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Sorry if it is a repeat question that someone already asked.
Thanks in advance
Which dealership was that?
I live in NJ and there is 7% sales tax here so it might be little more here for me
2013 BMW 328i Sedan (12/20/12 build date)
Alpine White / Venetian Beige Dakota Leather
ZPP Premium Package
494 Heated front seats
4AB Dark Burl Walnut wood trim
508 Park Distance Control
609 Navigation system
MSRP: $44,745 (including destination of $895)
Offered @ Invoice: $41,745 + $300 = $42,045. Subtract Feb $1000 cash offer = $41,045
2013 BMW 328i Sedan
White/Beige
+ Premium
+ Navigation (not Tech)
MSRP: $43,545
Sale Price: $40,950
Rebate: -$1000
Balance: $39,950 pls TTL & Doc fee
What I ended up doing was picking up a 2011 328i Sedan, CPO, only 12k miles, manager demo. Fully loaded @ MSRP of $44k, got it for $30k... AND BMW FS @ 0.9% for 48 months... the numbers and the car are just too perfect to pass up this one. I know it's not the new car but meets all my needs and I personally love the inline 6!
So the 2012 offer you have if for a new body sedan, is killer.
one dealer has given me quote for following car
2013 BMW 328i Sedan
Jet black
Premium Package
BMW Assist
MSRP: $42,000
37,500 + tax+ dmv
Is this a good price?
any help is appreciated...
Dealer is offering this
MSRP 42,645...dealer offer $38,350
36 month lease with .00130 LMF....we will put down $5000 which will leave a balance of $26,866 at the end of the lease.....Dealer said the residual value is 63%
Any information would be greatly appreciated...if you need more info hopefully I can provide it
Talk to your CA about doing MSDs instead--multiple security deposits. These are refundable at lease end and they bring down your money factor (interest rate).
Of course, all of this assumes you want the option of turning the car back in at lease end. If your payment strategy is aimed at eventually paying off and owning the car, then that kind of dp makes more sense.
Neither of us have leased so we are not familiar with the MSD's you are mentioning.
I will do a little research on those...thanks
As long as you did not take delivery, you can change the deal, and if they refuse, just cancel the deal altogether.
2. Even if a dealer did such a thing, that would not exclude negotiating because the salespeople aren't selling units for themselves, they are selling for the dealership management/owner, and it is those folks who need to move units. If they want to move a unit, they will negotiate.
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One sure way to find out, ask them for their "non-negotiable" price. Once you have it, tell them you're just shopping around and plan to see if another BMW dealer is now part of the "non-negotiating" business plan.
See if they let you walk.
MSRP: $49,795
Sale price: $49,000
Customer cash: $4,751.99 (includes adv payment, upfront charges of $3,161.51 and total cap reduction of $2,756.30
Total rebates: $1,750
(Since we are looking at leasing another BMW, they offered to take another $750 off, which is not included below)
36 months/15,000 miles
$584.18 a month
Options include:
Cold weather
Drivers assistance
Lighting
Walnut
Navigation
Thoughts???
We would greatly appreciate your advice as this would be our first lease.
Go back through this discussion and you'll see that others have gotten $3k plus rebates off the MSRP. Wait until the first MLB pitch and the prices on xi models will drop further.
I'm guessing if you see all the figures, they are marking up the money factor and the acquisition fee as well..
Might have an easy $2500-$3000 of total cost to take off that deal..
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Thanks!
So Your Purchase Price is: $44800 ?
($2300 off of MSRP is a good deal.)
- $1000 USAA discount
- $1000 finance incentive
Total = $42800
*
weather mats = rubber mats from BMW for free?
I am in NY and looking to buy 328i xDrive, too. Can you tell me where you got this deal?
Wanted to check if its a good deal or I can negotiate further.
This is first time I am buying a BMW.
