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GMC Canyon



  • This is TOO CLASSIC :-)

    "Poor seems like everytime they try to get back in the game, someone comes along and makes them eat dirt again. I don't care about how good a Hyundai's gas mileage is, or how amazingly stout a Toyota is. GM is an American icon, and I have owned three of them happily."

    Bet one of those three was a Vega, one was a V8 diesel, and the other was a 468 Cadillac... LOL

    I've owned 51 vehicles, sold Chevrolets for 3 years, and I'm on Toyota #8 and Honda #2. Just checked and tradein value on my 01 Tacoma is $5000 less than I paid for it brand new... and the most that's ever been done to it by the dealer is a new shoulder harness (doesn't retract fast enough).

    My last new GM vehicle was a 2002 Envoy with the I6. GM should have put THAT engine in the Colorado/Canyon... better mileage, more horsepower. WOW... just another GM screwup. Maybe if they offered a 10 year 100K warranty, they could entice me again... but it ain't likely!
  • How do you figure better gas mileage, curb weight differences? Envoy I-6 gas mileage is 15/21 for a 4X4, Canyon Crew cab is 17/22 for the I-5. And the I-6 hits max torque at 4800RPM the I-5 hits is at 2800, so that is better for off road use and towing. I wouldn't want the
    I-6 unless they made it into more of a truck motor, with lower RPM. I think the I-6 is a good motor but I have no complaints about the I-5 for what I need, I own a trailblazer and canyon. I also must be one of the few people who have had good luck with GM's, I had full size blazers with 200,000 and a 98 buick commuter with over 120,000 and a Taurus in college with 110,000, all no problems. The big 3 still needs a swift kick in the pants though, I am not blind to that because of my good luck.
  • I could care less about torque. If I wanted torque I'd buy a big truck with a diesel. Having just gone thru that formula, I realize that's what you have to have to pull ANY RV. I'm only concerned about zip and gas mileage... and most important, RESALE VALUE.

    If someone paid me a million dollars, I wouldn't drive any of those vehicles a hundred thousand miles. I've owned most all of them (except the Buick) and none of them lasted 30,000 miles in my garage before they started having problems, or I was so bored with them I wouldn't drive them any longer. To be specific, I owned a 93 K5 Blazer, 97 Tahoe Sport, 97 GMC Z71 and 87 Sable.

    So how do like listening to the pistons slapping in your Trailblazer and Canyon? Have they had to yank the dash out to fix the HVAC motors yet? How much have you lost in depreciation for owning them so far?

    Oh, and I don't own the SuperGlide any more. Got tired of the chrome contest, and being associated with Harley owners. And Harleys are no better than American cars, except for the resale value aspect. I have owned an assortment of 13 motorcycles though, in case you want to discuss the pros and cons of those.
  • Trailblazer has no piston slap, yet I guess, almost 50,000 miles and no issues besides the stated recalls. No HVAC issues either, depreciation is bad, but mainly because of the high gas prices and used lots flooded with ALL makes and models SUV's.

    If you don't want torque in a truck then buy a station wagon. Torque is also great for 4x4ing, if you are talking 2x4 then like I said get a station wagon(HEMI?). I tow up to the 4000lb limit and low end torque is still better than high end torque, no matter how you cut it.

    When I bought the Canyon Zip came after value, size, my idea of good looks, functionality for what I need, ..... and then "zip". If I wanted zip first I would have bought a Boxter S.

    Why are you so mad for buying boring cars, that was your fault up front, not GM's?

