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side air bags for $230. I also checked Grand Honda, and they
offered me $18900 including destination charges. That price
seems pretty good, but not low enough to fly up to Chicago.
Do all dealers charge for "documentation"...or is this just another negotiable item on the sheet?
What's anyone's experience with this?
regards,
kyfdx
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Since this dealership is not convenient for me for service, I have my dealer-necessary service and repairs done at Jim Doten's Honda in Berkeley. I haven't had problems with Doten's service dept. since 1994. They couldn't match the vehicle sales price which is why I didn't buy from them, but I've kept them for service. The fact that most of the service techs and writers have been there longer than I have been a customer should speak something about keeping good employees.
Remember, you don't have be tied to the sales dealership for your car servicing. - "hunnyb"
I test drove a CR-V EX today (2004) but was really wanting to get the 2WD LX. The salesguy should have let me test drive a LX, but I don't think he had any available to test drive at that time. Anyhow, I just wonder if the 2WD LX drives differently than the EX?
Also, the sticker price for the LX that I want is $20,850 and the salesguy gave me the impression that they wouldn't come down much from that price. I think it includes the destination charge as well. And it doesn't have side airbags either.
This is the only Honda dealer in town and there is no competition for miles....so I'm afraid I won't be getting a good deal on this SUV. I checked KBB and they estimated a price of $19,100.
Any thoughts or advice?
Thanks!!
Does anyone know what the going rate is right now through Honda finance? Sam's club has an auto finance at 4.19% for 60 mos but someone on this forum mentioned that dealerships don't like to take checks from outside financing?
Oh what a headache!!
Additionally, I do have a "trade-in"....1994 Honda Accord LX with 120,000 miles and a compressor that needs to be repaired....it's making a rattling noise. I'm thinking that it's going to be a goose egg trade-in....boo hoo.
What to do, what to do?
My final #'s look like this for a cash sale, no trade-in.
20,730 CR-V EX
490 Dest & Handling
21,220 Total Cost
1,273.20 NJ Sales Tax
189.00 documentation
86.70 DMV
22,768.90 out the door price
Planet Honda/Union, NJ
A good shopping experience for me. Negoitated everything on the phone, no surprises when I went in to complete the transaction, and pick up the CR-V. Nice people to deal with. I'd buy from them again.
Thanks to the Edmunds site and members of this forum, for helping me to get prepared for shopping!
All these people who have to pay close to MSRP would be better off flying to Chicago. People are paying more for LXs than an EX here. That's ridiculous. Honda has to service the vehicle no matter where you bought it.
Thanks for the service loc suggestion - way too far for us but someone else maybe can use them.
-elissa
Grand is by far the best dealer in the Chicago area. That price is good for anyone.
I called the sales manager at Grand Honda and asked how do I buy one living in New York State? I need one 2 or 3 months from now and was wondering how do I switch plates, handle sales tax etc. He said Federal law prohibits them from selling to anyone in NY, CA, or Mass and that he couldn't help. He had a broken accent so he was a little hard to understand but that was the sum of the conversation
I think with shrewd use of the internet I can find a Honda dealer somewhere in New York State who is willing to wheel and deal on a CRV. As long as its in New York somewhere, then there wont be any hassle with tax or registration issues.
Any one have and suggestions of a cooperative Honda dealer for New York State?
I see that you are in Rochester. So am I. I also recall how you posted a message about Ontario Honda. I didn't go with them, not because of your post, but because they were only going to offer me $100 cheaper than what I was offered at John Holtz, and it wasn't even the color that I wanted. I wasn't about to drive all of the way out there to save $100 and get my second choice color instead of my blue CRV. So I decided to go with John Holtz. As you may have read, I'm sort of regretting it now since I am STILL waiting for my car. I think you'll have a hard time finding a Rochester dealer willing to sell a CRV-EX for 21,500. I ended up getting mine for $22,300, which isn't a fantastic deal but it's less than a lot of other people are paying in Rochester. Have you checked in Buffalo and Syracuse? What about driving over the border into Erie, PA? Or does PA have a policy against selling to New Yorkers as well? Since you're willing to travel so far to get a good deal, I think you might have better luck finding a lower price than mine.
elissa
for the prices we have to pay now.
Gen 1 manual gets 30 mpg highway (theracoon), gen 2 manual gets 26-28 mpg city (me). How much more do you want? Show me one SUV out there that can break the mid-20's mpgs. I can only think of Suzuki Sidekick from the mid-90's. It was much much smaller than CR-V, and was recalled for tipping over too easily. Escape Hybrid averages 25 mpg. You pay extra $3000 to achieve what CR-V does on its own.
I want a blue one as well but am waiting for the 2005 models to get the anticipated 16 wheels.
Once I get this vehicle and get it paid off within a year, I am treating myself to a Lexus RX330. All I need is to talk my wife into letting me do it.
