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  • Stealing someone else's phrase I got over my analysis paralysis and bought a 2004 LT with the sunroof and 6 CD changer packages. With rebates and 2200 on the GM card I am out the door for 17.5 plus sales tax(on the whole damn pre rebate price in Connecticut thanks to our legislature) Acted because the selection of 2004's was getting slim. The car has an April 04 build date and I wonder if I got beyond some of the early production defects. Financed $5K to qualify for the $1K GMAC rebate. I'm impressed with the collaboration of information in this forum and look forward to sharing my own after we take delivery. I am guessing this is a car that I will either grow to like or resent.
  • Congratulations on your new MAXX. I hope you enjoy yours as much as we like ours. Mine has a May 04 build date, and seems to be free of some of the little rattles that some folks have noticed. Mine seems very sound and solid.
  • Max fans might be interested in looking at what Opel and Vauxhall do with the Maxx platform via this web http://vauxhall.co.uk/showroom/search/brand.jhtml?brand=Signum&am- p;vehicleType=Car
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,469
    That Signum looks nice.
  • paopao Posts: 1,867
    mine rolled over 9500 miles this past weekend trip to SC..and still going strong too...except for the minor accident..not near as bad as the one joe had...a side swipe by a 17 year old young lady in a ford explorer...minor damage to the rear driver door and quarter panel....other than the inconvenience....still no problems to report with my burgandy maxx..still solid...with a 02/04 build.....so some of the early build cars do well too!
  • maxx4memaxx4me Posts: 1,340
    sorry about the accident Paul. I hope you had a nice visit with the kids anyway.
  • I just took my first long (400 mi. each way) trip in my three week old Maxx and I'm kind of surprised with the highway mileage...only 28 one way and barely 31 the other. And this was on mostly dry, level pavement with A/C on only about half the time. I had the cruise set at 65 - 70.

    OTOH, the city mileage amazes me...26 MPG in stop and go driving with a dozen or so red lights along the 8 mile commute to my place of business.

    BTW, the above figures are my own actual calculations, not the trip computer's. (It usually shows about 1 - 2 MPG higher, as already mentioned in this forum).
  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Posts: 2,228
    Chevy needs to add the Signum's hatch to the Maxx. It looks like it has much more glass and would have better rearward visibility and smaller blindspots.
  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Posts: 2,228
    And you are disappointed why? The Maxx is rated at 30 mpg and you already exceeded that figure with a very green engine. You should be impressed more then anything. Heck, my current car's 2.7 V6 has never got more then 27 on the highway and my other car's 3.5 V6 has never exceeded 24. The Maxx's mileage is truly excellent for a V6. Give your engine some time to break in. You should start to see an improvement by 4k.
  • My 9500 mile maxx has been improving its mileage (best has been 32 mph on the highway from vegas to LA).

    One worrysome trend, though, is the power steering. I have noticed it is getting jittery, especially if I make right hand turns. I can feel it pulse if I turn the wheel slowly to the right. Has anyone else here had a similar problem?
  • occkingoccking Posts: 346
    How many cars out there will ever get the gas mileage as indicated on the window sticker??? Even though the highway mileage I get is quite impressive (between 28 and 31 on a long trip mostly highway miles) the city driving is even more impressive. Only once did I get below 24 mpg. Maybe I don't do much of what is truly considered city driving, but relatively short trips & not on the highway for more than a few miles at a time. Heck, I have never had a car in the last 10 years that even got the city mileage advertised on the sticker. I would assume at 14k miles, the car is as broken in as it will ever get. I have nad no problem with the steering either. I keep the roof shades open all the time so don't have a problem with them snapping open like others on this board seem to have had.

    I just had to bring an 8 foot aluminum pole back to Home Depot. You know of any sedan out there that could accomodate that without having it hang out the window on the passenger side?
  • OK, maybe I'm just antsy on the highway mileage. My previous car with a 3.8 liter V-6 usually turned in about 28 - 30 MPG on the same roads, and it was only EPA rated at 26 HWY.

    I really like the electric steering...it gives decent road feel, despite what some of the auto reviewers have written about it. No trace of pulsing or jittering. Yet.

    My sunshades have snapped open just once. When I close them I try to make sure the latch is really engaged snugly. Don't know if that helps.
  • Where do you folks live?

    I live in the hills of western PA, and although it's not San Francisco, you pretty much can't go anywhere without encountering hills.

    Our Maxx gets about 19 MPG in what is truly city driving (even though we are in the burbs). Lots of short trips with traffic getting from "here to there."

    I think every car should be tested here...I'd love to see what the EPA MPG would be.

