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I have had to do this with other cars I have owned but the documentation that came with the Quest does not say so.
And here's our Feedback Form if you see any errors or omissions (like the crash test results; I guess they mean there's no NHTSA test result, but the Quest got a "good" in IIHS testing).
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5-speed transmission
Vehicle Dynamic control
Automatic on/off headlights, fog lights, and puddle lights
17" wheels
Bigger tires
Tilt down in reverse side mirrors
Power sliding driver side door
Roof rack side rails
Roof rack cros bars
Skyview roof
Sliding glass sunroof
Dual zone ATC (temp) with in cabin filter
Memory for drivers seat/mirrors/pedals
265 Watt Bose Stereo (opposed to 150)
In dash 6-disc changer
Ten Bose speakers (as opposed to 8 "premium")
These are a lot of good options. However, I am also trying to stay realistic on price. Any thoughts on whether the SE will keep this type of gap when it comes to resell time? Are these things worth the extra money?
We just bought the SE, and I went through exactly the same process you're clearly going through.
Sit in the back of the SE and you'll be sold. Those SkyView windows and the console in the roof will do it for you. That, and the memory seat pushed me over the edge.
Also, keep in mind that the price difference you're looking at is MSRP, and popular as this van is, the supply is still good enough in most areas of the country (at least in mine) that you can get it close (~$500) to invoice, not MSRP.
As for the resale value: who knows? This is a completely new van, and clearly liked by people much more than its predecessor, and the SkyView is clearly a big selling point (see the Edmunds review). How long are you planning to keep it? If it's more than 6 years, how concerned should you really be about resale?
Then, I took my "Polarized" Sun glasses off and saw the reflection. So... , it seems like "Polarized" Sun glasses will do the trick. In my case, I ordered my prescription sunglasses "Polarized".
Feel bad that Nissan couldn't plan for parts supply. These things are common and they don't have enough supply even after 3 months of their car running on road....
I have the FM method as it does not sound right and the stereo of the Quest does not have an aux input in the radio itself.
Then... it just clicked! If you have the DVD option in you Quest you can actually connect your MP3 Player to the AUX in the DVD player. The sounds is Excelent via the DVD into the Quest stereo system.
With the Apple iPod in the car is like having a 600xCD changer in the car ! (like 6,000 songs or more).
In my opinion, the newly designed Quests "central control panel" is just to awkward to punk down $27,000 and then find out that you just can't get used to it. If they just made a vehicle with the Quest drivetrain and handling with the Toyota's fine finished interior, the decision to buy would be slam and dunk.
For most of the van owners, it's a second vehicle for a family of young children and parents in the 20's, 30's or early 40's. Spending 27,000 to 40,000 on a second car that is unusual and a new model year is in my opinion quite a risk.
I called Nissan's 800 information line and they said there is NO REBATE in the pipeline, especially since this is a new model.
I think for the our one income family who needs a van for young kids and older parents, I will buy the Dodge and maybe in four years seriously look at the Nissan again.
Similarly, you shouldn't just dismiss the Quest just because it's not a clone of every other mini-van that's been built over the last 25 years. I applaud Nissan for taking the road less traveled and bringing something special to the market.
My 2004 SE is the first mini van I have ever owned, and there is no way I would have bought it if it were just like every other minibox out there. I'm not your typical van buyer, mom, with kids. I'm a man with a wife, and an empty nest. My tastes run to Benzs', Porsches and Jaguars , and I've had plenty in my time (including 3 now), but I bought the SE cause it was the most stylish van on the road. The admiring looks, positive comments and questions I get every day, make me glad I purchased this van. I think you probably would too, if you gave it a try.
Second, the folks at Nissan through the 800 number would NEVER tell you if there was a rebate coming in the future or not. They want you to put the phone down and go out to buy one RIGHT NOW. They don't want you to wait a couple of weeks. Chrysler is doing the same thing right now as well. After the first of 2004, their vans will have a fold flat third row. The 2004 model vans in the showroom right now do not have it and Chrysler is not saying ONE SINGLE word about the fact that it's coming. Why? Because they want you to buy one RIGHT NOW. Nissan is possibly doing the same thing with you.
1) they dont play the incentive game
2) they dont sell to fleet buyers.
nissan is trying to emulate honda this way. nissans quality and reliability are arguably equal to honda and toyotas. until the last 12 months, their lineup has been limited, and they played the incentive game with the domestics. other than resale value right now, i see very little difference in the 3 brands. as a matter of fact, honda is now the one with the limited product lineup. nissan introducing the armada, titan, and murano, and with the pathfinder, xterra, and frontier due a redesign for 2005, they will have the most extensive and fresh product lineup on the market. each redesigned or all new vehicle will sell with no incentives, and cease to be sold on the fleet/rental market. the vehicles that have already adopted this are:
2004 maxima
2003 murano
2003 350Z
2003 350Z roadster
2004 quest
2004 armada
2004 titan
the ones that will adopt this policy soon:
2005 pathfinder
2005 xterra
2005 frontier
2006 sentra
2006 or 2007 altima
there are also a few vehicles with no name due out in the next year or so:
2005: mini-ute
2005: compact coupe
2006 or 2007: mid-size coupe
within the next 3 years, a rental company that wants nissans on their lot will have to go to the local dealer just like they would if they wanted a civic.