MSRP: $43,445
Sale price: $40,795
Total Rebates: $1000.00
Base Monthly payment : 458.61
Tax : 41.27
Monthly Payment: 499.88
term : 36 months
Residual Amount: $27370.35
Money factor/rate: 0.00135
Mileage Program : 10,000
Advance Paments: $499.88
Upfront Charges: $550.93
Total Cap Reduction: $1,149.19 (I didn't understand whats this. Can someone tell me whats this?)
Due on Deliver : $1200
Car has heated front seats,navigation,moon roof, BMW Asst with USB
Thanks in advance!
CUSTOMER DISCLOSURE
Customer Name: Inside Car Buying, LLC
Sale Vehicle: New 2013 BMW 3 SERIES 133* 4dr Sdn 328i xDrive w/AC , Automatic , Odom: 0
Payment Details
Term 36
Base Payment 383.52
Total Payment 418.04
Purchase Option 27,370.35
MSRP 43,445.00
Est. Miles Per Year 10,000
Disposition Fee 250.00
Excess Mileage Charge 0.20
Amount Due at Signing
1st Month Payment 418.04
Acquisition Fee 725.00
Total Inception Fees 1,143.04
Rebate as Cap Reduction 1,000.00
Total Drive Off 2,143.04
Total Cash Required on Delivery 1,143.04
Tax Information
Customer State: Pennsylvania Customer County: ADAMS
Type Amount Rate Paid
Cashdown Tax 65.25 9.0000 Capped
Monthly Tax 34.52 9.0000 Capped
Fee Information
Description Amount Paid
Temporary Plate Issue Fee 5.00 Capped
Transfer Fee 6.00 Capped
Encumbrence Fee 5.00 Capped
Online Dealer Fee 14.15 Capped
Online Reg Fee 16.85 Capped
Any dealers you suggest I should check with?
To be honest here if you do not understand leases DO NOT LEASE.... There are many articles on Edmunds in regards to leasing, what it is, and the lingo that goes with it.
http://www.edmunds.com/car-leasing/quick-guide-to-leasing-a-new-car.html
In brief, cap cost reduction is a down payment on a lease.
And, to compare apples to apples, insidecarbuy is quoting over $1,000 more out of pocket than your dealer to get a lower monthly, too.
Not saying his deal is good or bad, nor if your dealer's is good or bad. Leases can get crazy. It's important to compare everything, from Cap Cost, to residuals, to money factor, to mileage restrictions, etc, etc.
Good luck!
I haven't returned the call yet. Does anyone have a concrete date when the 4 series will hit the lots? I am not inclined to get another coupe that looks just like the one I have. Not sure if I want to pony up the extra $ to stay with the lovely I-6 and move to a 335. I'll take a look at the sedan but if I am going the turbo 4 route I will definitely cross shop the A4. A5 is out as the roof only pops up not slide back and silly as it may sound thats a big deal to me.
I'd consider a 'vert 3 or A5. Significantly more $ I know and to be honest I like the look of the A5 'vert better than the current 3 but thats probably just my eyes looking for something different in the garage. I've never been one to buy the same make back to back much less the same model so this will be interesting!!
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That said, the A5 is GORGEOUS, IMHO! Didn't know that about the sunroof, though. I thought it opened all the way. Sounds like the sunroof in the Caddy CTS Coupe, as it only tilts because of the roofline.
You really can't go wrong with either the BMW or the Audi. Drive both and decide.
BTW....if you get the opportunity, drive an Audi S4. I think it's the best car Audi currently produces.
Agree on the A5. Styling is obviously subjective but I think that is one of the best looking cars on the road at any $ amount. If only that roof slid back it would be a no brainer!
S4 would be awesome. I would like to try to keep the next vehicle under 45k which I couldn't do with an S4 or a convertible BMW or Audi.
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I am new to this forum and pretty inexperienced in leasing cars. I am interested in doing a European Delivery on a 328i lease, 36 mos/12k year. Base MSRP is $36,850 - total with options is $44,970. My understanding is that BMW will give 7% discount on the base MSRP, not the options and that destination handling fee is waived. I am willing to put $5k down. Sales tax in NJ is 7%. Does anyone know what my total monthly payments should be? I am getting some quotes that are all over the place..
