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Anita
The salesperson said that Infiniti is discontinuing the cloth sedan. Anyone else hear the same thing?
The dealer I was dealing with here in Mass. said the same thing about MSRP. They don't need to move on it since it's selling like hotcakes, I guess.
Also, this dealer is getting all the G35's with sunroofs so the minimum price for a G35 at this dealer will be 30,495. Add tax and registration to that and you got yourself a pretty expensive car. So much for a deal (but I still think it's worth it)!
I have also contacted Kirkland regarding VPP...they said they are a participant of the VPP program, (without knowing that I'm looking for a G35) they told me that G35 is excluded from their VPP program.
So, I guess we are on the boat, let me know if you hear otherwise in Oregon.
Anita
I finished the break-in on my car this weekend with a 300 mile round trip. The car is not flawless, but it is an incredible bargain at the price.
If I can, then I'm picking mine up in Nov. Getting a cloth means no sunroof or other features, but at that price I think you get a great combination of power and luxurious feel. I've been driving a 96 Pontiac so I can live without all those doo-dads...
BTW- confused what to buy, I go around on the G35 v. 325i v. A4 1.8t - all in auto since I recently moved back to so. cal. and traffic. I currently drive audi TT and love it but need back seat room for young kids getting bigger. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
re: space - the G is bigger than the 3 series IIRC, but I don't know about the A4.
Is that money worth losing a sale over? I would think that if they're selling so many, $700-1000 off isn't going to matter. Maybe I'm missing something.
Remember, your warranty won't even kick in for 4 years, and about 5 years on the really expensive stuff like transmission/engine repairs.
So you've really bought yourself a 30K mile, 2 year warranty, and prepaid for it 4-5 years in advance. No wonder they gave you a "deal" on it. They're not risking much.
The future value (if you invested it instead) of that cash you've tied up will be more like $1400 by the time you can use the warranty. Therefore, you'll have to have repairs that total more than $1400 during the last 2-3 years of ownership for you to even break even.
You may not still own the vehicle at that time, but even if you do, the odds are against you making your money back. Obviously so, since they sell them to make a profit.
I would strongly suggest checking your policy papers to see if you can get a refund if its unused. It pays to read them carefully. I bought a BMW with a 100K warranty the previous owner had paid $2400 for. Luckily I read the contract carefully and received an $850 refund on the unused portion when I sold the car at about 80K miles. After subtracting that windfall, I got to drive a '98 BMW 540i sport 6 speed for a year for only about $2200 in depreciation!
1. HP isn't everything. It's how it's applied that matters. G35 0-60mph in 6.2 sec. 300M 0-60mph in about 7.7 seconds. 1.5 seconds. That's about like the difference in a Corolla and your 300M.
2. Handling and Ride. G35 is better, period.
3. Braking. G35 111 ft. from 60mph, that's sports car numbers.
300M does it in 136 ft! My Toyota Tundra Pickup Truck brakes better than that.
4. Transmission, refinement, smoothness, fit n' finish. G35, again by a mile.
5. Styling? Subjective, but the 300M looks pretty bloated and whale-like from some angles. "Good for an American car" is about the best I've heard of it. The G35 needs some rear end help, but they do seem to get looks on the road. The G35 interior is only decent, but the 300M has a lot of plasticy parts as well.
6. Quality. Infiniti vs. Chrysler? Hahaahahaha. I owned a Dodge, I know better.
7. Value: The 300M costs the same or more, but check out that resale value! Ouch. The G35 should resale well, especially as its reputation spreads.
8. Warranty; 60K/70K for the G35 vs. 36K for the 300M. And when it's out of warranty, which car would you rather be paying the repair bills on?
9. Safety. Mediocre test scores(at best) for the 300M. The G35 has done excellent in Japanese tests and is expected to be a top pick in US tests. It's also a more modern design, and safety is getting better every year on all cars.
10. Ownership experience. Infiniti dealers are consistently ranked near or at the top in customer satisfaction. Chrysler closer to the bottom. I also will get a free loaner for warranty AND maintenance visits with an Infiniti. The Chrysler dealer might let me use the phone to call a cab.
A few years ago, the 300M was a decent alternative to more expensive foreign machines (even though poor resale and relibility actually made it nearly as expensive as some priceier cars to own). But with the G35 priced so low and delivering so much, you'd have to just prefer American cars for personal reasons to choose one over the G35.
