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Late August it was in again for the same reason. They drove it again and heard the noise so they took the dash apart and the radio out to try to insulate it more. When I talked to the mechanic and service advisor they said that just by slightly pushing on the top of the dash over the radio it will go away, so try it again and see what happens.
Guess what? It is happening again so I have an appointment on Friday. I work at the Honda dealership and when I was talking to another mechanic he spent a total of 21 hours trying to fix it and they ended up replacing the dash per Honda's recommendation. Honda people even came out to hear it and see what was going on. I am the third one to have problems at the dealership and the Pilots have one thing in common-they are all black.
I am just wondering if anyone else has had this type of problem and if so, has it gone away with the different fixes?
Anyway, I did discover on my own that I could push down on the center of the dash and have it go away. Had this only a few times and I haven't heard the noise in quite some time. when you get it fixed, please let me know so I'll know what needs to be done if the problem comes back and persists.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
My '04 Pilot is smooth as silk on the highway and around town. It's amazingly more smooth and quiet than my '98 eddie bauer ford explorer. I wish my new Pilot had a "real time" and average mpg readout like my EB Explorer, however.
Yes! babyb, my pilot is black!!!!! Babyb, could you describe the noise you hear in your car? I am thinking that maybe we have the same problem. Did they fix it for you?
I also hear very loud dull noise coming from back when accelerating or braking. It sounds like it is from the fuel tank because it is half full. I have driven many cars. This is my first time hearing noises caused by gasoline in a half full tank.
Anyway, Have you experienced the same problem? Thank you for sharing.
The sloshing gas tank is an issue that many owners have complained about (and I hear in our Pilot very often). As far as I know, there is no fix for this at this time.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
Could you describe the noise in your car?
What do you think. Back out or proceed?
How bad are these problems compared to the overall performance?
Thanks for your anticipated opinions.
Mine is the very top of the dash over the radio. I've only had it happen a couple of times. It sounds just like 2 pieces of plastic rubbing together. Or the sound of leather on plastic. Just a very slight and deep-sounding squeak/creak. If I push slightly on the top of the dash, it stops. So I assume its where those 2 dash materials come together (the black top and color-matched dash).
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
You will never find a vehicle that doesn't have complaints. I happen to think, at this point, this particular vehicle has very few complaints in comparison to many many others.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
OUt of the internet users, how many are reading Edmunds?
Out of the ones reading Edmunds, how many contribute by writing a note about their problem?
Let me estimate 5000, 200, 50.
So the sample is 50 out of 80000? Using t he ratio of 50/80000 to extrapolate the number of problems that are represented by the extremely small sample of Pilot owners who have written a complaint here, I estimate a lot of vehicles with the problems noted here...
RE: "You will never find a vehicle that doesn't have complaints."
Some on the Civic board and Accord board don't acknowledge there are problems with the vehicles.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
I think you underestimate how many people with complaints seek out a forum to vent on. As a matter of fact, on another board I frequent and use to get information for the folks here on this board, there is a list of all the vin numbers and owners who use the board. Right now the list is over 1000. And that's just a count of the people who chose to post that info. Not everyone using the board has done so.
Out of that, I have seen VERY few who are completely disgruntled with the car. Maybe a handful, if that. Then there are maybe, and I'll overestimate, 20 who have big complaints, but still like the car. The rest are very happy owners. Sure, there are probably a couple hundred who have complained about something at some time, but they have admitted that they are small complaints and don't affect their love of the vehicle.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
The other caveat on rattle/noise complaints, IMHO, is that of the power of suggestion. Maybe I'm the only one, but there have been occasions when a noise was present -- in the car, at home or in the office -- that I didn't even notice until someone asked if I did. Then, once I "tuned in" to the noise it proceeded to drive me nuts and I could almost hear nothing else.
In the car, a rough section of roadway causing a "funny" noise has sometimes left me wondering if a tire is going flat or the suspension is in the early stages of some imminent failure. From that point onward -- until and unless something else grabs my attention to make me forget about it -- my ear is so tuned to strange noises that I hear all kinds of things on which to form wild speculations of failure.
This is not to say that there are not annoying noises that really should be fixed. But you have to ask yourself: if you have to turn the radio off, tell everyone to be quiet and listen carefully for the noise, then how annoying is it really? Or is that behavior itself even more annoying still? ;-)
Peace (and quiet) to all!
You said well what I was trying to say. The number of contemporaneous readers that are Pilot OWNERS reading during, say a month, is low compared to total Pilots sold. I'm not an owner but I'm reading. The number of nonowner readers may be greatly higher.
The validity of and meaningfulness of the sample here is more in the eye of the reader. Proponents see few problems. Detractors see numerous problems represented. I read to learn what's there to tell friends who have Pilots what goes wrong so they can "tune in to it" -- IF it starts occuring in their Pilot. I read to suggest to friends as they shop what might happen with Highlanders, Pilots, Pacificas, etc., if they buy one.
