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If your hubby is a handy man and looks over the install instructions (particularly the fog lights) and says no problem - then let him go for it. I am a smart guy, but I have a low frustration tolerance with mechanical things. So if all goes well I am fine, but when they don't I start to wonder "why didn't I just pay them to do this". When cutting or drilling on a new car, I would tend to let the "pros" do it since they do it all the time and if they mess up they have to fix it. Some (most) of the stuff on your list looks pretty easy to put on, so that will be no trouble.
If the stuff is listed on your car bill of sale (even without the install) then you may can make a warranty claim later on if you need to. You did "buy it with the truck" after all
Dennis
i hope things work out for you. Three hours is a long time to drive just to save a few dollars but that's just me. I wouldn't flaunt your purchase to a local dealer. You may have warranty issues and I'm sure you won't want to drive three hours back to have these taken care of.
Trying to offer your salesperson a "pure profit" tip isn't something I would do. I know I would just be embarassed and I would refuse it. A tip would hardly pay for the labor to install those accessories anyway.
As far as the installation, some of those items are pretty easy. The fog lights are a different story. Easy to butcher the car.
Hopefully you will be happy in the end.
Congrats on finally getting what you wanted and having a decent experience at a dealership.
Just a note. If you are actually referring to the Internet Sales Manager, he isn't the peon. The internet sales jobs are given to top salesman who are high earners for the dealership. It's basically a cushy job that they give there better salesman.
As for tipping, I've never heard of tipping a salesman. I think in this case you're probably better off to give him a very gracious thank you.
Greer
The "cushy" job involves trying to ferret out the very few serious buyers from the tons of worthless e-mails and phone calls.
The ones that do it right - online inventory, online or quick e-mail quotes, etc have and will continue to earn my business.
I am sure all the others sitting around their daily sales meeting wondering "How can we increase sales?". How about keeping your web page up to date and answering every e-mail query promptly? Doing it may not earn a ton of sales, but I guarantee it loses sales
Dennis
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But, since you work at a honda dealership, I'll defer to you.
On out of state purchases you'll end up paying the tax in your home state when you arrive with your new car.
There could be exceptions to this but I don't think so.
I am looking at Accord / CR-V. There have been reports on the web of Honda CR-V pulling to the right and that it is a 'feature for sleepy drivers'. Never heard of that one before.
Wondering if others felt anything during the test drive
One of the posts about CR-V pulling to the right is on this website itself. The link is given below
hamman1, "Honda CR-V Owners: Problems & Solutions" #2643, 2 Apr 2005 10:35 am
I'm not sure where the rumor came from or whether it's valid or not, but I haven't had a problem with it.
Other say they have, so it's hard to say.
Just my .02
Greer
I'm a native CA guy and I don't think this is correct unless things have REALLY changed!
For instance, Massachusetts has a sales tax, but neighboring New Hampshire does not. So people who own a vacation home in N.H. register their cars there. However, when they come back to Massachusetts and the car is in the state for 30 or more days in a calendar year, they get charged with having an unreg. M.V. and it is towed.
Most states have such laws or everyone would have there car registered in a no sales tax state.
Thanks.
Most other dealers can't or won't get that low - they say the SE is a "harder to get" truck, etc and want over invoice for it. On a "Regular" EX these dealers will go invoice or below since they have a lot full of them, with only a few SEs they want more money.
Where are you located? Maybe we can steer you toward a dealer that will deal on the SE?
Dennis
But, if you purchase in California, then take delivery outside the state (whether they drive across the Nevada border or ship it to you), then no California sales tax is due.. Of course, you still would have to pay where you register it..
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Also, I saw some discussion about overpriced accessories and installation prices from the dealership. Any suggestions???
Others here may know dealers a bit closer than will give nice deals. They don't seem to get a lot of these in (Honda does not make many or the dealers don't seem to be able to sell as many?) - so it can be hard to find a deal on one if your color.
I use Handa (H&A) prices as a guide for what the accessories should cost:
http://www.handa-accessories.com/crv05.html
They also have the install instructions for all the stuff so you can see if it is something you want to tackle for yourself or not. Something like the fog lamps which requires cutting the front fascia of your new truck and running a wiring harness, etc. That sounds like something we should pay to have done.
Dennis
FYI. I got my pewter SE for $23,150 (171 less than invoice) plus free first service (~30) in Palo Alto, CA (Anderson Honda). Fees (tax/etc.) vary in SC. Effectively I got ~$200 under invoice. I turned down 'all' other offers - extended warranty, etc. It's your money. So, drive a hard bargain!
