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By all accounts, the Uplander, Buick Terraza, and '05-06 Montana were sales duds, but Pontiac actually only built their revised van for two model years! Amazing.
Having had two Ventures before our Uplander, the Ventures rode softer, the Uplander did better in crash tests, and I think the Uplander, with its big tires, aluminum wheels, and revised interior, looked better, but it rode hard I think. I always wondered if the increased crashworthiness contributed to that. It was reliable and cheap to operate in the 94K miles we put on ours.
MG finally got it right using the Rover 3.5 V8 (ex Buick) which was a load faster, lighter etc, but by then it was too late and it never saw any development - the engineers at British Leyland probably deserve medals for what they developed on a budget measured in pence sometimes but the bean-counters should have been charged with treason for the way they ran our car industry...(Guess which ones actually got the knighthoods - with the notable exception of the great engineer Issigonis, of course).
Nothing particularly odd spotted on the road today, oldest car was a MB W123 I think.
I think I see the curb feeler, too.
The '65 Cadillac is my favorite. Love the instrument panel before a lot of crash padding needed to be added. After a few years, it seems like the separate cornering lights began to sag, though. They were integrated in '66 which took care of the problem.
1961: 138,379
1962: 160,840
1963: 163,174
1964: 165,909
1965: 182,435
1966: 196,685
So, while 1961 was a comparatively low year, '62-64 were all pretty close, and there's not a HUGE jump between '61-62 sales and 63-64. Maybe 10% total. '65-66 looked like a healthy increase, though.
I think the '62 Caddy is my favorite, although I like the '61 as well. I just like the clean, crisp lines and overall sleekness of them.
My other '79, a 5th Ave edition, has another pimpy feature from that era...little chrome mudflaps!
I like the '62's also, and my friend just recently bought one from Indiana, a white Coupe deVille which I'm anxious to see (he lives about an hour northeast of me).
When I was in college, a guy on my dorm floor (this is late '70's) had his parents' old '64 Coupe deVille (purchased new) for transportation. It was a little rusty but cleaner than the average '64 in NW PA by that time. It was a pale turquoise metallic with matching cloth and leather inside. I seem to remember it had a signal-seeking AM radio (!). We'd pile in it to go to a place we liked to eat, about fifteen miles away, every once in a while.
Off the subject of Cadillacs, but my last paragraph reminds me that a girl in my dorm drove a '64 Studebaker Commander, dark red 4-door, which I'd see in the dorm lot. It was forlorn-looking. In an older house on Main St. in Clarion was also seen a '66 Stude back then. In the mid'70's in my hometown, there was a '64 Stude hardtop (which I later owned, another story) and a '65 Stude 4-door one street apart from each other, still being used daily.
I'm guessing it was still the same basic engine, although both the bore and stroke are different between the two. Usually a manufacturer will change one or the other, but not both at the same time, when they enlarge an engine.
Anyway, at the gas station, a nice sounding customized hotrod pulled up behind me. Couldn't tell what it was, but I'd say around a 1939-40 something-or other. It was a yellow coupe with a split grille, and lowered roof. And it had a split grille. Wasn't a GM product, as the headlights were integrated into the fenders. So I guess it could've been a Ford or Studebaker?
Also, while I was there, a blue 1987 or older Grand Marquis sedan pulled in, looking pretty good. And, as I was leaving, an early/mid 90's Buick Century, dark blue, was entering the station. Looking a little ratty and worn, but considering what I was driving, I'm not gonna judge!
And, this is a bit embarrassing...checking the fuel log, my NY'er was last filled up on 9/14/11. Since then, it had been driven 115.7 miles. The odometer and speedo are off, although I forget by how much, so that figure might be more like 120-125 miles. I'm sure letting the gas get that old didn't do much for it. It could just be my imagination, but on the way back home after the fill-up, it did seem to drive a LOT better. MPG on that tank was about 7.5. Ouch. But, I've gotten cars to get worse! :shades:
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Behold----the SHADOWMINO!
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It is identical (the black cloth interior is somewhat unusual) to the single one my hometown dealer, Dart Chevrolet-Cadillac, Greenville, PA got in and I rode in when new (didn't drive). They had it a year later and sold it to an older lady (seriously) who traded in a six-cylinder '72 Nova for it. It is now owned by an old acquaintance, who bought it probably 15 years ago at another Chevy dealer fifteen miles away.
The Cosworth Vega will get some modest respect at local car shows, whereas the regular production Vega is more likely to be ignored. I would stop to look at one, as I haven't seen one in a couple of years.
That said, there are usually a lot more Cosworths on eBay at any given time than truly nice regular Vegas. When the latter show up on eBay, they often outbid so-so Cosworths.
Fortunately the market is not defined by the occasional loopy person who pays too much for something but it rewards the person shrewd enough to pick the right collector car to invest in.
