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But it is otherwise an excellent, a work of art, I would say.
Jason.
I checked under the hood and the hose is still attached. I tried the gas cap, and it's tight. The only software problem I've heard of is for the 4 cylinder, not the 6 cylinder.
Does anyone have any ideas? I'm taking it in to get looked at on Monday.
I guess this is finally an excuse to get that rattle fixed. Still haven't taken it to a dealer, and I noticed the rattle the day I got the car. It's been almost four months!
Also, I timed a four mile stretch of highway at 70mph. I completed it in 3:26. That averages to 69.9mph- my speedo is correct.
Therefore, my tachometer must be wrong, and my mileage sucks. Scroll up for why.
The dealer said he needs to wait for pins to come in before fixing it.
Can I remove the panels myself or am I going to make it worse?
Jason.
Turns out my gas cap was loose. OK, before you laugh, I had even double checked this! OK, no, really, don't laugh!!! I turn it until one click, which to me signifies that it is properly torqued.
Nope, it was explained to me that the cap must be tightened to two clicks of the cap or the vapors will leak and the CEL will come on every time.
Ugh.
But in the meantime, I'm driving an '02 626 v-6: what a POS!
Me, I'm waiting for the Mazda3.
(And don't take me for an uninformed Mazda basher -- I'm the previous owner of two 1992 Proteges and a 1994 B2300, and right now there's a 2000 Protege ES and a 2002 Protege5 in my driveway.)
But this Mazda6 is starting to sound like my B2300, which was a rebadged Ford Ranger and literally spent at least one day a month in the shop for the whole, excruciating five years I owned it. (I still have the inch-thick pile of service receipts to prove it.) Thank God the Proteges are still all-Japanese under the hood!
Meade
P.S. OK Maltb, fire away!
And I understand first-year woes, I really do. And I hope Mazda works them out. I was sold on purchasing a 6 for my next car in a couple of years, but the appearance of the 3 has me taking a hard look at them as more information appears.
I'm just yankin' y'alls' chains really. I like the car. Tell me -- is there a fix already for this CEL problem? Or is Mazda "taking whacks" at it?
Meade
P.S. Maltb: Yep, whatever!
P.P.S. Alcjew: "M" = "Motorcraft."
Where have you seen the 3? I did a search on it and all I found was one useless shot (http://www.amazing.com/david/portfolio/auto-show/mazda-3.html). It's not even listed as a future vehicle here on Edmunds, which is kinda strange since it's coming out in 2004 (at least that's what I thought I read somewhere) Just wanted to see it, if there are indeed pics of it
This Protege replacement, currently called the MX Sportif in Japan, has the front-end looks of the 6 (which apparently Mazda is trying to make the brand-standard for their vehicles) and takes some rear styling cues from the new RX-8 (or so they say; I have a hard time visualizing it). It's a lot sharper and more European looking than the current car.
Here's the link right to the "horse's mouth," so to speak (the pics are of the 5-door version, but if you look through the Mazda3 discussion you'll find some links to the sedan views too):
http://www.mazda.ca/english/40.htm
Meade
Yeah, the Protege/3 drives great and all that. But if you want a small car that drives great, get a Miata for gosh sakes!
Kids today, I swear...
As for the 6's problems, what, a few rattles and a number of check engine lights? On a NATIONAL bulletin board? Looks good to me! People post when something's wrong. I don't post and say "hey, it's week 4 of my 6s running like clockwork!"
And keep in mind that the CEL lights don't disable the car or damage anything -- it's a light on the dashboard and the inconvenience of having to visit the dealer a couple of times. Not like getting stranded on the side of the road.
Fact is, the very few reports of problems here and on the Mazda6Club.com boards actually bode very well for the 6. I had a CEL right away, got it fixed, and the car's been a blast since.
And call it superstition, but I'm not one to tempt fate by proclaiming how good/bad the car runs.
Oh by the way, mdaffron, M in M6 means MAGNIFICENT in my vocabulary. Motorcraft is Ford's parts division not their vehicle division. Just "yanking your chain"!
http://www.carpages.co.uk/mazda/mazda_6_17_06_02.asp
http://www.mazda.com/publicity/public/200209/0927e.html
Jason.
Both ports in the 6 are dead in the key off position.
Lock the car.
Next...
Next!
Have you ever gotten across 110 VAC line voltage? I have. It'll get your attention faster than you can say "defibrillator".
No?
Check out
http://www.intelab.com/swem/an_automotive_electrical_primer.htm
(Search for the word tongue on the page - I have seen this technique used before.
And I positively remember having a small (1.5 V battery-powered) electronic kit with reconfigurable circuitry when I was a kid, and one of the experiments included finding the resistance across human skin. They mentioned something about sweat affecting the resistance, as well as humidity - so of course I tried it on my tongue Felt tingly - no other side-effects (that I know of!)
I have a year to buy the extended warranty. Anyone think it's worthwhile or would I just be wasting my $$? I do have some concerns over the long term reliability of the engine, given that it is (in part at least) part of the Ford family.
I have this problem, and I'm glad you wrote and described it better than I could have: the "rattle" I have I was going to describe as an old- fashioned telegraph, but your description of a Geiger counter is better.
It seems to be emanating from the console/seat area; as I drive, I swear I hear it come from under the front passenger seat, or under the center console, or sometimes just behind the console area. It is not loud, but definitely audible (and highly annoying)
Well, I guess misery loves company. At first I thought it was the styrofoam that surrounds the spare tire--I thought it was the foam squeaking against the metal. I put felt down around the area, and it seems to stop for a day or two, but maybe that was just a coincidence. I may still try to place the felt down in a different way to see what happens. My sound is definitely emanating from the rear seat area.
I'm afraid it is somewhere else in the car...perhaps even in the rear curtain airbag or the leather seat. There may be styrofoam in a lot of places, so we may be on a wild goose chase. In one of his posts, aardog21 suggested it was a catalytic converter shield. However, when driving in this morning, I am almost certain it is in the passenger compartment.
Let me know what you find, and I will do the same. I posted a similar message on the "Mazda6" board, but it did little to stir the faithful away from their car worship. You'll see in that post that I took my 6s to the dealer, only to have the damn sound go away immediately upon arrival at the dealer.
I'm also at a disadvantage in that my wife can't drive the MT, so I have to get one of my friends to drive it to diagnose the problem. There are lots of squeaks and rattles when my wife attempts to drive it!
Good luck!
I bet we are not the only ones suffering from this malady. This noise did seem to abate the other day whilst the weather was a bit dry and warmer (I am in NJ), but it's back with a vengeance.
I have cloth int. so it's not your leather. I haven't yet had a chance to ride shotgun in an effort to localize it, but will report on this as soon as I do so.
By the way, I now have a 2nd rattle: something is resonating in the right dash/glove box area. It is not something IN the glove box, either. Funny thing: it resonates when excited by vibrations from outside the car, such as today when I was behind a delivery truck!
My car is 3 weeks old, with 1000 miles on good roads. I am afraid this does not portend a good future for this car.
Maybe wvelez and I can borrow your CD to drown out the cacophony of our rattles. I hope you stay rattle-free.
They are all very much affected by temperature, when it goes warmer they are a lot less prominent.
Jason.
Jason.