    BTW, if you think our Maxx might have "issues" because of the MPG here's some info that suggests it's fine...the car I traded for the Maxx was a 2002 Isuzu Axiom...rated at 17 MPG city...our normal MPG (same routes as the Maxx) was about 12
  • I want to compliment you and your co-workers on the fine job you are doing with the Malibu Maxx. We took delivery of ours yesterday. I have bought many new cars, and I am very thorough about inspecting them. I can ALWAYS find several things wrong. However, this Maxx has me stumped. It's PERFECT! Fit, finish, operation, all perfect. Not a hint of a squeak or rattle. Between the excellent engineering, and creative design that went into this car, and the quality and pride of workmanship that shows in the final product, this car has got to be the best value in the market. NICE WORK!

    Raoul Renaud
    Davis, California
    MAXX LS 1A
    Light Driftwood
    Build date 5/04
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 11,077
    Welcome to the boards, davismaxx! And we're so glad to hear you like your new car. I read your post on the buying experiences thread, and it sounds like you had an easy time getting the vehicle you wanted at a good price.

    We'd love to hear more about how you like your Maxx as you put the miles on it.

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  • >One worrysome trend, though, is the power steering. I have noticed it is getting jittery, especially if I make right hand turns. I can feel it pulse if I turn the wheel slowly to the right. Has anyone else here had a similar problem?<

    Check: "Problems and Solutions".
    KarenS "Chevrolet Malibu Owners: Problems & Solutions" Sep 15, 2004 11:28am
  • Thanks, maxxliberty...I will contact my local dealer this week and let them know of the problem.
  • Chevrolet Service Bulletin:

    #04-02-35-009 Noisy steering column, lack of power steering assist, diagnostic trouble codes C0460 and C0545, steering wheel moves slightly by itself.
  • paopao Posts: 1,867
    if anyone is interested here is the TSB info:

    #04-08-0110-004A. The correction is to add reinforcement on the left and right sides of the rear sunroof trim.

    Also..took my maxx in for the insurance estimate for repair, The gentleman was a long time GM repair guy...over 25 years...got into a discussion with him on the MAXX and he had nothing but good things to say about the safety features and construction of the car...

    My estimate to remove dents and refinish the drivers rear door and quarter panel $1600 of which $1250 is labor alone...not replacing any parts, simple removal, refinishing and applying the new clear coat. Body labor is 24 hours and paint labor is 9 hours with an estimate of 10 days to repair...... this was a side impact, side swipe at less that 5 miles an hour from a Ford Explorer, so be careful out there!
  • Where do you find out about these service bulletins?
  • Where do you find out about these service bulletins?
  • >Where do you find out about these service bulletins?<

    From posts on other Maxx site: Chevrolet Malibu Owners: Problems & Solutions
    If there is another source I'd like to know what it is also.

    KarenS "Chevrolet Malibu Owners: Problems & Solutions" Sep 16, 2004 1:07am
  • I had an unusual thing which I believe is related to my/our ongoing sunshade problems.

    On Monday, August 30th of this year, my wife and I brought the car to the dealership in quite a panic after discovering large burned out spots on the ceiling above the back seat. I naturally assumed that some electrical malfunction, perhaps in the dome light wiring or the sunroof motor immediately above the burned areas, had caused the problem.

    Upon closer inspection, the guy in the body shop observed that the burn did not appear to have come down from within the ceiling but from within the passenger compartment of the car. We knew we hadn't had anything hot in the car which could have come in contact with the ceiling in the back seat so couldn't imagine how it may have burned. At any rate, it was late so we left the car overnight so that someone in the body shop could peek above the ceiling the next morning to check for burns on or near the wiring.

    The next morning, in the body shop, they showed me above the ceiling that there was no sign of burning and the wiring and sunroof motor were in good condition and working, as they should. The consensus of your staff was that somehow the sun had reflected off something in such a way that it burned holes in the ceiling. We're unable to identify anything we may have had back there that may cause such a reflection; we didn't have any CDs or anything like that back there. The chrome door handles and seatbelt ends are the shiniest things in the back seat. We have no other explanation, though.

    I've asked Chevrolet/GM for help with this. If the sun did cause these burns it most likely came through the rear skylights over the back seat. The sunshades over those skylights are designed in such a way that they won't stay closed. Service records will show that I'd already been in complaining about that. In fact, the body shop had ordered a replacement headliner for me but told me when it came in that Chevrolet/GM recognized the shades were a problem and had notified them that replacing the headliner would not fix it and that they were working on a fix which would be available soon. We try to keep the sunshades closed at all times but they will pop open suddenly and randomly while the car is being driven or even when it's sitting parked.

