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Jim
Cheers Pat.
Greg
Patti
I guess my car port is a good compromise. You're sheltered from rain and snow, but it's not heated.
-juice
In general, the auto tranny is very robust. The same unit handles 300hp in WRXs reliably. The 5 speeds supposedly only handle 250hp or so, so the auto is actually more robust.
-juice
I have a 2000 S with AT and am curious as well. Please keep us posted.
Ed
Cheers Pat.
Patti
Felt like the transmission was going. Once I knew what it was I was more comfortable selling the car to a friend (but I will never sell a car to someone I know again!).
Ralph
It worked, and the car is again silent and easy to turn sharply. So, if you are experiencing this - another data point for you.
IdahoDoug
PS - Paul: Yep, got the Alpins down this evening and they'll likely be on this week. First I'll put them on the Family Truckster (LandCruiser) as the top priority..
Also, folks, check your battery's water level. I was pretty surprised when I used almost half a gallon of distilled water to refill my battery and the one on my wife's car.
Maintenance-free is not maintenance-free.
-juice
-juice
I was going up a slight rise over a drain cover and minor road rash at about 30 mph, applied the brakes, felt the ABS pulse but the brakes had no bite. I felt like I was sliding on ice. Thankfully, the car in front of me started moving before I hit it. I must say it's a very disturbing experience, sure got my heart rate up.
Did you pump the brake once? Supposedly that regains braking power.
Check your tires to be sure they're all inflated properly and wearing evenly. Differences could confuse the ABS.
-juice
I just had the oil changed last week, also checked the tires.
I only have 6500 miles on the car. It's funny, I had no problems on the twisty washboard cottage roads I was driving on all summer.
-juice
After my 00 OBW has been sitting awhile (say a day or so) I'll drive it and just before the first upshift, the whole car starts shaking progressively harder side to side until it upshifts, then its ok. I still need to replace the spark plugs 57,000 miles on original. Should I do the wires too?
I was thinking it might be the timing belt or tensioner. Any ideas?
Thanks,
Eric
-juice
Owen
I back out of my driveway and then travel about 150 feet to the end of my road. So I'm not going too fast ~ 20 mph. I put the brakes on and noticed I kept going but the ABS activated. Little scary, because the road is a main road.
That's the first time it ever happened (50K miles, today!). Forgot to tell the main driver - she drives way too fast to the end of the road...
Will monitor and report additional occurances...
Strange that it comes up here and it just happened!!
Ralph
So - I guess that answers my question. Anyone have thoughts on this? Is this common knowledge that I've missed somehow?
I have not heard of many complaints on the newer 2.5 liter engines. It seems like the occurrence is way down, but apparently not zero.
Thanks!
Patti
George, mines an X so drums in the rear. The WRX would be disks all around.
This is my first car (whatever) with ABS so I went out to a empty parking lot to test it out and get use to it. The problem is not that the ABS engages, it's that you hit the brake pedal and you do NOT slow down. The pedal (in my case) felt like the ABS was working at say 20%. Unless it happens again I will wait until my next oil change, print out some of the Impreza WRX forum
and show it to the service manager. I'm expecting a blank stare.
http://bitman.com/accident/
bit
Jim
Thanks,
Eric
bit
You see almost no damage. I know a lot of people that would fix that with touch-up paint...
-juice
Ken
ABS works by sensing a rapid deceleration on the wheels. (For a wheel to lock up, it must first rapidly slow down, it doesn't just stop.) ABS senses this slowing down and releases braking pressure on that wheel, so that the wheel can regain traction.
As with any vehicle system, it requires a driver that can fel how the car is reacting, and respond to it, as much as the car has to respond to the driver. If you press as hard as you can on the brake pedal, it has to work harder to release the braking force on that locking wheel. You still have to use the brakes (When on ice) similar to the way you would use a non-ABS car.
In a non-ABS car, you feel for the "threshold", the point at which a wheel locks up, and then release pressure on the brake to allow traction to be restored.
With an ABS equipped car, you work slightly below that threshold, allowing the ABS to control the wheels itself, while still applying enough stopping power.
Now here is where the driver needs to respond to the car: You have to feel for the direction that the car wants to travel in, and keep pointing the car where you want to go.
The role of ABS is to prevent wheel lock, and thus a loss of traction when steering. It also helps to prevent wheel-lock and drifting/skidding when braking. The only reason it helps to reduce stpping distance is because it allows the wheels to regain traction, whereas a non-ABS equipped car would skid.