    Too bad about selling the Superglide. I don't play the chrome contest. I ride for myself, I gave up that "look at me game" after high school. A lot of Harley riders are nice people, too bad you stereotype them. I owned Honda's and Ducati's, yet love the Harley the most. If you are talking AMF Harley's then sorry about your luck, the 90's and on have been quality machines, and recently I would say Harley quality is finally approaching the Japanese bikes.
  • bigfurbigfur Posts: 649
    Im just wondering if Superglide is mad at GM or just at the American car companies in general or maybe the whole world? If you dont like GM and American vehicals i have the same thing to say to you that i say to immigrants to complain about being here.... GET OUT!
    To everyone else, have a nice day and a happy new year :)
    As for chroming up the bikes... guess what, everyone likes their bike to be personal and look good. deal with it.
  • ocmike3ocmike3 Posts: 232
    So, what brings you to this forum? Sounds like you had a bad day and just want to complain....
    Owned a lot of vehicles over the last 30 years; domestic plus Toyota, Subaru and Volvo. I wish I could say any were more reliable and outstanding than the others, but I really can't. I can say we've run most of the vehicles to over 100k miles before giving them away or selling cheap to a needy friend/family member.
    My 2004 Canyon has >24k miles and I've had one problem - resistor on climate control fan board died. No piston slap or other anomalies; starts every time and goes when and where I ask it to.
    If resale is high on your priority list, domestic vehicles aren't the way to go. Mostly hype (and little real data) keeps the values of Toyota, Honda, Volvo, Mercedes, BMW etc... higher.
    Having, many friends and family that have owned Audis, BMW, Volvo, Nissan, Honda, Toyota, Saab, Jaguar,Subaru; few have had any better luck than I have with Pontiac, GMC, or Chevy. Repair and maintenance costs for the "foreign" models we've owned has been higher than the domestics, sometime quite a bit more.
    Your opinion of "just another GM screwup" is just that, another person's opinion is that they are just fine or great for what they need.
  • bigfurbigfur Posts: 649
    What kind of mileage are people getting with the I-5 with either tranny? Looking to possibly step down from my Silverado since i dont do alot of heavy towing anymore. Thanks for any input.
  • ocmike3ocmike3 Posts: 232
    I've got 4WD Crew cab, I-5, auto: Currently running in 2WD(metro area gas is diluted w/10% ethanol in winter) I'm getting 16-18 in mixed driving, 21-22 Hwy. With regular (no ethanol) I typically get 18-19 mixed and push 24mpg hwy. I haven't monitored my 4WD mileage as it is sporadic.
  • I have the five cylinder on my 2004 Canyon extended cab. The engine has a whistling noise intermittently while going down the road, esp with gentle acceleration. My dealer has heard it, tried twice to fix it, and finally produced a GM service bulletin that said, and I kid you not, if the dealer can't fix it, tell the owner the sound is a normal operation condition of that engine. Anyone know how to fix this? Can you imagine any mfgr that cared about its reputation issuing such a bulletin?
  • With the automatic, I am lucky to get what the window sticker said. Around town, 15-16, highway, 20-22. My Lexus 430 gets much better mileage.
  • 10% Ethanol, 4X4 crew cab, getting about 17-18 city and over 20 on the highway.
  • leadfoot4leadfoot4 Posts: 593 2005 Z71 SLE, and have only two issues. First, the OEM tires were worse than junk. The dealer said GM was looking at options to fix the problem, but nothing ever came of it. I replaced them initially with Bridgestone Blizzaks for the winter, and upgraded to 16" Firestone Destination LEs for the summer. Tire problems gone.

    The second issue is wind noise in the cab. Not an air leak, but turbulance like noise at the rear pillar of the cab. Many have mentioned it on this forum, and some have had cab/bed alignment issues which contributed to it. My cab and bed were "square" to each other, however I recently loosened the bolts and was able to shift the bed about 0.050-.060" closer to the cab, and close up the gap. That helped a LITTLE, however it's still NOISY, and getting really annoying, as I've driven this truck more than originally anticipated. My previous truck, a 97 S-10 was FAR quieter.

    On the plus side, the ride is good, the gas mileage decent, and other than a defective dome light switch, it's been trouble free.
  • gsp9gsp9 Posts: 3
    I have an 05 Canyon Crew Cab 4x4 with 12,000 miles on it. Has anyone had any luck in GM buying their truck back? I've had mine for 6 months now and it has had several problems both major and minor. As of right now, it is in to have the valvetrain and cylinder head replaced. The third week I owned it the internal clutch and transmission went. Plus I have had electrical problems and the usual tire promlems due to the General tires. All totaled it has been in the shop for about 3 weeks out of 6 months.
  • greetings all...just found this forum...i have an 04 canyon and have read many of the posts here. the little truck has excellent pickup, but it's had a few
    a reduced engine power display that occured 4 times....detroit finally had them replace the trottle body and that fixed that...but the gas mileage absolutely SUCKS.
    i want an older-but-hardly used 2003 S10 with four cylinder and 5 speed back....badly.

