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With all the problems, I just can't see spending 30K+ for it yet.
Sad and lonely (for the Armada).
Sometimes, its better to be rid of a problem than trying to solve it.
to all:
if i come off rude, i dont mean to. there are MANY, MANY people on other boards in edmunds and other sites that post negative information about this vehicle and other vehicles simply to spoil the apples. most of them not only do not own the vehicle they discuss, but have never even seen one in person. this makes me sick, and it has caused my radar to be on the lookout for B.S. are there problems? of course. i dont deny that. but for awhile on here, it even made ME wonder why anyone would buy one of these.
since the armada debuted, i have driven almost 50 different armadas. i have personally sold 8, and neither have i, nor my customers had to deal with any of the problems posted here, so i hope you all can understand my skepticism.
i will try to curb the personal comments, but for those on here (and i know you are here) that are simply maliciously attacking an otherwise quality vehicle, please stop and get a life.
Keith
tidester, host
i have an le with the sunroof. my dealer told me that "nissan is aware of the problem, but as of yet does not have a fix for it" --- that was 2 weeks ago. the truck is setting in my garage because i can't/won't drive it. i have an umbrella positioned from the back seat to the roof to stop it from squeaking me out of the truck when i HAVE to drive it (picking up stuff that will only fit in a truck). a manager from nissan corporate is suppose to call me today --- after i called them again for the 8th time yesterday and got a little pissy with them about no one calling me back.
i like so many things about the armada: the power, towing, room, and really like the drive...very smooth, and the appearance. so it's really a shame that i am about to swear off nissan products forever over this. this is my 5th new nissan product i've purchased over the years, and you would expect that as a valuable repeat customer, i would get better cusomer service. i am also going to call the ownwer of the dealership and tell him that he will also be included in my lawsuit if they/nissan don't give me my money back. nissan could have had the best product in the suv arena ....but they are dropping the ball big time by not making things right with customers like me. hell, if they had made things right with me early on -- i would have considered buying a new one in 2005...but not now. looks like lincoln navigator here i come! btw....i even went as far as going to an infiniti dealer and drove the qx45(?) to see if that "luxury" truck has the roof/vibration problems....it does!!! granted, it was not as noisy otherwise, but has the same roof design flaw that the armada has. good luck to all of you!
Going for another test-drive today. Have test-driven three Armadas since last week and all had the resonance. If I find a quiet one, I'll probably be sold. Test-drove an SR5 as well. Compared to the Armada, has a GM feel -- lots of metal on the outside, unexpectedly tight quarters on the inside. SR5 dash styling looks like planned obsolesence -- and a whole lot like a Corolla. Seems larger in my garage than the Armada (despite the specs, which indicate the opposite). That plus the 40 lb non-folding seats, sway and weaker engine keeps me in the hunt for an Armada.
Have you ever heard resonance in the Armadas you've driven?
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I would laugh out loud if I found out that some of you are basing your buying decisions based solely on what you read on these boards.
i have read a few unfortunate souls who didn't come across the resonance until 3-5k+ miles, and it seems just get worse...
whatever my issue might be, it becomes more noticeable every week. it isn't that bad IMO, but it is annoying... especially since nothing of the sort was heard from any Tahoe i have test driven (and the hefty price of over 36K).
Got my dealer calling Nissan today to try to prod a TSB date out of them. Good luck, I know. I did some research and the 1st instance of resonance mentioned on this board was around October of 2003, so this isn't a new issue. No doubt there are Nissan people who check this board from time to time, so it really makes you wonder if Nissan is actually serious about fixing this problem, or if they just can't because it's inherent. If I end up trying the "fix" I'm going to have them apply dynamat to every possible inch of the roof while the headliner is torn out and see if that helps. I'll keep y'all posted.
Too bad too, 'cause in every other regard this is a great vehicle.
-Nathan
The fit and finish are excellent (inside and out).
The engine and powertrain are phenomenal! LOTS of smooth power at lower RPM. Haven't been over 4,000 RPM yet, per break-in instructions.
Love the cockpit storage, instuments and especially the Nav system. It's more than a toy!
Have not been affected by the dreaded resonance problem, but the headliner shakes like a "Big Dog" when the road gets choppy. If you hold your right hand up, you can feel it with an amplitude of approximately +/- 1/8".