"All-Steel" was part of the model name because it was a bragging point in the age when most wagons had high maintenance wooden bodies.
Later I saw a parked Fourth gen '64-'66 T-Bird coupe that looked in nice shape. It was grayish white and had a painted roof with no landau irons or vinyl covering,
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but one I do was ultra rare. and moving under it's own power, on the highway no less.
A Citroen SM. white. was going the other way so did not get a close up look at it. This was in the boonies below Binghamton NY, so even an odder place for it to turn up.
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A few old cars out today. Saw a parked W108 250SE - oddball engine size only made for a couple years. Was going to go back and take a pic of it with the fintail, it was gone. Also saw an early 60s small Buick convertible (Special? Skylark?), red with white top, obviously restored. A 57 Chevy - flew by from a distance in traffic so I am not sure, think it was a Bel Air 2 door post, in that bronze color I think called "Sierra Gold" with a beige two tone. Very nice looking first gen Accord. Mint brand new looking 1986 Camry, older driver.
And I guess both of these are relatively unusual cars:
Normal W212s are a dime a dozen here. 4Matic might even be more common than 2WD, at least in my area.
Diesels appeal to me more than hybrids, but not more that gasoline engines, yet, for my driving.
Speaking of diesel, I read that MB is offering a new aluminum 2.1L twin-turbo Bluetec diesel option in the GLK, and that this engine will be substituted for the 3.0 V6 Bluetec diesel in the E-Series. Horsepower and torque for the GLK250 are 200 and 369 lbs. feet, respectively. I'm sure you've known this, but perhaps for some, like me, it's new information.
On another topic, about three weeks ago we briefly discussed that parts of Canada, including Vancouver, may be experiencing a housing bubble. I've since read articles that support this argument.
Strangely, the NYer seems happier when it's driven fast and hard, with my foot into it. It just seems smoother and more responsive. It's low speeds, idling, coming to a stop, etc where it seems to get cranky.
This might be tempting fate, but I drove it to work today. I'm going to try and drive it every day this week, and see how it acts. It didn't start up on the first try this morning, but the third. Kinda cool and drizzly this morning, and it hasn't been run since Saturday, so that's no big deal. It stalled the moment I put it into gear, but did start right back up.
And, for an added bonus, this morning when I turned on the windshield wiper, only the driver's side worked. So, that's something else to deal with. And, I noticed a tear in the top of the back seat, right in the middle. Probably from old age/sun damage.
Whoops, there goes the NY's resale value (LOL).
Yes, the 4 cylinder diesel is replacing the V6. It should work well, as that engine is very popular in Europe. However, that engine has worse NVH - the 6 is very smooth and would be hard to beat. Maybe they can isolate it, and maybe the tradeoff will be worth it for even more mileage (my best cruising at an average of ~60 for 100+ miles was 45mpg). I also kind of like that the V6 Bluetec is somewhat of an industrial unit - used in Sprinters. It will be durable.
The Canadian gvt is manipulating interest rates and related policies to keep the bubble afloat, but I fear it won't end well there. Especially for condo buyers, of which there are probably a greater percentage of in Canadian cities than in the US. The place has often seemed to follow a similar path to the US, just lagging by some years - once again seems true.
No need for a backup camera here:
Old style is more flamboyant:
Half a century:
Huh?
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Just google Canadian Housing Bubble - there are many sites detailing it, some even city-specific.
Now, back to cars.
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Talk about nonsense, yourself. Canuckistan is in a bubble and already deflating in some areas (Lower Mainland and Victoria especially).
Back to cars, indeed.
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Didn't see much in the way of obscure cars up there, although I remember seeing some tiny little Mercedes thing that looked sort of Honda Fit-esque, as we were stuck in line at the border trying to get out of the US.
Oh, I have a friend who lives in Toronto. One day, he posted a pic of the street outside his house for whatever reason (I think someone blocked his car in), and lo and behold, there was a '59 DeSoto Firedome 4-door at the curb on the other side of the street! That has to be a pretty rare sight in Canada. Heck, it's a rare sight here!
However, I did see this As-new Mark V, like the LeBaron, carrying an asking price about 100% over top real world value.
How about you stick to not being so easily offended? I wasn't being personal. Nobody has a right to be spared an opinion that hurts their sensibilities. As Americans seem to have a few character flaws, that one does seem to be prevalent among many Canuckleheads :P
When was the last time you looked in there?
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Condition was as-new. I saw one paint flaw, nothing more. Interior looked new. All glass and plastic lenses like new. But as nice as it is, is the market bringing more than 20K for one?
I'm sure Shifty could pinpoint it but my guess would be 10k. If I wanted a mint Mark V I could justify that much because restoring one would bury you deeper than Jimmy Hoffa.
I'd still take the Givenchy I posted the other day in Project Cars.
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