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they told me to let the dealer try to correct the
problem tomorrow and he will contact them to find
out if it has been corrected. Maybe I should just
look for another KIA dealer, but they are all a
lot further from my home. Then again maybe it isn't enough work for them when they are not being
paid by me. KIA told me it will be covered under
warranty. It has to be one of the most annoying
noises I everheard, especially from the Sorento. It ran so quiet for the first month and a half, I didn't know it was running sometimes.
night. I think they will probably tighten the belts some and put some belt dressing on them and
send me on my way. If things don't work out, it's
back on the phone with the KIA office.
ArtieJoe
had their Service Department replace all 3 serpentine belts. They said, maybe it will fix the
problem, but are making no promises. They said they replaced all the belts because they might be
missing something wrong with one of them. We'll
see. Any more problems, it's off to KIA/Consumer
Affairs again for help.
ArtieJoe
- alternator
- steering pump
- a/c compressor
- water pump (not sure if that's belt driven in this engine)
All these things are turned by the belts (and more), and it's possible that one of these devices has a bearing failing or something. It's really rare, but new equipment does that sometimes, and it can be affected by temperature/humidity. If the squeal is still there right after the belt change, they may need to remove one belt at a time until the problem goes away - there should be no harm running the engine for a short time with a belt removed. Also spraying belt dressing on the belt with engine running will stop a slipping belt immediately (or at least change the nature of the squeal) - for a while anyway.
By the way, one thing that distinguishes many Asian cars from the rest is that fact that they use 3 belts for all these functions, instead of 1 belt. In my view (just an opinion) this is a good thing because if one belt breaks, or one of the devices on the belts seizes, you don't lose everything else - they're independent. Now I'm rambling...
again - good luck - please keep us posted.
The thing that I fret about is having the Kia service guys ripping apart our new Sorento to do the appropriate repairs and then keeping our fingers crossed they do a decent job of returning it back to looking new.
Also, there are several vehicles that drive the water pump off the timing belt- I just can't say for sure which they are since I have never owned one. (Maybe the Dodge Neon?)
I have to look what people say about the maintenance on Sedona. It is the same engine. Many components may have the layout.
brooklyn1951 - Can you look up the service manual to see if I have to remove the tail lamp assemble in order to change the bulb? It seems there is no access panel in the cargo area.
Timing belt driven water pumps, do these pumps have sprockets/teeth for timing belt or driven by friction ("back" of the timing belt)?
-mike
You can't tow another Sorento unfortunately since you are limited to 1500lbs of un-braked towing (almost all vehicles are limited by this) and if you put the sorento on a trailer, it would be over the 5000lb mark.
Other mid-size SUVs that can tow that much, pretty much all of them I think. I know the Rodeo and Axiom tow 4500lbs. and most other frame-built SUVs in the mid-size range can town in the 4500-5000range.
-mike
Also anything over 3000lbs usually requires you to have a weight distributing hitch to attain those high towing #s.
-mike
maab- The water pump seems to be driven off the "smooth" side of the timing belt. Generally it is done this way to prevent problems- seizing of a water pump driven by the toothed side could snap the belt or strip the teeth. If the engine were of the "interference" type, the still moving pistons would collide with the valves that were open when the belt broke- very expensive!
Also, Can anyone provide an opinion of the Torque-on-Demand 4WD system. Have you had any problems? Are you confident driving it in snow or off road, or does it take a long time to get used to?
thx
Thanks for the info on the service manual. Further, your knowledge seems vast and is really appreciated - not only by me I am sure, but everyone else reading this forum.
Thanks again.
-mike
-mike
I think that it is strange that the TOD transfer case calls for Dexron III fluid, while the transmission calls for Dexron II. To my knowledge, Dexron II was superseded by III which meets all of the specs. That being said, when the transmission in my Jeep GC was re built, the tranny tech used Dexron II instead of the Chrysler specified 7176 ATF. He claimed that it was a superior fluid. Also, it's worth noting that the manufacturers of the transmission (Aisin-Warner {Japan}) and the transfer case (Borg Warner (U.S.)) are not exactly the same. Maybe someone could shed some light on this.
Pics and lots of good off-road info can be found at http://isuzu-suvs.com which is my page. If any of you guys are up for some good offroading you should definitely think about heading to Uwharrie, NC with a bunch of Isuzu and Mitsu folks April 5-7. We always have a good time down in NC. I'll post up more info as soon as they nail down the particulars.
-mike
-mike
-mike
The dealer gave a different 800# to get the manual. not Helm anymore..
Oh and what year is it?
-mike
PS: I was talking IN GENERAL, there are always exceptions to every generality, so step down off your high horse and let's talk about the Sorentos!
AND...to my surprise they have to remove all the interior plastic panels sorrounding the window to replace it. That window is bolted into place in 9 spots around the window frame. The window tech told me that the design is very good, but that those windows are installed before any of the interior panels in production. I assume he is correct, but non-the-less, it looked like a total pain in the [non-permissible content removed] to fix.
Happy Motoring!
Yep the 5000lbs is directly from KIA, basically the hitches they had in the early production were not the right ones so they could only tow 3500. The same problem is on the 4-runners. The "new" hitches are the beefier ones that stick out from the spare-tire area and have a little rubber pad on top of them.
-mike
By the way, for my info, what is the max weight the Sorento can tow without trailer brakes?
I paid $114.00 for the Yakima Low Riders...$20 for the 48" crossbars...and $50 each for the Rockymount bike trays and for mount.
All in all, I am very happy with it. But I will say this, the wind noise is a little intrusive....mostly because of the sunroof. The Yakima wind deflector doesn't fit the vehicle well enough to consider purchasing. I tried it, but it does not extend far enough forward of the sunroof...even with the crossbars moved as far toward the front of the car as possible. So I had to return it.
Anyway...I hope that helps.
For the numbers, the dealer quoted $105.95 for the bike rack. I am not sure if he means two bike trays.
If you look back at my post it say ~1500.
Do you know what "~" means????????
It means "about" about 1500 is pretty close to 2000 in terms of a 5000lb towing capacity!
My GUESS on the Sorento is that it's just like most other Manufacturers of Truck based SUVS and is rated at 1500-2000lbs max towing w/o trailer brakes.
-mike