Well, they have definitely not been overly helpful. Apologetic, yes, but not helpful. I have been without a car for a week now because I sold my old one because I assumed that the CRV would be delivered when she originally told me that it would be. Wrong, so wrong. No offer to give me something to drive, no offer for price reduction, accessories thrown in... nothing. I honestly can say that I never really expected anything from them. What I expected was just the truth... a truthful date instead of two made-up ones. I'm definitely not happy with how things have been going, but besides the fact that this salesperson seems naive enough to venture a guess on a date that she has no clue about, it really hasn't been the dealer's fault. They can't control when the cars are coming in...
So I'm just trying to be patient and wait...
I currently live outside Detroit and there are lots of CRV's available here. I have checked the inventory at some lots both in person and on line and one dealer had 36 another had at least 20. There is no shortage of them in this area. Detroit is only about 6 hrs from Rochester. Try web sites for Honda Bloomfield and Suburban Honda which can be accessed through Honda's website. Good Luck.
Hey hkjcrv, are you listening? If John Holtz Honda takes much longer.... And if your shoes are worn out from walking since you already sold your other wheels.....
Haha, thanks for thinking of me 2year!! However, I've got news... surprisingly, my CRV arrived today and I picked it up about 5 hours later! They were nice enough to "rush it" through the arrival process so that I could pick it up today instead of tomorrow. Needless to say, I am very happy to be done doing business with these people and to have my brand new car! (Which, by the way, I am completely in love with!)
Why is the sticker price $23,500?? They should be asking for no more than $23,040 on the sticker unless there are some extras on it that you didn't mention. $23,500... are these people out of their minds?
Forgot to mention that I am also in WNY, but in Rochester. In this area, these cars are EVERYWHERE. I have a family friend who is a car salesman and he checked it out... dealerships are generally giving VERY few discounts, which definitely is not fair, but people are paying full MSRP for these babies, so they know that if they don't sell it to you, they can sell it to somebody else. The best I could get in Rochester was $22,300 (including destination) for a 2004 EX auto. Maybe you will have better luck getting something lower. Try Ray Laks Honda in Buffalo... I simply filled out a form on their web site to try to see what they had in stock and they called me 4 times a day (no joke) until I finally was able to pick up and tell them to stop. They definitely seem EAGER, EAGER, EAGER!! That could work out to benefit you!
I am looking to buy a 2004 CRV Ex in the Northern Virginia area. I received an internet quote of 22,616 OTD. I wanted a roof rack which brought the cost up to 23,023 OTD. When I told the salesman I wanted a white/manual transmission, he said they could get this vehicle but they couldn't offer me the quoted internet price. It would cost 400$ more to get a white one ( auto or manual) from another city 200 miles away. That seemed like alot to me. I told him to forget it, the 2005's will be out soon. Did this amount seem fair?? Thanks.
I am looking to get a CR-V and I would like an EX but LX is a better deal. when should i expect the deals to come out for the 2004? when are the 2005 coming out? i heard the further south you go the better the deals? i would be looking to finance rather than lease.
thanks,
psyched to get a new car!!!
Sticker (msrp w/o Destination) $22,550
Sticker (with Destination $23,040
Sale price (w/o Destination) $20,530
Destination $490
Sale price (w/ Destination) $21,020
Doc fee $45
Tax $1737
License $192
etc...
1) they don't come out until much later in the year with the new models - November? and
2) they don't discount the last years cars much - that devalues the used ones on the market and lowers eventual resale value for all. Just imagine trying to sell your 2003 CR-V that you paid $23K for when the dealerships are discounting the 2004's to $20K - sort of hard to get a good resale value in that scenario, huh? It made for a miserable trade in value on our '01 Dodge Dakota when the 2004's had a factory to consumer $4k rebate out there. *sigh* Anyway, you can easily get invoice pricing from the internet or fleet sales group at your dealership and likely some good financing rates toward November but I wouldn't hold my breath for $4K off the sticker.
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Price $18096 w/dest Tax 1173.82 (texas) Lic 180.55 Out the door $19450.37 and this includes cargo tray, tint, mud flaps, mats(already included), and pin stripe. If someone has received a lower bid please let me know. I am going to wait a little longer maybe until Aug or Sept to see if it comes down. Because the price dropped $400 bucks after I emailed this person with a quote.
i guess i will have to wait in either case...
wait till november and wait to see what comes of this fire thing...
yuck...i finally decided what i wanted and then this
thanks,
psyched
I would doubt that you will see any major design changes in the 2005s, despite this bad press... seems to me that it is already a little bit too late! If they were to add some sort of shield to prevent oil from spilling onto the exhaust in the 2005s, they would have to recall all 2003s and 2004s to add the shield on them as well. So I wouldn't wait around for the 2005 and assume that Honda will fix the problem on the 2005 models... especially since Honda has not taken the blame for the problem.
I'm a little nervous about my first oil change, but I love the car anyway.
All it takes is normal caution when installing the oil filter and the dealers are WELL aware if this!
Craig...who is taking his wife's 2003 in today for it's second oil change...no worries whatever!