    BTW, has anyone noticed that the body of the canyons aren't exactly centered on the frames? passenger side tires protrude 1 inch to the outside; i have it on decent authority that GM acknowledges this...check it out..YMMV,
    but all i've seen were like this. wonder if this has anything to do with the rough ride?

  • I have an '04 gmc canyon crew cab sle 4x4 with 38,000 miles. I have had continuous check engine lights come on and the dealer said that they were misfires. After a half dozen or so, they then said that it was a clogged injector and that they cleaned the fuel system. Two say's later it was back in, this time they said they were going to replace the fuel injectors. They drove the vehicle for 250 miles with no light coming on. 75 miles later it was back on. Now they say that they did a leak down test and say that the exhaust valve spings need to be replaced. After reading about the valve train problems and engine replacements, I am printing these problems and showing them to my dealer. Cut your losses and sell, or if your looking at the canyon, don't buy, as you can tell, most of these messages are not good.
  • temj12temj12 Posts: 450
    I am not a General tire fan, at all. When I bought my 05 in June, I would not buy it until I took it on the interstate and tried driving it at 70 to 80 to see how the tires were balanced. They are perfectly smooth. I expected the worst but they have been good tires. I had had them before on a previous truck and they were horrible. Don't be put off by them. Take it out, however, and push it to interstate speeds; up to 80 and check them out before buying.
  • I purchased a new 2005 GMC Canyon Crew Cab SLE 2WD with 5 cylinder in March 2005.
    I have had only 2 problems with it so far after 36,200 miles. First problem that appeared after 12,000 miles was from tires that were feathering around the edges, and I took it to the dealer. They incorrectly said that it needed a front end alignment. This did not fix the problem. Later, I took it to my trusted mechanic, and he said that the problem was caused by the tires not being balanced correctly. Second problem appeared after about 6 months and 20,000 miles. It was a squeaking noise that occurred when the fan was spinning. The dealer replaced the fan motor because the bearings were bad. They actually had the part in stock which surprised me since this is not something that is normally stocked which leads me to believe that it is a common problem. Other than these two issues, the truck has ran flawlessly. In fact, I bought a new 2005 Honda Odyssey EX in May 2005, and it has had way more problems than the Canyon which really surprised me. I plan on trading in the Odyssey in 2 years or 60,000 miles whichever comes first. But, I plan on keeping the Canyon until the doors fall off. It is very handy for towing a boat and trips to Lowe's and Costco--for oversized items and bags of mulch. The truck is a little noisy when accelerating briskly but the ride is quiet and refined once it is at freeway speed. The factory General tires suck. They have no traction on wet pavement and corner poorly. Overall, happy medium between hauling/towing and fuel efficiency for a truck--21 to 22 fwy and 17 to 18 city. This is at about 2000 ft above sea level.
  • "I have an 05 Canyon Crew Cab 4x4 with 12,000 miles on it. Has anyone had any luck in GM buying their truck back? I've had mine for 6 months now and it has had several problems both major and minor. As of right now, it is in to have the valvetrain and cylinder head replaced. The third week I owned it the internal clutch and transmission went. Plus I have had electrical problems and the usual tire promlems due to the General tires. All totaled it has been in the shop for about 3 weeks out of 6 months. "

    Well I rest my case. Your experience is exactly one of those I read too often on here, and too close to my own experience with American cars the last 20 years. I'm not mad at the world and I'm not gonna "get out" of the US. It wasn't my choice to be borned here. If they'd let me immigrate to NZ or AU I would... but they don't want poor dumb americans :-)

    And most of the 52 vehicles I've owned were GM products. I've had 10 Corvettes, 2 GTOs, 2 442s, 5 ElCaminos, 3 Silverados, 2 Tahoes, and I won't bore u with the rest of the list. I even sold Chevrolets from 71-74. It's not like I don't have experience in what I'm saying. Most of what I've owned the last 20 years have been Hondas and Toyotas, but I test the water every so often and buy another american vehicle, only to be disappointed. I don't keep cars 200K miles, because when someone comes out with something new and fun (which is what they do to get you to buy a new car), I'm in line to buy it.