Thx.
I love the A5, however for the price, I think the a 4 cyl isn't right engine..
I'm trying to lease a 328i (manual, metallic paint, HK & BMW assist); MSRP 39,820.
Every dealer in So. Fl. is charging a "Dealer Fee" around $599-699 and the discount I'm getting is around 1200-1500 (rebates are on top of these ones).
They are very firm about Dealer Fees so I'm trying to increase the discount, what would be a reasonable value? (invoice seems to be 3k below MSRP)
And also if a negotiate a good deal, and we order the car (manual gear is a killer here), what happens if when they are ready for delivery conditions are better (residual, money factors or rebates), do they usually honor them?
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Fernando
As FN pointed out, the BMW E92 coupe is still on dealer lots and BMW is cutting some sweet deals on the. IMHO, the E series is better than the new F series.
Good luck...let us know how it goes!
How the dealership divides the dollars shouldn't be a concern to you. If they want to pull some of your out of pocket for the "fees", that's up to them.
In short, make one offer, all in, and ask them to accept or reject it. If they reject it, go to another dealer. If they accept it, you just leased a car.
Might want to look at some of the Edmunds tools....
http://www.edmunds.com/calculators/
Very interested in the 4 Series but like many others I'll have a doubt about the F series until I drive it.
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I'm a first time leaser with a time-sensitive question that I think is relevant to a lot of people on this board: Right now, is it worth it to get the 328 coupe or wait for the 4 series?
The 4 series coupe is supposed to come out in a few months, which makes me think about a few issues:
1) Are there really good deals on the 328 coupe right now if dealerships want to get rid of them before the 4 comes out?
2) Will I feel stupid for getting the 328 coupe right now if when the 4 comes out it has a great look (perhaps making the 328i look old) and at a great price
I'm a price sensitive leaser, so I am very curious what the pricing dynamics will be like between the 328 coupe and the 4.
Is it worth waiting for the 4 to come out, or should I go for the 328 coupe right now? What is the best play here?
Thank you all so much for the help.
That said, up until a couple of weeks ago, I had an E92 coupe. I liked it, a lot. It was a 335i xDrive. And, it looked the same as the '13 coupes, with the same drivetrain and underpinnings. Just a great car that you can probably score a deal on.....certainly a better deal than a newly released 4 series will net you.
Drive one and see what you think. If you like it, don't worry about what's coming down the pike. There's always something allegedly better and shinier right around the corner. You'll make yourself crazy chasing it.
Base - 38,850
Black Leatherette- 550 + RearCamera 400 + Moonroof 1050 + HeatedFront 500 + WoodTrim 500 + ParkDistControl 750 + Navigation 2150 + Destination 895
Total MSRP 45,645
Sale Price 42,949.85 [Costco/USAA price: Invoice + $500]
+TTL 44,861.76
-$1000 Finance rebate
-$750 Loyalty Rebate
Is this a good price? Please suggest. Any one getting Invoice or below invoice price.
Regd another $1500 USAA rebate:
I see in prior threads saying anyone can get USAA membership and get this discount after that. Heard that it is applicable to USAA members who affiliated with military. Can anyone clarify on this?
I have a 2011 328i coupe coming off lease in Sept. It is a great car and if it is your first BMW you will be very happy with it. As you will see from other posts here there are some agressive lease deals on 3 series coupes and convertibles out there as dealers want them off the lot before the fall and the 4 series rolls in.
As you have seen from the pics floating around the 4 series looks totally different from the current 3 coupe so you do run the risk of having a 'new' car that immediately looks 'dated'.
I expect the 4 series to be in high demand so don't expect agressive lease rates right out of the gate.
I'm somewhat in the same boat as I'd love a 4 to replace my 3 but am prepared to shop other makes and move to a sedan if necessary.
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Before you jump through all the hoops to join USAA, make sure that the USAA rebate is available with other discounts you'll be seeking. For instance, Loyalty rebate may not be compatible with USAA rebate (I don't know this to be true but have run into this problem before).