No creaks or rattles at all (yet). As with every new vehicle I've ever bought, I expect some to come with age (and be eliminated by me or my dealer).
Wind noise from the sunroof is quite noticeable at all speeds. It's even present sitting still in a 5-10 MPH wind! Pulling the manual sun shade closed eliminates it. Will get it checked out at my first servicing. This is the ONLY complaint I have about this rig.
btill1: did you install the wind deflector because of the wind noise of your sunroof, or was it already on the unit that you bought?
I can hardly wait to drag my boat behind my new "Bold-Mobile"!
Regards,
Robo Rig
4200 miles on the Galaxy Cruiser LE w/tech and still no other problems, my rotors show no signs of warpage, and like I have stated before, I descend a big mountain at 40+ mph every morning going to work, so if they were going to warp, I would know by now! Perhaps they changed the makeup of them somewhere along the line? My headliner wobbles too, thank god I'm not in the back seat watching a movie (pass the dramamine)I do think they should have done more work on the whole headliner/console/roof deal- If I had any need for the DVD player, I would be more concerned with complaining, but I didn't want it in the first place. I would much rather a wobble in the headliner than the "R" word, soooo.....
I can still honestly say I'm happy with my purchase, I would not have been as happy with the underpowered Sequoia I was also considering. I'm just counting my lucky stars, and keeping my eyes open for any scary developments. But rather than sit in the truck like a paranoid schitzophrenic(I know I spelled that one wrong lol)waiting and listening for something to happen that just might never happen,I'm going to enjoy my truck,and if something SHOULD pop up, I'll have the experience of having been informed from reading the posts of others, and be better able to asess the problem. -.....still scaring little old ladies in Civics..... Tigger
Test drove two Armadas today. The truck I was interested in arrived at the lot yesterday and wasn't ready to drive yet. We drove another. Resonance was noticeable on our bumpy California boulevards at about 40 mph. Not ear-popping, but definitely there. Improved noticeably on the freeway.
Had an idea. Stood on step rail and tapped straight down on roof over the second row seats, near the center channel. Easily 1/4 inch of give and bounce. Salesman tried and was surprised, too. Was like a tin drum.
Did the same thing on the truck that had just arrived. Interesting - definitely rigid over the second row. Big difference! But sounded like tin thunder over the rear third of the truck, with the same amount of give and bounce. Still, given the difference and the fact that this was about as hot off the grill as they get, my hopes were up. We scheduled a return trip this evening so they could remove the white bug paper that it gets delivered in.
Sadly, the resonance was terrible in the brand new vehicle. Had a headache by the time we finished the drive. Salesman couldn't believe his ears.
While headed back for the second test drive, a salesman from another dealer, who has driven a few with me, called. He said a Nissan rep was there today to talk about the Murano, Armada and a few others. Asked the guys whether they had experienced, or whether any customers had complained about resonance.
So we know Nissan is on board. Now, can they fix it? And when?
I love this truck. Anything else would feel like a big compromise. But won't put down 40 Gs for a headache. Will keep looking and hoping.
that is pretty much what i am starting to experience... she was perfect when i first started driving her!! ah...
fortunately, i haven't developed any headaches, but then again, i have a constant headache all day so it might be hard to tell
i noticed how weak the roof is, as well. my 1989 blazer can hold my weight on the roof (don't ask), yet i am afraid to put my cat up there... not that this is a common occurance...
Had to park on a ditch to drop off some friends, the ditch was a lot steeper than it looked. As my friends stepped out, two of them fell - weren't expecting the drop off being so deep. My truck was almost leveled out in the rear!!
I have noticed it kick in while running over a curb about three times, as well (still not fully used to the length and wheelbase). Besides a jolt equivilant to that of a small bump, my baby hasn't even noticed them. Back in my Blazer, any and every curb or elevation felt like the thing was about to tip over...
-- Just figured a more positive outlook on things might lighten my mood. For anyone looking, definately get the Bose and Tow packages!!
Anyone else with (hopefully positive) experiences?
Personally, it seems like all have it, but the drivers might not be as susceptible to it as others... While test-driving one really bad Armada, only one other of my 5 friends noticed the noise.
I am going to take my spectrum analyzer and get a capture of the road noise. That should tell us precisely what frequencies are resonating and how loudly for my particular vehicle. I'll post the results when I get the chance.
