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Though I guess I could go to another Nissan dealer for warranty work.
While the subject has been raised, I would like to share some of my hard-earned experience to set your expectations at a realistic level. In my experience, vibrations come in two types.
The first is probably fixed within the first or second visit (re-balancing, rim\tire replacement, steering rack adjustment/replacement).
The second type ends up in no resolution at all. Eventually even the most accommodating dealer will run out of fix attempts. At this point, it seems, the automotive industry follows the same protocol. The manufacturer goes into a defensive mode. Subsequent test drives with technical specialists will result in the finding that the vibration is a normal operating condition (even if it is plainly obvious that it is not). This is a defensive call to preempt a lemon law case. Invoking a lemon law on a defect the manufacturer does not recognize will drag out the proceedings and wear down the consumer.
In order to force the manufacturer to acknowledge the defect, NHTSA's Office of Defect Investigation (ODI) requires the public to log a significant number of cases for the same defect to approach the manufacturer. At that point, the manufacturer can voluntarily initiate a recall - the government-enforced recall option would be a PR disaster.
I make these observations based on what I have read in the Nissan Quest, Nissan Murano and 2006 Volkswagen Passat (B6) forums. My wife is loving the Murano. Not a squeak, rattle, vibration to be found anywhere. Most probably the the Murano has a stiffer body structure which contributes to noise reduction.
I just finished a short trip 700 (est) miles and could only put in about 15 gallons when the fuel light came on. I really don’t mind the fuel light coming on that early, it’s just my wife starts to panic when the DTE says you can go ZERO more miles (something about being pregnant and 2 kids in the vehicle women) and then I reassure her that we can go about 100 more miles on the highway.
BTW I got 23.5mpg on my trip averaging approx 75mph (min 65 max 85) with 800lbs of people and 150lbs of cargo; part of the trip was in hilly terrain. I put in 91 octane just because the tech at Nissan said it was required I’m pretty sure I read only regular was required but thought it was only a couple bucks so I’d check it out.
Another complaint (they are creeping in with me) the cruise was totally useless in hilly terrain. When I had it on it would shift all over the place from 5th down to 3rd to 4th then back to 3rd then to 4th and back to 5th when it would straighten out. I think the manual says to turn off O/D in hilly terrain; when I turned off the cruise, everything worked as I expected. Meaning when the hills came it (sometimes) would down shift to 4th (really non eventful) and when I reached the top it would go back to 5th having the cruise kick you down to 3rd gave me the feeling of the old Knight Rider episodes when “turbo boost” was pressed just holding on trying to aim the thing straight.
Overall VERY satisfied with the Quest had an opportunity to drive a Dodge GC (loaded) on my trip yuk is the only thing that comes to mind thought I was going to roll the thing going around a corner creaky clunky under powered; glad to get back in the Quest.
The other thing, never ever as for or accept the dealership interval services. Most of the items are simple check items that they charge an arm and leg for. Look at the owner's manual to determine what is required. For basic service, any garage can service this vehicle. This engine has been aroudn for a number of years. Parts are common.
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We log fuel use and averaged 22.3 mpg for the first 6,000 miles, including breakin and winter driving.
Our best tank was 27.5, mostly highway at 65-75 and with the AC on (in recirculate mode) most of the trip. The cars about to turn 19,000 miles so I'll see what it is lately.
As far as service, my Vestal NY dealer has been good. They don't always find the problem at first but keep trying. I get a loaner so it's only a minor inconvenience to/from work to stop at the dealer.
Despite numerous minor issues, my 2004 SE is a good van and I'm confident that the 5 year warranty should shake out the big problems.
Costco has Kraco rubber mats for $20 for a 4 piece set, but doesn't have a cover for the "way back."
Is there an OEM all season set?
Or good aftermarket set?
Available online?
TIA
I have noticed the tranny downshifts very often if you are at low speeds and can image this behavior would be very noticeable on hilly terrain with the CC. Has anyone noticed this frequent downshifting with the Quest?
Overall, we enjoying the Quest. Our other choice would have been the Grand Caravan SXT.
Chris
I think your comment about the idle time refers to the trip computer and not the MPG. Yes when you reset the trip computer it counts all the time the car is on, not just when you are moving. The MPG is traditional miles travel over fuel burned. If you are idle, you are still burning fuel and that is accounted for in the number you see.
Most cars do shift frequently in hilly terrain. This is one reason why they do not recommend using crusie control in a hilly area. The shifting depends on how you drive. The more you drive the van the more you'll learn how to handle the hills so it does not downshift so much.
But instead I kept them and bought a set of Michelin X-Ice 215/65x16.
Specs show they're 770 revolutions per mile versus 761 for the OEM tire, so that's pretty close.
We haven't had any snow yet. I have two cars with Nokian RSI's and I'm curious to see how they compare. The dealer commented "I wish we could sell Nokians" and says they last longer.
Toyo Observe G-02 plus (size 225/65R16 100T)
We like the Sienna least, my wife actually got angry with me after I suggested we should still take it for a test drive; she really disliked it.
Good luck
Nissan is counting on the 2007 Quest's new interior to boost the minivan's disappointing sales. One of the highlights of the interior is a new instrument panel, which positions the gauges in front of the driver. In the current Quest, gauges are in the center of the instrument panel. Some potential buyers said that was inconvenient and distracting.