Silver color
Leather
Premium package
Sport Package
Bose System
Sunroof
Spoiler
Cold weather package(I wasn't looking for this, but it had it on it)
He said the MSRP was $34,700, and that all they were taking off was $500. To make an already long story short, I went back and forth with him about another dealer, and they eventually agreed to take $2,000 off MSRP, making the total for this car $32,700. I think I got a very good deal since both dealers I spoke with said they were only taking $500 off, but I played them back and forth and got what I thought was good.
premium
winter/sport
power sunroof
bose
aero (spoiler)
xenon
That equates to roughly $1,100 off MSRP. When I see scenarios like bdywax's, it makes me rethink my negotiating skills. I understand that this is a hot car, but in the end I'd like to get the best deal possible. If you got a better deal, and don't mind helping me out, could you post the dealership and the salesman? Thanks.
btw, what is this Costco program that everyone is talking about?
tkman - your price isn't bad either -
the $2k deal is rare. It also depends on where you live and the local supply. When I ordered my G I got a good deal, but not as good as $2k since the dealer had about 10 on his lot. When I went back a month later there were only 3 others on the lot and they were back up near MSRP b/c the supply got tighter. July was the best month of sales for the G.
regarding costco - check out http://www.costcoauto.com
Premium Pkg (P01)
Suspension Pkg (T01)
Winter Pkg (X02)
Moon Roof (J01)
Headlamp (N01)
If you got a good deal, let me know...I need a vacation...
Anita
I think you got a great deal. I test drive the G35 couple weeks ago at Crest and I love it. I do notice there's quite a few cars on the lot and I think the price should come down from MSRP eventually.
If you don't mind, can you tell me which dealership you get your sweet deal from?
I personally recommend you go to Sewell Infiniti if you're going to buy one. They are known for taking care of their customers very well. If you bring your car in for service and need a loner, they give you another Infiniti at no charge.
I had also spoken to Crest Infiniti, and the guy there said they would be what ever offer Sewell made by $500. I told my guy this and that's what allowed me to work it up to $2k...BUT, and I say BUT, when I went there this morning my guy at Sewell told me they talked to the Sales Mgr. at Crest Infiniti, and he said he did tell me that he would beat their offer by $500, but told my guy he said that just to get me in the door, and that they wouldn't have honored it. I think that is total cr*p, and that's why I highly recomend Sewell over Crest. They were up front the whole time.
Good luck
Kevin owes you a free detailing. After I saw your post this morning, I gave Kevin a call. At 2:30 PM, my wife and I had picked up the exact same car. We didn't get as great a deal as you did, but it was a good deal nonetheless.
Kevin was a great person to deal with, no deception or games. He gave us an aggressive price and the most on our trade in. (I could tell you horror stories of other dealers' appraisals.) Probably the most important part was that he was honest. I've spent the last week going back and forth negotiating with other dealers. Kevin was right to the point and gave aggressive numbers. There was no pressure or hassle and the service was top notch, I wish all car purchases could go this well. He actually regretted not having the chance to go through his normal sales pitch on the car (we already knew everything about the car).
You can reach Kevin at the following number (973) 361-6700. If you decide to go with him, tell him Dan & Wendy sent ya, this way we can get a free detailing.
With your stories in mind, I went to two dealerships in the Atlanta area recently. I was seeking a G35 with sunroof and Premium package. Dealer #1 (the losers) only had my car with the wood trim and Xenon lights. My offer to split the difference on these "extras" that I did not want was met with a "no can do". Undaunted, I walked right out having given them what I considered a fair shot. Later that day, went to another dealer with less name recognition. Again, their car had the "extras"; however, we negotiated down to a price of $31,500. I left feeling very good about my investment, and they sold a car! Win-win.
So be encouraged if you're in the throes of negotiation and know that THEY WILL DO THE DEAL. Just be patient!
They don't want my money, that's ok, I bought from Dallas...
Anyone else think that more deals may abound on the sedan in the fall, after the release of the hot looking coupe? More ads for the G35 are starting to pop up on TV - is this to generate some interest that might be currently lagging?
Anita
By the way: he also told me that coupe prices would be about the same as the sedan and would max out at $36K. Great news if it's true!
leather
sport pkg
trunk mat
sunroof
aero kit (rear spoiler)
paid $30,150 before tax & title. got the car for $1400 under MSRP after 3 hours of negotiations. MSRP was $31,550. love the car after 3 weeks of driving but i still feel like i could've got a better deal, i guess thats just the competitive nature in me.
Twilight Blue
Willow Leather
Premium Package
Winter Package
Xenons
Sunroof
Extended Wood Package
Lo-jack
Wheel Locks
Driving back to D.C. was pure pleasure. The ride was so smooth that you have to actually check your speed once in a while because you don't realize you're going as fast as you are. The bose radio, more specifically the cd changer, was on the entire 8 hours 45 minutes and had no distortion or troubles of any kind. The mileage was a little lower than I would have liked but I would assume that was due to the speeds I was travelling. I am testing it now to determine what my actual mileage is going to be like. I've never been so happy to make that drive before, that the next day I was telling someone about my ride and then I found myself saying that I wanted to go back and do it again tomorrow. Since I have been back, two other G35 owners have either waved or stopped to say hello. I'm starting to think this is a club like BMW has going on. Kinda cool.