    Due to the fact that the sunshades were designed and or installed so ineffectively, allowing direct sunlight in, in a way not normally expected in other cars, and due to the fact that the ceiling and ceiling molding materials are of such a quality of materials that they could be so easily melted or burned, I think Chevrolet/GM should accept responsibility for the damage to our car.
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,469
    Yes they should.
  • paopao Posts: 1,867
    there are a couple of sources..some free some not..here is the one at the NHTSA site:

    http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/tsb/tsbsearch.cfm

    This one gives you general information and is a paysite if you want more specifics

    http://www.alldata.com/recalls/

    just do a google search for techincal service bulletins......or ask on the board...or call the GM customer service center
  • paopao Posts: 1,867
    just FYI for all concerned with this issue..it appears the NHTSA is investigating the problem and has upgraded the investigation to an engineering analysis: Investigation was opened on 1 Jul 04, Your voices are being heard!

    ODI OPENED PE04-031 BASED ON EIGHT REPORTS OF ALLEGED POWER STEERING FAILURE IN THE SUBJECT VEHICLES. THE COMPLAINTS ALLEGE THAT THE DRIVER SUDDENLY LOST ALL ELECTRIC POWER STEERING ASSISTANCE WITHOUT WARNING MAKING THE VEHICLE DIFFICULT TO STEER. THE SUBJECT VEHICLE UTILIZES AN ELECTRIC POWER STEERING ASSIST SYSTEM (EPS) THAT PROVIDES VARIABLE STEERING ASSISTANCE BASED ON STEERING WHEEL TORQUE, STEERING WHEEL POSTION, AND VEHICLE SPEED. GENERAL MOTORS DOCUMENTS IDENTIFIED THE FOLLOWING TWO FACTORS THAT CONTRIBUTED TO THE ALLEGED DEFECT IN THE SUBJECT VEHICLES: A. CONTAMINATION OF THE TORQUE AND POSITION SENSOR FROM THE SEPARATION OF GREASE APPLIED TO THE STEERING COLUMN ASSEMBLY. B. ELECTRICAL NOISE GENERATED ON THE POWER AND GROUND SLIP RING SURFACES OF THE TORQUE AND POSITION SENSOR. THE NOISE IS GENERATED AS THE SENSOR CONTACT BRUSHES MOVE ALONG THE SLIP RING SURFACES WHEN THE STEERING WHEEL IS ROTATED. ODI'S ANALYSIS SHOWED FAILURE RATES THAT ARE OF CONCERN TO ODI AND INDICATED THAT THE ALLEGED DEFECT IS CONTINUING TO OCCUR IN THE SUBJECT VEHICLES. AN ENGINEERING ANALYSIS HAS BEEN OPENED TO FURTHER INVESTIGATE THIS CONCERN, TO ASSESS THE POTENTIAL SAFETY-RELATED CONSEQUENCES, AND TO DETERMINE THE SCOPE OF THE AFFECTED POPULATION.

    the website is the same as my message above for the NHTSA
  • jmax4jmax4 Posts: 22
    I completely agree with you. The material the frame is made of should be made of something not flexible and the latch should be in the shape of a hook, maybe, and be attached to something more rigid and not changing its shape. I would prefer to have the shades to be replaced with the design of the front sunroof (my dream) and not go for GM&#146;s suggested fix &#147;To correct this condition, install reinforcement 15227088 on the left and right sides of the rear sunroof trim.&#148; http://service.gm.com/gmtechlink/images/issues/cnt_mo/TLcme.html#- story5
    This makes me think twice whether I want another GM car in the future, if they have such a problem with a small fix like this one.
  • I remember the new rear skylight reinforcements being made of cardboard (not sure if that is true), and simply glued in place along the sides of the skylight window trim. Definitely a cheap fix and helps a little but is no way as good as a hook type holder.
  • pao

    Thanks for the posting...my experience 2 days ago was exactly as explained in message #2130, and Chevrolet fixed it per bulletin 040235009 which is mentioned in one of the NHTSA listings. It seems to work ok, but I intend following up with GM to help me dump this vehicle because I am convinced my wife, had she been driving, could not have safely maneuvered the vehicle to a safe stop. I have an invitation to discuss this further with GM Monday, and will keep people apprised of any result.

    Tricky73
  • paopao Posts: 1,867
    pls do keep us advised....I will be surprised if GM helps "dump" the car however, as the dealer has fixed the problem in good faith..and as of the moment, there is not a "preceived safety" issue as of yet...all thought I realize you think differently at the moment...keep us all advised as to you success....cheers
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