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Chevy Silverado



  • i'm considering purchasing an 03 2500 hd with 6.0 eng. 4.10 gears and auto trans. can anyone tell about the performance of this pkg. such as the ability to maintain speed up long gradual inclines without downshifting. is this a good engine? does it have more than average power? should i opt for the 8.0 the truck wont be used for towing. any help will be greatly appreciated.
  • mledtjemledtje Posts: 1,123
    I have a 2500 with the 6.0L engine and 3.73 gears. It always has a popup camper in the bed and still pulls long, gradual inclines without shifting. With the camper, I think the 4.10 would be a better choice. Without a camper I think you'll be happy with the power of the 6.0 engine.

    We noticed a significant increase in power after about 10K miles. Before that, it needed a downshift on some hills that it will now pull.

    Enjoy your truck!

    Mike L
  • texsuntexsun Posts: 23
    It depends on whether your concerned more about power or gas mileage. Want higher gas mileage, go with the 6.0, more power, go with the 8.1.

    You say you're not towing, so I would go with the 6.0 with 3.73 gears if available. It will be plenty of truck!

    I have a 6.0, auto, 3.42 gears. Plenty of power and reasonable mileage. 14 city/16 hwy
  • ryanbabryanbab Posts: 7,240
    a 6.0 with 3.42 gears???

    Are you sure about that?
  • sonjaabsonjaab Posts: 1,057
    I have a 01 Chevy x-cab LD 6.0, 4:10s. I plow,
    tow a 29 ft. camper, and a 32 ft. wellcraft
    boat on a BIG hydralic trailer (Just to get it
    from storage to the water for the summer. Cops
    don't bother ya in the 1000 islands about over-
    width--length BS.) I just push the tow haul
    button and let that bad boy do its thing.
    Well its snowing cats and dogs here for days in
    Syracuse NY area...Time to plow some more snow !
    Make some $$$$$$.................geo
  • texsuntexsun Posts: 23
    ryanbab - ya got me!

    Should have known you or obyone would. The 3.42 was on my '99 Sierra SLT EXT SB, with 5.3, auto.

    Knew as soon as I posted that didn't look right, but was on my way out the door to work....(my excuse anyway)

    My '02 Sierra 1500 HD CC SLT SB has the 6.0, auto, 3.42 w/locking rear diff - and plenty of power pulling a 26' Trail-Lite across the hills of central Texas. :-)
  • balichbalich Posts: 62
    Does anybody hear squeaking from the steering
    wheel when you are turning it .. its sounds like
    rubber on rubber squeaking noise ?

    Thanks in advance!
  • I have a 02 silverado ls with a very faint and intermittent steering wheel squeak. Most probably something is not lubricated correctly.
  • ryanbabryanbab Posts: 7,240
    steering wheel squeek = steering shaft needs lubing
  • texsuntexsun Posts: 23
    Mine started after the dealer replaced the steering shaft at the 22,500 service. But a rub sound, not squeak. Back at 6000 miles, they jacked the left side up level by adjusting the left torsion bar - left side sat 1 inch lower than right. After that fix, I had a 'knock' when turning hard right or left. They lubed it and it went away for a while. Came back and I just dealt with it in between lubes. Last visit (25,000)they lubed the shaft, but rub is still there.

    Ryan - as to #546 - I have 3.42 on the brain. I have 3.73 gears, not 3.42 with the 6.0.
  • mpurpmpurp Posts: 16
    I notice while looking at the new Silverados Ext cab that gas milage is the same for both 4.8 and 5.3 liter engines, 15 city, 20 Freeway. Does any body know how much less MPG one gets with the 4.10 gears compared with the 3.73 gears. I will not be towing more then 4000 lbs fully loaded a few times a year, so I guess 3.73 gear would be ok. But the extra 1000 lbs of towing capacity with 4.10 gears would be nice to have.
  • ryanbabryanbab Posts: 7,240
    15 city and 20 highway??? Is that for a 2wd?

    I am currently getting 10-12 city and 12-15 highway. My highest milage is 19.5 this past summer through the mountains in NC. THis is on a 5.3 with the 3.73 Z71. Also if you are going to go with larger tires get the 4.10 to compensate.
  • mledtjemledtje Posts: 1,123
    Mileage for 3.73 and 4.10 final drive will be about the same.

