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But, the thing is I have totally no idea which one is better.
Can somebody give me a bottom line?
I am considering purchasing either and S5 or 335 convertible. Both are around 60K loaded. Both are very nice rides. The S5 is bigger, faster and perhaps safer (no safety data available). The 335 is a beautiful car and has 4 years routine maintenance and better gas mileage (yes, this still means something to me). I can probably get a better deal on the 335 as the S5 is a bit scarcer.
Which of the two would you go for and why?
Thanks
An S5 order is 8-12 months. The 335 is quicker around the track, the S5 is more of a grand touring car.
There are no "deals" on the S5, the deal is you get one.
how much do you value driving dynamics vs beauty, exsclusivity? That's what it come down to IMO.
I'd get a CPO'd Cayman S. I'm not in to big overweight coupes, although the S5 is beautiful.
The S5 is gorgeous. That's all that I can say positive about it. It's pretty.
FWIW, we currently own an Audi and a 335i. This is my 4th BMW product in 7 years and I look forward to driving my 335i. Get a used CPO 335i and you're really getting a deal - like 40-50% off MSRP.
Also, most CPO units have dollar-based residuals... If you are paying a premium for a highly optioned car, it probably has the same residual as the stripper model... That can make your lease payment hundreds per month higher..
I've yet to see a good CPO lease from BMW, unless the car is new enough to qualify for the current new car rates...
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1 - Buy out my existing 2006 bmw 330xi? Has about 20k miles on it at the moment - I'm expecting less than 25k come September. My car lease was originally set based on a 43595 msrp and 63% residual - how negotiable is BMWFS?
2 - Lease or buy a new BMW - I was looking at either the 335xi or the 535xi. What marketing support / dealer incentive programs are currently out there? How much do I get for re buying or leasing another bmw (is there some kind of loyalty program)? If I lease, what are current residuals and money factors on this car by the way? If I buy, any specials on apr?
3 - Go with another car altogether - maybe an infinity g37 or acura tl. My current payment is low 500s per month (nothing down) - I'd love this to be low 400s. any thoughts?
Sorry for so may questions. Thanks to anyone that helps!
You drive so few miles, you can consider the extended warranty to 6 yrs / 100k miles. Edmund has incentive list, $3k for 335xi none for 535xi. You can check for updates each month. However if you want low 400s forget about any new 335/535/G37.
Did you get the 10k/year lease? You are under miles by a lot, if you do not buy it out, you lose all those miles! I think your best choice is to buy it out. Research market place to see what your 330xi with 25k sells for (Bluebook or real market place).
2007 328i with Auto Transmission
44K Miles
Black
Certified Pre Owned
No other additions.
How did I do? :confuse:
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2020 C43; 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i; 2018 330i xDrive
It has the premium package, the sport package, navigation, bluetooth, and satellite radio. It has 23, 581 miles. CPO warranty expires Nov. 28, 2011.
The car is listed at $28,995. What is a fair price for the car? This appears to be lower than the Edmunds TMV. Any help would be appreciated!
When I bought my used CPO 335i in February Edmunds listed the trade-in value above what I paid. KBB wasn't even on the same planet. Edmunds STILL lists my car's trade-in value at more than I paid (that's with 3k more miles on the car)! They list the CPO price at 7k+ more than my purchase price.
At the end of the day, just lowball the dealer to the high heavens. You have nothing to lose. Yes BMW is selling many used cars, but that doesn't change the fact they're hungry to sell.
In this market KBB and Edmunds values are junk.... I relied totally on old school calculations, I think I failed.... :mad:
Black Saphhire Metallic
Gray Dakota Leather
37,880 Miles
Cold Weather Package
Premium Package
Steptronic Automatic Transmission
Park Distance Control
Navigation System
List Price: $23k
I've got a 2004 325xi with 52,000 miles on it. Basic - not even power seats. It was listed at $16,000. I've gotten the guy down to $14,000 (plus D&H and tax). It's through an auto broker in Cherry Creek, CO.
The other car is a 2002 330xi with 85,000. This car has integrated radar, ipod, harmon kardon, carbon fiber dash inlay, heated power memory seats, auto dimming mirrors, and M steering wheel. This guy wants $13,000 (plus D&H and tax). This car is through an auto broker too.
Any advice if either of these cars are a good deal or not? Which car would you recommend? Thanks for helping out a newbie!