    And my 6 cylinder Envoy got 22 MPG consistently at 80 MPH, and one 300 mile trip I got 26 MPG... and one 60 mile trip I got 28 MPG... so why would I want a 5 cylinder? I actually liked the vehicle, but every month GM kept giving another $1000 rebate which just furthered my already bad resale value... and it was approaching the end of the 3 year warranty... and the dash had already been disassembled twice for HVAC problems... and I wasn't gonna own it out of warranty. I had it 30 months and 22K miles, and sold it for $10,000 less than I paid for it (not counting tax, license, etc.) and felt lucky.

    My nephew just bought a new (leftover) 2005 Canyon with the I5... couldn't get rid of his 2001 Deville any other way but to trade it in (I won't bore you with the list of problems that made him get rid of it). I haven't taught that kid anything ;)
  • granola1granola1 Posts: 1
    GM ups HP and TQ on the 2007 Cols and Cans from 220 to 235 and 225 to 260 respectively....possibly just a revised software...any confirms, as no physical changes to I-5's was mentioned.
  • temj12temj12 Posts: 450
    Has anyone had a problem with their GMC Canyon windshield? I have an 05 and I noticed tonight graininess in the windshield. It looks like grains of sand in the windshield. I first thought it was dirty and tried to wash it with the windshield fluid. Then I thought something had been sprayed on it, but not so. It feels smooth to the touch.
  • nosirrahgnosirrahg Little Rock, ARPosts: 872
    Where'd you read the news about the HP increase for 2007? I'd read before that the Colorado/Canyon was due a redesign in 2009; this HP increase strikes me as stopgap measure to maintain/increase momentum for the vehicles until the 2009s arrive.
  • chinntchinnt Posts: 2
    Couldn't wait, so I added a K&N intake and a Magnaflow catback exhaust so far...on order is a 2/3 lowering kit, 18" wheels, and belltech sway bar....

    2005 regular cab SLE I-5
  • fatboy23fatboy23 Posts: 8
    wawawa, I had 53 cars, someone crown me king of the forum. I also got 28MPG out of a trailblazer, down hill with a tail wind, drafting a semi. But who needs those facts when I am spinning my stats.
  • Well, my vehicle is still in the shop!!! 10 of the last 11 weeks!!! The shop has replaced the injectors, computer, o2 sensor twice, exhaust valve springs, 2 coils for the #2 and #5 cylinders not knowing each time if that would fix the problem. They are now replacing the head as the valve seats are eroding in the #2 & #5 cyl! GM has put out a service bulletin stating that if there is a p300 misfire code in the #2 and #5 cylinders (vehicle is running lean), it's a good chance that this head replacement should fix the problem, if not, they said that they are going to replace the engine. If that doesn't work, well, they don't have an answer for that...what?! :confuse:
  • temj12temj12 Posts: 450
    I would go lemon law on this. It will not be the same after they have done that much to it.
  • I can't. I fall within the 2 year part but not the 18,000 mile portion of the lemon law. Hopefully this works or an engine is next! After that, who knows. Either way I will be back on to let this forum know.
  • padfam2padfam2 Posts: 1
    I have a 04 crewcab canyon Z71 4wd. Does anybody know if they are fixing the a/c on these things? ive got a blk and blk and I bake! The a/c blows cold then warm cycling every couple of minutes Ive been told thats normal at the dealership. My mpg is around 13 I have the (5) this normal ? I traded in a envoy, that was a mistake this thing has no power!
  • Not sure where I read that for 2K7 GM is uping the 3.5 to 3.7 to give it more hp and torque.
  • ocmike3ocmike3 Posts: 232
    The AC system on the Canyon/Colorado was/is a new system that used less than a pound of refrigerant. It has a hard time being efficient enough when the temps go up. I had (just sold) a 2004 crew cab and the AC seemed adequate for the most part(NW), but once it was into the 80's I was running it full. AS far as I know GM has no "fix".
    I never had much trouble with it cycling cold to warm.... mostly it just couldn't put out enough cold air to keep everyone comfortable - back seat passengers did stay warm.
    I got much better mileage than that. Typically 16-19 to and from work and 21-24 on the hwy consistently.
  • Alright, I finally got my truck back from the dealer and have driven it for a month with no check engine light. The head replacement seems to have worked.
    For the person with the a/c problem, I have not had that bad of a problem, but it could be colder. The gas mileage is around the 17-18 city and around a solid 20 for the hwy. If the deals start coming for larger trucks, I may lease a Ford Crew for less than my truck. Still don't trust the Canyon.
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