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Even Edsel owners loved their car. I even liked my 73 Torino... but many cars do have problems that should not be happening.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
I just find it funny when the majority of complaints are about things like a sloshing gas tank or wrinkled leather and it makes shoppers think "geez, this just might be the worst Honda ever!" Guess that's just my point of view. Personally, I've had nothing to complain about of any real substance on this vehicle. I've seen several posts on a dedicated Pilot message site from potential owners asking if they should buy it because of all the problems they read about. Not once have I seen an owner say not to buy it. That says alot to me. To put that in perspective, the last car I bought for myself was a '98 Volvo S70. I bought it even though I ran into dozens of owners here and on other sites who said DON'T BUY THIS CAR. I decided that their complaints were, in many cases, nitpicking garbage and, in the cases of valid serious problems, few and far between. I have not regretted owning that car once in the past 2 years I've owned it.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
I had a couple problems with my Accord sunroof and after two times the noise was gone and never came back. I guess if I would have found out the noise after more miles were on it, I probably would not be as dissatisfied. This being my third new Honda, I expect something to be fixed. Yeah I have lived with the other noises. One of them was actually in the steering column that ended up getting fixed when the column came from the factory off centered.
After talking with the service manager he is thinking it is with the darker vehicles since they retain more heat, especially with the dash exposed. Sure it could go away in the cooler weather, but I am sure that it will be back when summer comes around again. I just don't want this to be a continous problem until my lease is up in 33 months.
However, this discussion is called "Problems and solutions," so problems are going to be posted. I would say we've got a very biased sample of Pilot owners!
Even though I've had it less than 2 weeks, I should say that my new '04 Pilot seems like a very well-built car. It rides smooth as silk and is incredibly functional.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
Overall I am very happy with my Pilot. I have to say the 3rd seat is a waste, its very hard to get to. I would rather left that as a option, to keep the price down.
I think that the headlights are a serious problem as are the tail lights.
There was a discussion earlier about the paint and I have to say that I have more paint chips on this than our old van.
This car is supposed to be able to seat 8 (in a pinch), but just a solo trip to Costco makes it look like I've got 8 football players in it.
The window/helicopter noise is another problem I have. I don't always like to have the AC on. Forget about driving with the windows open. The other day while on the freeway, our son cracked open the rear window and my ears felt like they were going to burst.
I know Honda can do better and wish they had.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
And regarding the "wubba" noise with windows open. Be glad we don't have sunroofs in these things, cuz every car/suv I've been in with the roof open has that sound unless you get the magic combination of window openings and roof opening... My 4runner wasn't too bad with just the windows open (sunroof closed), but I could definitely hit that wubba sweet spot pretty easily even with just the windows.
And regarding the "wubba" noise with windows open. Be glad we don't have sunroofs in these things, cuz every car/suv I've been in with the roof open has that sound unless you get the magic combination of window openings and roof opening... My 4runner wasn't too bad with just the windows open (sunroof closed), but I could definitely hit that wubba sweet spot pretty easily even with just the windows.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
I also have the SRS light go on/off without any reason, I took it to the dealer and he couldn't (or wouldn't) fix it. Honda Customer Service is no help either.
Instead of wasting my time going to the dealers, I just ignore the light.
Is yours fixed?
I have been driving Hondas for some time and think that overall they are tough, reliable vehicles. However, recently, over the last 3-5 years their standard is not what it was earlier.
The Canadian made cars have more problems (as compared to the Japan manufactured ones - which seemed to run forever with minimal problems).
Although they sell such a large volume of cars, their Customer Service leaves much to be desired.
It is not cordial or helpful. It is deteriorating!
Although I enjoy driving the Pilot and the SRS issue is relatively minor (I hope), I would probably think twice about buying a vehicle when it comes out the first couple of years (they have more defects) and also whether it has to be a Honda next time.
Has anyone done this? Is there any forseeable potential problem? Thanks for your help.
MM.
Is it possible to thread the messages per topic. (I'm sure some message boards have this feature) With this feature if i click on the subject i can see all responses posted to that.
It will be much easier to follow a discussion and to reply them.
Thanks.
MM.
I'm sure sorry to hear about folks having trouble with their Pilots. My 3 week-old 2004 is generally good so far. I just filled the tank and I'm getting just under 20mpg in town (19.68).
I don't know that I'd want my remote displaying everything! IMHO, some things are best kept private... ;-)
Door lock/unlock
Car is starting
Arm/Disarm
Alarm has been tempted and where?
I will stay in context, away from humorous-but-fun-purposefully-literal-interpretations in the future!
No, sorry, that is not possible for me.... ;-)
Therefore, I cannot resist asking exactly what it is that would "tempt" an alarm?!?
Alternatively, have anyone tried put any other type of mirror in order to minimize the blind spot at the back?
I guess I was suffering from a "grass is greener" mood and thought I'd take a look around to see what else is out there, thinking I'd find the perfect vehicle.
I actually went and test drove an 04 Suburban (what was I thinking?!)It's big, it feels big, and it handles big. As the salesguy was telling me that Chevy is big on safety, I was having a hard time getting the brakes to stop us at the light.
Then I went and looked at the Nissan Armada that I've been anxious to see. After looking, sitting, touching the interior, I could never, ever imagine paying 10-12k more. I didn't even want to drive it. So I happily walked over to my "boring, safe, tight (MHO), non-cheesy" Pilot.