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Subaru Crew Problems & Solutions



  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I wonder if the smell is actually the undercoating overspray burning off the exhaust? I had that for the first month or two.

  • jlemolejlemole Posts: 345
    There have been quite a few posts concerning a "burning" smell on new Subies. It's been attributed to undercoating, differential break-in and, in my case, the dealer told me it was leaky front axle seals causing axle lube to drip and burn off. Whatever it is, it seems alot of us have experienced some unusual odor early on in our Subies' lives.

  • fargfamfargfam Posts: 30
    Hi all. I'm wondering just how well the side mirror heaters are supposed to work. I have '03 XS and thought the heated mirrors would at least dry the rain collected on the mirrors, but noticed no difference when on. My '95 Trooper practically "boils" the water off. Anyone else notice their heated mirrors working on their Forester?

  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I've ridden in Bob's Forester several times, including a couple of road trips to PA and NY, and in the rain the mirrors clear right up when you turn on the heat. I was very impressed!

    Yours may not be working properly.

  • fargfamfargfam Posts: 30
    Thanks Juice. I'll take it in next week and see if they can find anything.
  • And I'm the idiot. Pulled into my driveway today and decided it was time to wash my GT. I backed down the long sloping driveway a bit, got out, opened the tailgate to remove some stuff and then went to get my car cleaning gear. As I exit the garage I see my Legacy just impacting the side of my neighbor's new extended cab Chevy PU that was parked across the street. Doh!

    I mean... engaging the parking brake and leaving it in gear is so second nature I can't believe I didn't do it. My GT suffered relatively minor damage to the tune of $1k. That's for a bumper and it's internals, bumper cover and interior trim panel for tailgate. I guess I was lucky the tailgate was open as it suffered no sheetmetal damage at all. Just the inside trim (tailight access) got cracked when it slammed down on the PU.

    The Chevy is much worse off. No estimate yet as the neighbor is still not home. But the rear small door on the drivers side is toast. As is the rocker panel and lower rear edge of the cab body.

  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    The Subie won that fight. ;-)

    Bummer, but we all make mistakes, and yours won't turn out to be that bad, all things considered. Noone was hurt.

  • c_hunterc_hunter Posts: 4,487
    From one idiot to another, sorry to hear about your accident. I've had a couple of close calls -- guess I've just been lucky. Sometimes it's too easy to get your mind focused on the dumbest things and forget to park the car!

  • Yeah well... I was a bit distracted. In fact I was trying to distract myself by washing the car. My wife, a friend and I all got sucker punched by a rogue wave on Sunday. We were out on the jetty facing the Pacific and well away from the surf. We got blindsided and my wife got pulled about 20 yards into the surf. In the process she blew out her knee. So I have been taking care of her round the clock and needed a little escape. This was unfortunately more than I was looking for.

    Just checked the Chevy truck again. Seems like I bent the lower side edge of the box too. Tough truck.

    Still no neighbor.

  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    At the chat you mentioned he was pretty understanding.

    I now recall, one time I parked my '91 Escort GT, walked outside later and it had rolled to the other side of the street! Luckily a curb stopped it, and there was zero damage.

    Dumb luck, I tell ya.

  • amsbearamsbear Posts: 147
    I had one too. Great little car! Just the right blend of Mazda engineering and aFordability.

    Alan - Missing my 5speed :(
    98 OBW Ltd
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Good powertrain, at least. It had the revvy 1.8l from the Protoge of that era, 127hp and decent torque for its size.

    My interior had things falling off once in a while, and my A/C died twice, but the powertrain ran 107k miles without even burning any oil.

  • goosegoggoosegog Posts: 206
    Fargfam; The heated mirrors on my 00 OB have no effect on raindrops. But they do melt frost and ice, and they get rid of the dew/condensation that collects when parked.
  • Yeah the neighbor is great. He really took it well. Still no estimate on the trucks damage but I am still amazed. The truck really looks bad but my Legacy looks barely scratched. I crawled in, around and under it and all I can see is the bumper damage. All panels are straight and fit looks like new. No noticeable damage to unibody. No obvious misalignment of anything underneath. Even the tailgate fits straight despite being open and putting a dent in the top of the trucks cab.

    Funny. I feel lucky.

  • my 99 ob has had a whining noise and now i see spots of oil under the vehicle. traced the oil to the transmission pan. tranny oil level is ok, front differential oil is very low. looks like a diff. problem & i have an appointment with the dealer next week-wondering how much this might cost. anyone have any ideas? thanks!
  • ebony5ebony5 Posts: 142
    I never thought to use heated mirrors for only rain, but in last nights rain I used the system in my '96 Outback it definately made a differance. That is why I like checking out these forums;even if there is nothing radically wrong I have learned many valuable bits of information.
  • hypovhypov Posts: 3,068
    If the rain is coming down from the back, the heated mirror won't do much or nothing. Otherwise, it works great and I miss it. :(

  • idahodougidahodoug Posts: 537
    glad things are working out on this fluke - hope your wife recovers fully too. Knees are nothing to be ignored.

    On the damage and the truck's "weakness", note that your vehicle's strongest exterior surface went against its weakest. Sheetmetal vs a bumper produces a predictable result even if it's a Geo Metro vs a Suburban.

    I would have the Sube very carefully checked over by a really good shop. An impact that heavy with the hatch open can produce some stress risers that would not have happened with the structural assistance of the hatch being in place. Glad nobody was hurt.

  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Maybe size doesn't matter? LOL

    I mean, your structure must be stiffer, at least at the point of impact. I thought heavier objects were supposed to "win" those fights, but not in this case.