I noticed yesterday not only the resonance, but also for the first time a distinctive pressure in my ears. Know when you get on a flight and they pressurize the cabin? It's like that, but it comes on much more gradually.
Anyway..
-Nathan
I've yet to experience the resonance problem in my vehicle or any of the other 5 or 6 that I test drove, but SOMETIMES if i rolled one of the rear windows down I will get that "helicopter blades in motion" sound and feeling in my ears which I think is just wind buffeting. The "helicopter blades in motion" feeling is an uncomfortable pressure in my ears and across my body. I've gotten that exact same sound and feeling in my Mitsubishi Eclipse from time to time when I'd roll down a window
I would think that even if I can't hear the noise associated with the resonance, I would still feel the 'popping' sensation in my ears that everyone describes.
On a much more serious note, I've still yet to receive my 'Grinch' DVD that was stuck in the DVD player when it failed 3 months ago.
-N
I'm about 6'5", so it's fairly easy for me to see the top of the vehicle while standing on flat ground. Tonight I headed out to the beast to get my wallet. On a whim I opened the back door up (fairly quickly) and my roof buckled like I was in the San Fran earthquake. Aaha! Same thing when I shut the door. It was quite obvious at that point. I've never seen a vehicle do this to this extreme.
Try it out- it might make you laugh (to keep from crying)
-Nathan
Dboogie: Seems to make no difference whether any windows are open.
Adjmcloon: My wife says she has not noticed it. My teenage son says he hears it. Salespeople say they hear it -- but only after I point it out. Wish I were one that doesn't. Beyond that, wonder if our poorly maintained California roads factor in.
Wonder why they could fasten down the roof half-way back, but not all the way to the rear gate. Maybe some molded cross-support is needed. Sure wish they'd figure it out soon. I want to buy one.
They tested it out by turning it off with the computer, turned it back on and the noise came back. Still no noise anymore.
-N
also, my sideview mirror occasionally pops out of place when i close my door, and twitches terribly while adjusting, somewhat like how the mirror will bounce back when it reaches its adjustment limit.
on a positive note, contrary to what i have read, the bose quality is excellent in my opinion, granted that you are listening to an aux source or cd. - compared it to a few "high quality" car systems.
In my opinion the Bose will do the job well enough.....until i save up my money to replace it :>). That may sound like I'm slamming the Bose but I'm not; its just i know I can get better with aftermarket. I think it sounds pretty good.....for the driver and front passenger. I was sitting in the second row the other day while my wife drove and it just seemed as though the full "impact" of the music was designed for those sitting up front and everyone else in the vehicle was a second class citizen. I need to figure out what size speakers this thing can hold. I have JL Audio all the way around in my Mitsu Eclipse and I love the way they sound! If they fit in the Armada I'll probably put them there as well. Too bad JL isn't making a StealthBox for the Armada.
I get a metal hitting plastic sound when I turn, particularly if it's turning onto an incline. Sounds to me like there's some rubbing going on between the plastic on my rear gate and the metal frame. No biggie (assuming that's what it is) but I haven't had time to get to the dealer for it. I had a squeak on my driver's side door when I picked up my Armada the 1st day.
Those types of things don't bother me, as any new vehicle is going to have minor squeaks and rattles from time to time as the plastic settles in- particularly on a 1st year vehicle.
The resonance thing sucks though. Oh well, I'll be patient and wait for the fix to come out. As long as Nissan makes it good, it'll be alright. Mine isn't bad enough to not be patient (yet).
it might be because i could have paid the same amount for a 4runner and gotten every available option, plus the quality interior and reliability toyota claims. paying cash for a vehicle makes one notice every flaw...
not saying i dont love my baby, i don't think i could be happier with anything smaller or slower
The May/June issue of Truck Trend has a comparison between several full size SUV's. The Armada was rated worst in interior noise while driving (70.0 dBA).
Quote: "the Armada accumulated an extra 4.5 dBA (when compared to Durango and Sequoia) - this is significant when you consider that an increase of 10dBA represents a tenfold jump in sound pressure."
The article goes on to say that, "our test equipment's rapid data logging rate reveals that the Nissan further suffers from a fast drumming effect that quickly flutters the decibel level over a full 10dBA range."
They go on to joke that, "fortunately the Armada comes equipped with an antidote: an excellent sound system."