I mean, I LOOOVED the 2004 to 2006 Quest. I almost bought one, but decided on a smaller vehicle since I really didn't need something so big (love my Mazda5). Anyway, I LOVED the Quest and thought that it's exterior AND interior design was very refreshing and different and REALLY cool! I loved - and still love - Nissan for always trying new things, doing things a little differently and being slightly quirky. I like thinking outside the box. It's very me and I feel Nissan is very me, as well. This feeling was epitomized by the 2004 to 2006 Quest.
Now, I see that the Quest has gone from being radically different - for a minivan - to conforming to the norm. That makes me sad. A company tries to be different and tries to introduce new ideas to a country, and it just gets shot down to the point of having to redesign their car in order for it to be successful. Speaks to the state of this country and its overwhelming close-mindedness.
I know I may seem to be getting a little too deep, but that's just how it is here. And this is evident in other areas of life as well - such as music, where the homogeneous, mass-appealing, force-fed on the american public music is highly successful, yet artists who try to actually BE artists and produce somewhat different sounds and music can't enjoy the same level of success. This mass-mentality and unoriginality is very disconcerting to me, and the redesign of the Quest is just another example of how this mentality rules:
Difference is always punished, but conformity is rewarded!
I used to love the Quest, and now with its tepid front styling and more "normal" design, it just looks more like the Odyssey and Sienna; and now I like it less so. I like the new dash design - don't get me wrong, it looks very nice. But, it doesn't have that factor that the older dash had, and the outside design doesn't have it either.
I kind of feel bad now that I didn't purchase a 2006 Quest since I would've truly had an original and different vehicle than the rest of the masses. But, hey, my Mazda5 also fits that bill, so I'm still cool. Just still disappointed with the "normalization" of the new Quest.
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Thank you for your email. The reason the Goodyear Assurance Comfortred tire was not listed among tires as a recommended replacement
fitment for your vehicle is that this tire does not match OE fitment recommendations set by the vehicle manufacturer. In your
specific case, the speed rating of the Comfortred tire would be lower than that of the Eagle LS2 tire that is recommended for your
vehicle. Should the Comfortred tire be applied as a replacement, there exists a potential for a difference in feel in regard to
overall performance of the tires, as applied to the vehicle. Tires with a higher speed rating generally will have improved feel at
higher speeds, in comparison to tires driven at the same speed, but with a lower speed rating. This distinction would be in addition
to the top certified speed that each tire may be rated up to.
For further assistance with this, we suggest consulting your local Goodyear tire retailers.
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So, I don't think that is real clear. Is there a fitment problem or, a speed rating problem, or both. I really don't care to do 110+MPH in my van, LOL, and if that's the only problem, then I'll buy them. But, that 'difference in feel' just might turn my smooth operator into a wagon, hum... Ha...
What did everyone else buy?
:confuse:
You may want to look at the Yokohama Avid TRZ or BF Goodrich T/A. Both get good ratings by CR and Tire Rack and are much cheaper than Goodyear.
:confuse:
It reminds me more of the old Infiniti M45...though not in a bad way, though it's sad to see the Renault influence go away.
As for the orig. centrally placed speedometer - I quickly got used to it and think the new config is a step back. But when in Rome - Be a Roman
The interior looks nice too. I got used to the center gauges on my 2004, didn't think they needed to be moved, and the "pod" with all the controls on it was kind of cool. Just too unconventional for most people. But the new interior looks good. The gauges and radio controls look nice.
Just a couple observations - Too bad they took away the little storage shelf built in underneath the glove box and on the driver's side as well. That was a handy place to store stuff. Also, I hope that front center console can be removed - I actually enjoyed not having one in my 2004, and in "unsafe" areas or bad weather, my wife would get herself and all three kids in through a back door, close it behind herself, then buckle them up and simply walk through to the driver's seat without having to get back out of the van again. I also like how the rear headrests now fold themselves out of the way without being removed. However, I hope they are still removable, as we always took out the ones that weren't being used to give greater visibility.
Looks like engine and transmission are unchanged, which is fine - still the best powertrain available in a minivan today.
Overall, a very good update. It addressed all the complaints, but mostly kept the same unique style. I hope it sells better now.
Shows how you have to adjust for markets. The Mini and two Scions have a central control pod, with little commentary.
is like my husband said "they wont buy our van because they would have to buy all of them" that way the proff there is no lemon car
and everything else its cover by warranty.
I have my quest sinceit came out on fall 03 and trust me I had so many problems but more than 15 time to the service dept.and never pay a dime in fact they gave me a rental
I compliant about the stering, wheels, doors ratles etc.
I got to the point of filling lemon law. I hope you did something
is like my husband said "they wont buy our van because they would have to buy all of them" that way the proff there is no lemon car
Sir, I just took a look at your postings and the last 10 are bashing Nissan.
Moderator, I think this is a clear case of abuse.
When I looked in the manual after the price gouging, I noticed it was a bunch of lame things check bulbs check antenna inspect this or that like I wouldn’t notice I was missing a drive shaft until the service inspection.
Funny thing is when I had an Infiniti the service manager (different dealership) openly said I didn’t need to do all the dumb little things that it was just a waste and suggested I just do oil changes.
Brain lapses cost money :sick:
And for those curious we did have all the same problems as everyone else and did get some financial satisfaction from the courts (not BBB) and would not trade our van.
Too bad about the dealers in my area really like driving the van. We were just on the highway the other day and I was thinking what a nice vehicle to travel in. Good visibility, quiet, smooth, excellent seating capacity, good cargo room, powerful for on-ramps and passing, entertainment system to keep the kids from driving me crazy.