One lesson learned... my car had 4 miles on it when we signed the paper. When I picked it up the next day, it had 6. Another customer must have test driven the car. Look for one with the lowest miles and once you've signed the paper, test driving your car 'must' be off limits. When picking up your car, test everything (sunroof, heated seats (if necessary, put on the A/C so you can feel it in hot weather!), etc.). Go for a spin & check for pull-to-the-right condition that people seem to discuss. Mine has no problems. Now, it has over 600 miles. Very happy with it!
Hope this helps.
Good luck.
T
Since effica said $23,150 is "171 less than invoice" then we can assume the $23150 is just for the truck. Add the $515 destination and some dealer fees and you end up a lot closer to $24k.
So please try to post what you paid for the truck including the destination fee and also mention the dealer/doc fees. Some charge nothing, some charge $50, some charge $400. A lot of dealers have started quoting just the car or truck, so it makes their deal sound a lot better, then when you go to buy they add the destination fee and their fees and the deal turns rotten. If you post you paid $23,200 and some dealer, then that is what others would expect to write a check for to get the same deal. Imagine their surprise when they add the fees on top of that price?
Thanks,
Dennis
The invoice according to bluebook is 23, 836. Where do I go from there and what do I do? Any suggestions? TIA.....Rita I am in Las Vegas
I'm thinking EX and am not sure what dealer to go to. I live near the new superstition springs honda dealer so maybe somebody has dealt with them?
Should I just offer a bit under Edmunds TMV for the car? I think TMV is about $400 over invoice right now.
I recently bought a 4WD LX for about $900 under invoice at the end of the month; maybe we got lucky. I would expect it should be pretty easy for you to get one for invoice; and probably at least several hundred bucks underneath invoice.
This required going to a couple of dealers (starting with the "upfront lowest price" at www.autofair.com in NH where they just sell for that price), but over the course of two or three dealers we went from about $200 under invoice to $900 under invoice over the last week of the month. Again, we might have gotten lucky with just how much under invoice we were able to achieve, but you should be able to do all right.
Thanks for the clarification. You are right - there is a documentation fee of $45 and some other craps (Sales tax, DMV, License fees, tire fees, etc.). CA sales tax rate is 8.25%. Hence the $1,913.59. The documentation fee aside, I believe the $23,150 does include the destination fee you mentioned.
Here's a copy of my sale contract. Hope this will help clarify things.
So, is it still a hot or cool deal?
Thx & good luck all!
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All I had to do was drive straight on a level road and let go of the wheel. The car immediately and very noticably pulled over to the right. Very interesting.
Oh yeah: The main reason I was posting was to see if anybody had any leads on any dealers with a significant amount of 5 speeds on the lot. Specifically I am looking for an EX 5 speed in either black, dark blue, or either silver color. I really don't want red, tan or white. I am in the midsouth area (Memphis) but have the ability to travel far and wide to find a dealer with one on the lot that I could drive before starting to deal.
Thanks to anyone with any leads.
Thanks!
EH
EH :surprise:
Try Tempe Honda. I got my 2WD LX in 3/31/05 for $450 below invoice. Actually, is more like $150 below invoice, since they included a $300 'doc fee' after I agreed to the $450 below price. Just make sure you negotiate an out-the-door price. In any case, $150 below invoice is not bad at all, and the service was great; I highly recommend them.
PS: Go through their Internet department
Brewster Honda gets my highest recommendation for excellent customer service.
There was no indication of any "PTTR" problem (my CR-V has BF Goodrich tires).
No complaints on this deal!! Now I have to start writing that bad dealership/ good dealership letter to American Honda... I'm just happy that it all worked out for me in the end and I have a shiny new Honda CR-V SE in my driveway!!! :shades: :shades:
Thanks for all the great advice!!
gr8smile1966
Correct, the destination is in there.
Looks like they made $50 plus the $45 fee as profit. That sure is not much on a sale, but a great deal for you!
Dennis
very professional. Connecticut is a tough place to
find a deal on a Honda. Some would not even move 200 off sticker!
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Mahwah Honda, NJ.
21991 + free cargo tray+wheel locks+splash guides
236 for Cross Bars
-750 Trade-in
1776 NY tax! (hate it)
120 doc fee
5 temp plate fee
35 plate transfer fee
Outdoor price 23400.
Hope it is helpful to CR-V owner to be.
Dennis
i will be dealing in the pittsburgh / erie PA, youngstown / cleveland OH area.
thank you