    It takes the same amount of power to move the truck with either gear; the same amount of power takes the same amount of fuel; the cpu will control the fuel injection to optimize the mixture.

    The 4.10 may deliver slightly (0.1mpg) lower economy due to higher friction losses from higher engine speeds. Of course, the 4.10 may deliver slightly better economy (0.1mpg) due operating closer to the torque peak. All in all, it is a wash and the mileage varies more from identical truck to identical truck than it varies from final drive ratio.

    Mike L
  • mpurpmpurp Posts: 16
    Thanks for the reply, Mike did you mean to say that it take the same amount of energy to move the truck. It has been years since I have been in school but for Power it is the energy transfer per unit of time. I have to think about this some more...
  • If you want power/torque AND mileage, get the Duramax.

    Mike .T.
  • mledtjemledtje Posts: 1,123
    It doesn't make any difference if you want to think about the amount of energy to go 65mph, or the amount of power to drive that speed for 3 hours. The answer is the same.

    Mike L
  • babybbabyb Posts: 18
    My father recently purchased a 2003 2500HD crew cab, long box. It is in for the third time with the 4X4 Service light on. Has anyone had any problems like this? Chevy cannot see to find anything to fix it.
  • Does anyone else have this set-up? The best mileage I can get is 8 around town and 10 on the open road, I had a 97 454 auto 3.73 4x4 and could get 16 on the open road, just wondering if anyone else seems to have the same problem? Thanks, Suburbansrule
  • I am getting ready to change the air filter in my 2000 2500 rado. I would welcome any input on whether it is worth the bucks to get a performance filter vs an OEM filter??
  • obyoneobyone Posts: 8,054
    Black '00 2500 rado. If you're planning on waiting another three years to change again, I'd say it doesnt really matter which one to get cause they both going to be plugged anyway.
  • texsuntexsun Posts: 23
    I installed the K&N Generation II FIPK in my '02 1500HD and definitely think it was worth the bucks for improved performance.($250.00)

    My brother installed the K&N factory replacement ($45.00) in his '02 1500 HD 'Rado and is impressed with the improvement over OEM. OEM filter from dealer is appr $32.00. K&N is worth the extra $.
  • txyank1txyank1 Posts: 1,010
    in OEM vs K&N when new. But as they get dirty the K&N will flow more air than OEM.
  • ryanbabryanbab Posts: 7,240
    have you talked to our pnemonia stricken friend lately? :) Wonder if that cabin filter ever got changed???
  • I have had a 2500HD Duramax Diesel 2002 since 6/02. Since then I have experienced intermittent power steering & brake failure simultaneously. This has occurred 4 times. The truck has been towed once. The other 3 times the truck has done this, I have turned the truck off, rocked the wheel back and forth and finally power steering & brakes "kick in."

    The local dealer has replaced the power steering pump once. Their answer as to why this has happened 3 times since is that "the line is contaiminated."

    Has anyone ever had something like this to happen? Any ideas?

  • arttartt Posts: 14
    Letter received 2/27/03 FYI.

    Central Office
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    February, 2003

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  • obyoneobyone Posts: 8,054
    Haven't spoken to him lately. I'd definitely bet against it being changed. In fact I'd bet he misplaced it somewhere by now.
  • Does anyone else have this set-up? The best mileage I can get is 8 around town and 10 on the open road, I had a 97 454 auto 3.73 4x4 and could get 16 on the open road, just wondering if anyone else seems to have the same problem? Thanks, Suburbansrule
  • noobie1noobie1 Posts: 326
    I have the X-Cab. Most of my driving is long distance, maybe 15% stop & go. Currently at 24K. 11.5 combined. The closer I get to all hyway, the closer it gets to 13. I've averaged as much as 16 at high altitude. I'd definitely look into having it checked out. Pulling the plugs or having your exhaust analyzed to determine mixture correctness seems like a good place to start. How many miles on your truck?

  • hknoepflehknoepfle Posts: 45
    I believe that driving conditions and milage are primary factors in air filter performance and longevity. So.... if I wait until, whenever, to change my filter 'trust me, I know what I am doing", quote detective Dick! Later, Mr. K
  • kg11kg11 Posts: 530
    '01 2500HD x-cab 4x4 8.1 Allison 4.10 I always get over 13 hwy.I get about 10 combined(about 50/50)I've never driven just in town but I'm sure it wouldn't be good with my lead foot and all.

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