answered before I pull the trigger - please post if you can advise.
1. In California it appears the G25 Journey (MSRP $32,350) is the base model and you can't get the plain old G25 (MSRP $30,950). I'm okay with this as I need the Bluetooth and I like the heated seats, I am just looking for clarification.
2. For pricing, using MSRP do my calculations look about right for OTD:
Price $32,350.00
Destination $875.00
Tax (9.25%) $2,992.38
License/Reg (from Cal DMV site) $464.03
DMV Document Fee (dealers may charge up to $45) $45.00
CA Tire Recycle Fee (fixed) $8.75
Total $36,726.40
3. Regarding the Destination of $875, do Infiniti dealers always charge this or do they have room to move.
4. My target OTD is $33K or less - am I out of my mind or is this doable on the right day?
Thanks!
The $875 dest fee is a factory charge (it's on the sticker), so the dealer is paying (financing) it too. It's no doubt set to be sure the factory doesn't lose money on transport charges on average, but I wouldn't use it as a negotiating point (not directly). Consider the price as a bundle, including options and the dest fee, and decide based on that.
carsdirect.com is selling G25 Journey for $29.9K including destination in 92626 zipcode (Mission Vejio Southern CA)
You probably can knock ~ $200 to $500 = 29.5K
add approx 10% to TTL = OTD ~33K
Not a unreasonable target IMHO.
I'll post the results on the forum.
see:
http://www.insidenissan.com/monthly_abplan_infiniti.html
click on 2011 models.
Does this also go through 1/3/2011?
Interested in a 2010 or 2011 g37x w/premium & navigation, 39 month, 12,000 a year lease information.
Thanks for any help.
After all, Tis' the season to give
OTD = $36998
Tradein = $1500 (99 Maxima with 178k)
Dealer = Infiniti of Gwinnett (Atlanta Georgia)
This seems like a descent price based on the VPP information.
G25X w/ moonroof & color match slpash guards OTD...$33676
Lostion South Jersy
No luck finding labeled pics on the infiniti website. If anyone has links to pics of these various wheels, could you post them?
For example, are the (split 5-spoke) wheels in this pic the ones in the R01 package?
http://www.infinitiusa.com/g_sedan/
Thanks for all the help!
38k. is it reasonable price?
if not what is best price? i'm thinking about under 32k.
thanks Dave
2011 G37x AWD Sedan - Graphite Shadow
Premium Package - Sport Package - Splash Guards, Trunk Mat/Net/First-Aid Kit
(No Navigation Package)
MSRP - $41,190
Sale Price - $35,108
OTD - $36,660
Car was bought from Infiniti of Chantilly in Virginia. Very knowledgable and friendly staff, I would highly recommend them to anyone in the area. Splash guards and trunk accessories were already included on the car when it was delivered, this is pretty much standard for all G37x's in the DC area.
You've got very low TTL there as well.
Anybody have a VPP code I can use?