  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    chilmark: first I'd heard of a gear oil leak. Hmm, that stuff is very thick, so that may be why it's so rare. You sure it's not engine oil from the back of the engine block, perhaps spilling on the tranny?

  • lakepoplakepop Posts: 221
    Well since the Sube was moving and the truck stationary......we get to the :
           force= weight x speed squared

    The poor truck took a pretty good shot depending on how fast the Suby got moving down the slope prior to impact. Amplified by the size of the impacting point.

    OK....just a comment.....GO SUBY!
  • I don't know about that idahodaug, I backed into an F150 at <5mph and cracked the front bumper. It wasn't an offset impact either, it was my sube's rear bumper straight into his front. $400+ just for the bumper on the ford. no damage except a two new scratch marks in the plastic bumper cover for the sube. HAHA! I still get a kick at the look of amazment on the Ford driver's face when he compare the damage to his truck vs my sube. (not that I am happy I got into the fender bender in the first place)

  • nygregnygreg Posts: 1,936
    Just stopping in to say hello! Been reading the board, but, haven't had much to contribute. Very busy getting ready for winter too. Sorry to hear about your mishap Bit.

  • I do worry about there being unseen damage. The visual inspections the body shops have done looked for stress marks, cracked paint and misaligned panels but found none. Infact it seems the bumper deflection made no noticeble contact with the sheetmetal. Once the bumper cover is removed more damage might be evident. We even went over the tailgate with a fine tooth comb since it was open and did put a dent in the top of the PU cab. The only damage to the tailgate is a slight scuff on the interior trim. But overall the gate fits perfectly and there is no sign of stress either on the exterior or at the attachment points.

    It still is amazing that the point of contact worked out so well in my favor. Seeing how the truck is a Silverado 4X4 and sits high(ish) and I have a Legacy and not the higher OB. Contact was mainly between right side of my rear bumper and just above the lower door edge of the truck. Additional contact was from the rest of my bumper and the cab body and bed.

    I suppose I could have it checked on a frame machine... or maybe get a 4 wheel alignment just to check.

    Thanks for all the replies.

  • hondafriekhondafriek Ottawa CanadaPosts: 2,976
    just my 2 cents, but after what you went through with the sunroof on your first GT you do not need all the second guessing that you are getting now.

     If on close inspection everything looks okay it probably is, even though the tailgate was open it is hardly likely that the car was rolling fast enough to do massive hidden damage.

      I would venture to say that I am at least as fussy as you with my car, and this impact would hardly cause me to lose any sleep, fix it and forget it.

      Cheers Pat.
  • Have looked through postings for other issues and found success. Hope that someone will be kind enough to help me out.

    Am owner of Forester ( 2000) . Have a terrible rattle in dash ( right side ) . Was there since 2600 clicks. Dealer cannot seem to fix it. Now it is evident on left side ( but not as pronounced) and on occasion in the centre of the dash.

    Noise seems to be near the front part of the dash( near the windshield) .

    Noise is very loud when going over rough pavement.( sounds like two pieces hitting together really fast almost not secured ). Does not have to even be that rough ( could be as slight as a manhole cover or joint on the highway). Is noticeable when driving normal city speed( 50 km and above ) but is slowly starting to become evident at slower speed if the road is extremely rough.

    Typically, the dealer cannot duplicate the sound. One dealer told me that he heard it but did not know what it was. Nice!!!

    Have removed everything from glove box -- noise still persists.

    Any help / thoughts / solutions would be greatly appreciated.
  • Thanks. Means a lot coming from you. I did my best "OCD" routine already on this one and am happy with what I see.

    But now I gotta pick the body shop to do the work. The big fancy shop, the shop the Soob dealer uses or the small 2 person shop that also did some of the nice street rods in town. The latter getting the largest number of positive referrals. But then again ts only the bumper...

  • rob999rob999 Posts: 233
    My OB had a rattle up in the same area. It was the connection between the vent grille and the HVAC duct pipe.

    Find a rough road and have your front passenger (unless you have long arms and can reach) press on the vent grille to see if the timbre of the vibration changes at all. That may be the problem.

    I popped the plastic vent grille out. It's shaped like a funnel, where the small end connects to the supply pipe and the large end opens up into the grille. I folded some electricians tape into the inside of the small end to ensure a tighter fit and that took care of the problem.

    If you take the vent grill out, also check any wiring harness(es) behind there to make sure that they're not rattling against the ductwork or back side of the glove box. Tape or tie-wrap as required. That may have been a contributor to my dash rattle as well - I taped down part of a loose harness that was just behind the vent grille.
  • c_hunterc_hunter Posts: 4,487
    If it makes you feel any better, you could try to reproduce part of the crash -- just to see how fast the car was rolling when it gets to where the truck was (just STAY IN THE CAR this time around!). My bet is that it was not rolling too fast.

    The parts on the truck were sheet metal, and the wagon's back bumper is pretty solid (beam+foam+cover). It makes sense to me that the truck had a lot of damage and, in direct correspondance, that the wagon had very little. I think the truck's sheet metal dissipated most of the crash energy. The foam under the wagon's bumper may have been compressed, but I bet that's the extent of the "hidden" damage. If the car drives straight and all the doors and hatch operate correctly, that's a very good sign.

  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    The reason the ford took on more damage was that trucks don't have 5mph bumpers. My trooper has a paper thin steel or aluminum beam behind the plastic bumper. When I took it off to put on my ARB it was about 5-10lbs max. Now if you hit that F150 at say 25mph, I'd not want to be in the subie personally.

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