Kia Sedona leather feels and looks more luxurious.
It seems to me it's one thing to have a strategy of not offering rebates and another thing to meet sufficient sales targets so that rebates are not necessary.
Still I wonder why they would change in midyear and especially since this is their 2oth anniversary and the special edition with the removable 3rd row are in the showrooms.
I also wonder if they are going to change anything else with the vans. Of all the vans, the Chrysler vans seats have a perfect fit for me. I hate to see them design like the Toyota's with the huge seats.
I enjoy taking it for a drive each day and the more I drive it, the more I like it. The design of it is truly revolutionary (just as the ad says) both inside and out. I hope that I like it as much a year or two or three from now as I like it today.
Yep, it is the greatest minivan that I have owned thus far.
lumbar...
there is a significant difference in the goals of honda and toyota. honda doesnt care whether its #1 in sales or not. the accord is regularly right with the camry for #1. sometimes getting it, and sometimes not. wouldnt you agree that if honda offered rebates that they would blow the camry away? they also could do fleet sales and REALLY put the competition down....but they dont. their goal is to make money, regardless of how many cars they sell. if they are #1 in the process, then thats gravy. nissan is attempting the same. they have a goal to sell 100,000 titans a year. if they only sell 80,000, they will back off production instead of build more and offer money to buy unwanted vehicles. (ie. ford)
nissan wants to make money, not feed their ego. if they end up #1 in the process, then that will be gravy.
It's a long story that I won't get into now, but I'm in the middle of a "discussion" with my dealer about the way they installed my afermarket DVD player (part of the new car deal), and I'm VERY unsatisfied with the sound quality.
bowke28, I'd like to email you about this since I'm pretty sure you know the answer, but your email hasn't been working for the last two weeks or so! If you read this, please send me email.
Anyone else who knows what my options are, speak up!
I feel good about it. If you like to know the dealer and sale rep.'s name. Please e-mail me.
Thanks.
becky, if a rebate is all you are waiting for, you might as well pull the trigger. i would grab the leather. much easier clean-up. also the quest leather seems more durable than other leather.
The Quest leather is very comfortable, although Toyota's leather seems smoother than Nissan's. Our '97 4Runner's leather has a luxury feel to it that I didn't find in the '04 Quest.
We had a cloth interior Camry a few years ago and the stains from a coffee spill remained forever.
My only concern with leather is does a car seat leave any tears/dents/depressions in the seat? We switched from the rear-facing infant seat to the regular child seat (that doesn't have a base) and it seems to be making impressions in the leather. Any experience in this regard? (I think this problem would happen even with a cloth interior)
I'd still go with the leather for the comfort and ease...
thats why i mentioned the fact that the quest leather seems more durable. i think it would resist these things better than more "plush" leather.
The cloth seats of the Nissan Quest are far more attractive than the cheap looking, striped "Rouge Leather".
Everyone loves the van. People come up to it and say, "This doesn't look like a mini van". Everyone has said that. It is weird...I am showing it to people like it is my 2000 Prowler.
People are very interested in it. It looks great in and out and the SE really pampers you. The sky view roof is awesome. That is what first attracted me to it, then the 2 tv screens, and then the pod. Then of course the outside. Great lines to it and the 17" tires really complete the package as far as getting it away from the mini van look.
We got the running boards on it as well, as I said fully loaded. At first I thought that was a dumb idea, but after seeing one with them on, decided it completed the look. At night there is a light that runs the whole length of the board and looks really cool.
I have had two Ody owners say they like this better and wish they would have waited.
Good luck on your decision and your family. I would jump on the $100 over invoice and put a towel under the car seat. Had cloth in our Durango a few years ago, and it makes as much of an impression as leather could. The only difference is that I didn't put the towel down on that one, and I have it in the Nissan now.
spoiledleo1, we have the running boards too and we didn't notice the illuminated stripe on the first day. But when we did notice it, it was really cool. The whole van lights up wonderfully in the dark. Love the aircraft-style 'cabin' lights as well...
The van is FAST. It takes a while for me when I get back in my 97 4Runner to adjust for the lack of power (240hp vs. 187). Merging and overtaking on the freeway is a breeze...
We've started noticing some rattles but only after I put the 3rd row seat down. Could be the headrests from the 3rd row seats stuffed into the black bag they provided. I'll have to put the seat back up and drive to check.
I've long been a Toyota fan. Was almost ready to buy a Sienna. Thanks to VPP, I bought a fully loaded Quest. After driving it, I know this van rocks. It has character, and is so much fun to drive than the Sienna, in my opinion.