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(Otherwise Carmax would've been asking more for the Protege, no?)
Meade
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The P5 is one of my favorite Mazda's. Great car.
Likely the P5's higher value has 2 factors contributing to it: The fact that it was the highest-line model is one, and the fact that it's much more rare than the sedan versions is the other.
I proposed a plan earlier to settle the dispute, whereby two owners (one with the problem and one without) get together for a testdrive. That way, the complainer could confirm "Wow, your AC works great!" and the other could admit "Geez, your AC is awful!"
But it's the new ST that's tuned right, 'cause the Street Edition, which has Euro-spec suspension but American-spec steering, I test drove rode a little too firm while the steering is too light for the 16"s.
The '05 ST comes w/ a newer-tuned steering & the SVT shocks/swaybars but w/ std model's springs.
It's still too noisy for today's standard. You might as well check out this...
creakid1 "Ford Focus 2005 release date" Sep 4, 2004 4:48am
but can only dream, 'cause it's not coming to America!
It starts with a car with the Sport Pkg and Leather....then you add the SP23 features
1. 17'' alloys with high gloss finish
2. auto on/off headlights
3. Rain sensing front wipers
4. SP23 badging
5. Carbon Gray Mica (only avail color)
6. LED rear combo taillights (5 door only)
7. Leather seats and door panels.(saddle brown or black)
8. heated front seats
9. pollen filter for a/c
10. Bose 5000 series dig amp w/5 channels 7spkrs
11. In dash 6 disc changer
12. sirius compatible radio
13. inst panel trim inserts
14. steering wheel trim inserts
Option pkgs...
SP23 security pkg...
--ABS w/ EBD
--Dual seat mounted side airbags
--side air curtains
--TPMS
--Theft deterrent
stand alone options
Auto trans
Moonroof
Navigation
I only have draft/prelim pricing so I wont get into that yet....but it will be interesteing to see what y'all would pay for the SP23 pkg.
Rich
Seriously, looks like a nice package but I won't be too sad to have missed it since it appears there's nothing in there that's gonna make it any faster or handle or brake any better than my regular S.
Wonder if the LED taillights will swap out for the bulb type?
What I really want is a HB with a good beige trim and 16" alloys.
Fowler3
P/U trucks don't sell as well in CT as in Iowa.
you ask.....Maybe these dealers in the Midwest should order fewer cars, balance supply and demand. Then Mazda could ship more cars to the states with the biggest demand....
Great theory but...How would you like to tell the dealer in Lincoln nebraska who just spent $4 million to get a Mazda franchise that he can't get what he earned because the dealers in CT have more demand for the product? If all the dealership were owned by the factory your idea may be possible...
Is that common with other 3's?
I feel slighted now that my cars don't have this useful backup feature. I gotta get a Mazda3!
Interesting related fact:
As you probably know, on a hybrid the gas engine almost always quits when sitting at a stoplight, and initial takeoff is electric only. There is no engine noise or vibration at all while sitting at the light--dead silence.
Toyota found in developing the Prius that this would often cause new, uninitiated drivers to reach down and turn the key to restart the car.
As you know in the stoplight scenario there is no real reason for the electric motor to run, either.
Toyota's solution to the problem of people reaching down to start the car because the engine died at the light was to build in artificial transmission creep. So if you're stopped at a light in a Prius and ease off the brake, the car creeps forward just like a normal car stopped in D.
not an expectation
Some have reported that the outlet vent temp when using outside air and leaving the compressor off is significantly higher than the ambient outside air temperature.
On my previous car, an 01 Nissan Sentra SE, I noticed this to be the case--at ambient temps in the mid 60s the air coming out of the vents with compressor off and fan on was about 10-15 degrees warmer.
Having encountered this on Toyotas and fixed it by adjusting the heat damper door cable, I tried the same thing with the Sentra and it didn't change anything.
In the last week or so our overnight temps have dropped to the point that it's in the mid-60s when I make my drive to work. Although I haven't actually stuck a thermometer in the vents I have noticed that the vent outlet temp on my Mazda 3 with compressor off is not nearly as warm as it was on the Sentra.
This would lead me to think that there is something different about my car vs those who are reporting significant warming of outside air at mid-60s ambient temps, and that it could be as simple as adjustment of the heat damper door cable. I don't know how difficult it is to access this cable at whichever end the adjustment is possible or even if it's made in such a way that any adjustment is possible in the first place. My dash area is totally rattle free and I'm not about to start disassembly to try and find this since I don't need it anyway, so maybe someone ought to mention this to a dealer as a possible thing to look at and see if they can get them to at least check it.
For whatever it is worth this is what I think.
First the system is just plain weak - compared to every other car I have ever owned this is the worst AC.
But I think the reason I seem to have a bigger issue than some is because I spend a fair amount of time stuck in stop and go (more stop sometimes than go) traffic.
When at idle the vent temp goes up to 68 degrees, so when I am stuck in Houston traffic on a 90 degree day the inside of the car just becomes unbearable.
I know that all auto AC systems have a performance drop while at idle - but 68 degrees is just plain not cold enough to do any good.
My other vehicles - by comparison blow air at idle that is around 55-58 degrees. They also have a stronger fan - so they really pump out the air flow.
It's a bummer Mazda hasn't responded to this issue, there seem to be plenty of people across the various Mazda discussions that are experiencing this. Mazda had been developing a good reputation the past few years. It's a shame they are allowing something like this to linger.
Barry42
So could it be that a car makes less hp at higher altitudes which in return will give you better mileage? I've always wondered this.
Seriously, I've driven a number of cars with instantaneous mpg readouts on their trip computers, most high end Toyotas have this and I work in a Toyota dealer shop and test drive a lot of them after working on them.
The mpg dips to horrendously low numbers under acceleration, whether it's gentle or not so gentle, and goes way up during cruise. I think slow acceleration increases the amount of time the car's getting really poor mpg before levelling out at cruise whereas quicker speed up, short of out and out flooring it, gets one up to high mpg cruise sooner and wastes less gas.