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I took it to the dealer I bought it from and after
2 trips and more than 10 hours during which he reset the computer, and then took off the wire connecting the battery temporarily, the light is still on.
I checked with Honda - no recalls, has anyone else had this defect light up?
Other than this, I like the Pilot.
Grand High Poobah
The Fraternal Order of Procrastinators
I took it in, they confirmed the problem and ordered a new plastic spoiler. The problem is that this item is back ordered with the manufacturer and they can't even give me a ballpark estimate of when it will be in. In the mean time, every day it scratches a little more of the roof.
Please let me know if you get yours replaced in a timely manner, I'm curious.
-Thanks!
Why would anyone mess with the SRS system to change the mirror ? It baffles me, when an external item like the mirror is changed the SRS light on the pilot comes on.
Anyone have similar experiences? Now the dealer wants me to drop off the pilot for a day to fix something that was not broken in the first place !!
Anyone else seeing this?
Thanks.
Thanks
I'm also waiting for new seatbelt holders to come in, since mine come out of the ceiling holders. The rear one will hit the hatch glass pretty hard when it flys out, at first I thought someone threw a rock at my window.
I tried to get them to fix the sagging seats, but they said it was normal. I've noticed that during this hot weather the seats don't look bad at all. I'll hit them up about the seats again later this fall when the temperature starts dropping.
Speaking of temperature dropping, I also get a rubbing/scrapping noise from the steering wheel (behind the airbag) only when it's cold. Of course the dealer couldn't duplicate, so I'll wait on that one too. It did it during the winter months when temps were 10-20F, now it'll do it around 50F. It's almost like it's a lubrication problem with the steering bearings. I only get it while it's cold and turning the wheel a full revolution.
Even with all these current issues (there were others initially) I'm still happy with the Pilot. For the size and power, I consistently get 20-21mpg around town and 23-25mpg on the highway. So, no serious complaints.
-Pete
any one else having air conditioning issues? so much for the reliability of honda. their reputation, in my eyes, is only as good as my experience with them. we'll see how they "take care" of the situation, and i will keep you all posted.
Anyone had that checked yet at the dealership?
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'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
Honda Service News
September 2002
Outside Temperature Indicator Logic: ’03 Pilot EX
If you’re getting complaints from owners of ’03 Pilot EXs that the outside temperature indicator doesn’t read accurately, you may just need to explain how the logic works.The temperature sensor for the indicator is mounted behind the front bumper. Because of this, the temperature reading can be affected by heat reflection from the road, engine heat, and even exhaust from surrounding traffic. To prevent bogus readings, the display uses a specific logic.
Here’s how it works.
CONDITIONS LOGIC
The outside air is warmer than when the ignition switch was turned off [ACC (1) or LOCK (0)]
• If the ignition was turned off for less than 2 hours, the displayed temperature when you turn the ignition switch to ON (II) stays at the ignition-off temperature until the
vehicle has gone faster than 18 mph for 30 seconds, then the display immediately updates to the measured outside air temperature.
• If the ignition switch was turned off for 2 hours or more, the displayed temperature when you turn the ignition switch to ON (II) rises 1 degree every minute until the measured outside air temperature is reached. The outside air is cooler than when the ignition switch was turned off [ACC (1) or LOCK (0)]
• If the ignition switch was turned off for less than 2 hours, the displayed temperature when you turn the ignition to ON (II) is the ignition-off temperature. The displayed temperature then drops 1 degree every 2 seconds until the reading matches the
outside air temperature.
• If the ignition switch was turned off for 2 hours or more, the displayed temperature is the measured outside air temperature.
The outside air temperature indicator's displayed temperature can be recalibrated plus or minus 3 degree F by:
1) turn the ignition switch ON (II), and make sure the outside temperature is displayed;
2) press the select/reset switch buttom for 10 seconds. While you continue to hold the buttom, the display will scroll through temperature settings from +3 to -3 degree;
3) when the desired correction value appears on the display, release the buttom, and the recalibrated outside air temperature will be displayed.
Also, how do the explanations for when it gets its reading have anything to do with the false indications from road heat, engine heat, and surrounding exhaust heat? Am I missing something? Based on that introductory paragraph, I thought it was going to give some sort of complex mathematical equation to factor in environmental influences. lol.
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Yes, it'll still give readings that look false because of road heat and such, but these aren't really false. The air really is that hot near the road. The only way you can get close to a reading that looks right on a hot sunny day is to have some air movement (either the vehicle and/or environmental wind). But then again, what is the right temperature?
At least they allowed for consumer level calibrations, not too bad.
-Pete
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If you were driving over 18 mph for at least 30 seconds, it should have started adjusting. Sounds like yours may be defective.
Mine, on occasion, seems to stick - until I read their "logic" which I fell right into. Yesterday, for example, mine read 89 for over an hour and I knew it was much hotter (~100F). But my problem was I was stuck in stop/go traffic and never achieved that 18mph for at least 30 seconds. Every time traffic would speed up, it would come to a stop again. After about an hour of this I finally got up to 50 mph and it started adjusting itself at about 1 degree per minute. It took about 10 minutes for the temp gauge to catch up.
Other than this stop/go traffic scenario after being parked for a short amount of time, I've been very happy with the temp gauge. For the most part, it always seems right on the money. I wouldn't have a vehicle without it during the winter months.
Good luck with yours,
Pete
If I want to know what its like outside the car, I open a window. If, for some strange reason, I need to know the EXACT temperature, I turn on the radio. But I've never been so inclined.
Granted, I have a little light in the Volvo that tells me if the conditions near road level may cause icing, but its just a minor convenience. I got along for a long time without such a thing and I could still get along just fine if I didn't have it now.
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I'm also the type of person that looks at ~30 temp readings from independent internet users to determine my local temperature rather than listen to some radio station that quotes their own downtown temperature or the official airport temperature. These can be 5-10 degrees off from where I'm at.
A small pet peeve with the Pilot is that I can't display the temperature and the trip meter at the same time. Oh well....
-Pete
Noticed that the power locks, does not lock
the door when i insert the key and turn on the
ignition. Is it same for all are should i get it
checked with the dealer.
Thanks,
MM.
I actually made a trip to the dealer to get it
checked. They said none of the Hondas lock
doors automatically. To get it changed we have
to replace the entire power locks unit to a out
of market one. (Not from honda)
Great idea to have it a configuration of the car. But doubt that will ever happen.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
If there is even a decision to be made in your mind, than why not save the money and go without?
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Sit in them both any choose the one more comfortable. If the comfort level is the same, go with cloth - you'll save money and have better looking seats.
I just got my Pilot back from the dealer and the sagging front leather seats was one of my complaints. They wouldn't touch them. They said that the leather stretching was a normal wear characteristic. They didn't seem to understand my explanation of the foam under the leather being the problem.
I'll take it to another Honda dealer this fall/winter and try again. I've noticed the seats sag less in the hot (~100F) weather and will admit they didn't look that bad on the day my dealer looked at them.