The last time I has the oppertunity to test the ABS on ice, the car responded better, and stopping distances were shorter with moderate pressure, than it did with heavy braking pressure. The system simply has to fight back too much.
No system can compensate for gross stupidity behind the wheel. Use common sense and leave extra space in the rain and now. Remember, in thge case of the Bean, the car and a driver weighs almost 4,000 pounds. A tough challenge for 2 square feet of rubber on the ground in any condition.
In the case of the manhole cover and the car feeling like it was on ice, the tire has less traction on the metal manhole cover than on the road, and the ABS can sometimes make the car feel like there is less traction.
Just my input, any more questions, please let us know...
Do you know how fast rolling down your driveway is? 5mph by the time it hit the truck?
-Brian
Jon
If all 4 wheels are on a slippery surface(ice, leaves) at the same time without at least one wheel having considerably more traction, the ABS will continue to adjust until it stops the car. Meanwhile, your still moving.
We own subarus, were confident, sometimes overconfident. we expect more. Perhaps your car was performing perfectly but needed more room to stop.
You can't change the laws of physics.
Seconds feel like minutes - that's the scary part.
I had an experience of my own. About 10 years ago
one January morning all of N. Jersey was covered with black ice. I had a Jeep Cherokee at the time-4wd,ABS. accelerating was not a problem, however breaking was a different story. I took some back roads to avoid traffic - big mistake. I was doing about 10-15mph(it was that bad)and a dog ran out in front of me. I applied the breaks,not hard, and continued to slide past at least 4 houses until I came to a stop.(300ft!) All the while the ABS was working just fine.
I think you get my point.
Cpp788x
P.S - the dog is fine.
As for more damage... yeah, I am still concerned. But I checked under the car and pulled out the spare and all the cargo area trim but found no indication of any damage. No buckles in the metal or cracked paint. I measured the car (OCD!) and could find no discrepancies side to side. I even checked the connecting points of the bumper assembly and could see no indication of movement. All panel gaps look good. The only indication of anything more than the bumper is the tailight slight misalignment and the back edge of the right rear fender where it meets the tailgate is maybe an 1/8" off. But the bumper cover is pushing up on it and may be holding it in that position. Given the tailgate was open at the time of impact it shows no damage... hinges and mounting points look perfect and alignment is right on. Closes just like new. The gate did impact the top of the truck either with the interior trim or more likely the latch on the gate.
I'm either very lucky or more will show up during repairs. If it ends up the fender is deformed I would rather leave it as is (not really noticeable) than have it messed with.
bit
Well I felt so good about my car that I gave it a good detailing to day at work .
I now feel alot better and I'll just have to learn to live with the noise .
Mike
The effect net would probably have been the same w/o ABS. (Except that the wheels would have been locked unless you pumped the brakes.)
Jim
I guess you learned from your sunroof experience if you are going to leave the lttle crease alone, see what they say it just might need a little nudge from a porta power, thats the hydraulic ram that they use to push out creases.
Cheers Pat.
Rattles / squeaks gone:
1) padded the styrofoam in the rear where there was any chance of styrofoam to styrofoam contact. Seems to have been successful.
2) loose bolt on drivers side tightened - don't know what connectors were mounted to it, but the whole assy was loose.
3) air filter cover lower snap fitting was wedged in on one side vs. being snapped over tab. This is almost forgivable considering that they've made removing that cover even worse that the 03's. The trick is going to be convincing the dealer I didn't break it. A $23.00 part. Talk about ridiculous markup - must be all of 1.5" by 6.0" piece of plastic.
4) harness rattle on drivers side - used a couple of ty-wraps. Seems to be gone.
Unsure about the snapping / popping sound. Didn't locate a specific cause and the weather was too warm today to be sure if anything I did had an effect. BTW - the snapping popping noise is so loud that cranking the radio up to drown it out would not only make me deaf, but would also guarantee I'd never hear a police/fire/ambulance siren. Yes, Virginia, it is that loud.
Lot's of things I'd rather have done on a Boston area day in the 70's at this time of year.
Larry
This happened to me once before, a couple of years ago. But it only lasted until I started the car again - after sitting overnight, the sound system worked fine, so I didn't bother taking it to the dealer. Now, of course, the b-to-b warranty is up. Any ideas before I call the dealer?
Thanks,
Faye (long-time lurker)