2004 325xi
52,384 miles
Jet Black on Black Leatherette
Cold Weather Package
& Moonroof
Manual Trans
Price: 18,333
Based on that asking price, 16k is probably a fair starting point. When I bought my CPO BMW 3 & a half years ago the sales man said basically whatever price you see take 2k off of it right off the top immediately than we go from there. Also I am in NYC so the volume is probably much greater here than in other dealerships which might explain that.
I'm trying to understand if $14,000 is a deal worth moving on or if I should wait for something more/better?
If anybody can weigh in on which of my two choices is "better" I'd appreciate that. I don't know if newer/lower miles is better than older/more features. I'm not looking for bells and whistles on the car. Heated seats and premium sound don't matter much to me. Just a fun, reliable manual that can last me for another 6 years.
So, for the age and price range you are shopping, you won't find a CPO from a dealer.... If you find an '03 or '04 from a private seller, who purchased it CPO, then you would receive the remaining warranty, though that would likely be 1 year or less at this point.
Used 3-series that are six or more years old are all about condition and maintenance. You want to find one that's been well taken care of, with extensive maintenance records. Finding that car will be more important than the options or mileage..
regards,
kyfdx
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I do a lot of my own repairs (oil, brakes, general engine), but electronic issues are pretty much beyond the home garage repair.
I offered $13,000 on the 04 325xi with 50K on it. The guy hasn't responded to me. I'm thinking that means no deal?!
Now I'm considering an 01 330xi with 94K on it. However, the engine was replaced and only has about 50K on it (thermostat failure cause overheat and engine ruin). He also replaced the front control arms and bushings as well as the belts are new. The engine was also resealed for some small oil leaks.
Thoughts?
A 2007 will probably be due for tires - that's a big CPO advantage right there as they'll replace the tires. Additionally, the longer warranty coverage adds some peace of mind. And BMW won't sell a car as CPO if it's been in an accident. Essentially a CPO'd BMW is going to be in good shape and have an extended warranty. If you are a BMWCCA member you'll also get a $500 rebate on CPO'd cars. Finally, you can often get better financing deals on CPOs.
Yes, all BMWs with ZSP (sport) will feel like the steering is heavy at slow speeds. At higher speeds throttle inputs do a better job of steering the car in corners.
$5 a month isn't worth it unless you live in an area with horrid roads. If you have roads that awful, consider going with it as i know some have mentioned bent/cracked rims as RFTs do not give over poor pavement.
Yes you can put a spare and jack in the trunk but that seems like an awful waste of space for what might happen.
2. Why buy a 40k car and then use cheap gasoline? If you believe the extra $2-3 a week is going to hurt you financially, maybe you should consider holding off on the purchase for awhile?
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2020 C43; 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i; 2018 330i xDrive
2009 335i Sedan
Cold Weather
Premium
Sport
STEPTRONIC Auto
nav
iPod/USB
Destination
MSRP $51000 (+TTL $2083)
Invoice $46845 (+TTL $2083)
They offered : $48785 ($1940 over invoice)
I countered with $47000 before TTL which they balked at.
They threw in a $449 "processing fee" with the TTL. Can I get them to drop that?
The BMWFS rate quoted was 3.9% and a $1500 rebate which will go towards a down payment.
Is this even close to a good deal?
Thanks!
So, that puts them $2400 over invoice, including the fee.. That looks like about $1000 too high, assuming you get the $1500 credit.. So, somewhere close to halfway between your numbers would be fair... or, a little closer to your number, than theirs...
Also, did they tell you that the rebate is $3000 instead of $1500, if you use your own financing? (Actually, I think it's dealer cash). So, you can get 3.9% on your own (PenFed?), then you can save even more.
regards,
kyfdx
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How much should I expect my monthly payment to be around on a 36 month lease @ 10k miles a year?
328i Coupe
Black on Black Leather
Automatic Transmission
Premium Package
Cold Weather Package
Comfort Access
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AAA = come out and slap your tire on your car for you on the off chance you get a flat tire.
Regarding the 2009 335i sedan:
1. if I want to buy new and finance at 3.9% through BMWFS, can I get both the $3000 cash to dealer marketing support and $1500 cash to customer taken off the price?
2. If I lease instead of buy, which of the above incentives, if any, can I expect to be taken off the the price?
The car has a MSRP=$46050, invoice=$42435, Edmunds TMV=$41783.
Thanks.
hpowders
If you pay cash or finance elsewhere, you get $3000..
It's either/or..
I'll have to check on leases...
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Thank you very much!
How much should I expect my monthly payment to be around on a 36 month lease 10k miles a year?
MSRP 43,950
328i Coupe
Black on Black Leather
Automatic Transmission
Premium Package
Cold Weather Package
Comfort Access