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I guess I'd prefer the cash over being the first kid in my neighborhood to get a new bike... but that's just me. :shades:
Purchased: 2010 4Runner Limited Blizzard Pearl - no added options
Paid: Trade-in - 2004 4Runner Sports Edition w/ 59,800 miles
Cash: $24K
In other words, my old 4Runner + $24K = Out The Door (including tax, tag, title, and everything else).
I'll leave it up to you to decide how good a deal that was.
Trade In: 2007 TCH (Toyota Camry Hybrid) around 50,900 miles
Cash: $23,995
Vehicle Purchased: 2010 4Runner Limited 4WD with NAV and Carpet Mats (MSRP: $42,314)
Notice about my trade in:
Toyota dealer tried to sell my ex 2007 TCH almost 3 months ago at $23,000 and finally was sold a couple of days ago at $17,988 since its value was affected by the recall... so, I did excellent with the purchase of my 2010 4Runner at invoice considering I got it at the end of Dec. 2009 and my trade in valued at $16,560 ...
Today I got an offer to order a TE for $34,500 that does not have KDSS and its accompanying NAV system. It'll take three months to arrive from Japan, but it should have close to zero mileage and if no other offers come in by tomorrow, I'm taking the deal.
Truecar.com puts $34,500 at $488 over invoice and after about ten hours free time spent visiting dealerships and talking on the phone and emailing, I'm thinking it's worth it.
I received an offer for a TE on the lot for less than $34,000 from McGee Toyota in February. I think its in Maryland. Too far for me to fly and drive back. Appears to have been sold. The salesperson was kind to let me know what invoice really was (truecar.com had it wrong at the time), perhaps I could return the favor.
I wound up with $34,300 from Mechanicsville Toyota in Virginia. I got an offer of $34,375 from Casey in Williamsburg, VA but chose the other on price and it was closer to home.
2010 4x2 Limited 37,765
Mats 299
leather 3rd row 1,015
Running Boards 499
Color (Blizzard) 220
Nav 1,420
Delivery 795
Total MSRP $42,013.00
Discounted Price $38,859.00
TTL 1,887.68
Out the Door $40,746.68
What do you think?
Hate to say it, but with all the 'improvements' Toyota made with the 2010 model, I'd be looking at another brand. Even a 2010 JGC with a Hemi, NAV, and 4wd can be had for less. A 2010 JGC V6 4x4 can be had for $11,000 less without the leather and NAV, but with full-time 4wd and 0% apr. Sure, you'd get Jeep's so-so reliability, but its worth a look.
Good luck on whatever you choose. Fwiw, I have a 2003 4Runner, but I wouldn't purchase the 2010 4Runner. I would consider a 2010 Sequoia otoh.
True, but a 2010 4runner SR5 V6 4WD would also be less expensive (and minus the leather and NAV) than that Limited and would be a better comparison for that 2010 JGC.
The 2011 Jeep GC looks interesting (and very competitive, at least on paper), but there's no way I'd consider the outgoing 2010 model. There is a good reason why Chrysler has layered on the discounts on the 2010 model -- it needs to clean 'em out before the significantly improved 2011 model arrives and makes the 2010 even more difficult to sell.
Agree on the 3rd row seating, though. IMHO, anyone who needs to use the 3rd row for anything more than the occasional emergency should be looking at a minivan (that 2011 Sienna looks really nice).
Dealers still hasn't provided me a verified VIN # or a delivery date.
Disappointed with the 2007 deal falling through (Wouldn't come close to TMV), made a 2 hour drive, test drove the loaded sport with Nav, noticed just the slightest ticking noise in the engine, hightailed it across town to the other dealer...2nd car just purred....and I just knew in my gut I had to have that 4Rnr. Purchased for a bit under Edmunds TMV for that SUV with options.
I'd been test driving everything, BMW's, VW's, Lexus, Tahoes (or ho ho's as my 6 yr old calls em.) This toyo fixation came to me in the 11th hour. So far I got a cherry. 2008 with 36K mi, dog pee on the mats which they ended up giving me new generic mats and a full tank of gas to hit the road home. Great experience all in all. Can barely sleep it is so awesome.
Sam Swope Cadillac in their Automall in Louisville absolutely bent over backwards for me and the buying experience was painless and smooth.
My dealership was Toyota of Hattiesburg (MS) and I had a very good experience buying the car. It only took about one hour to complete the deal, start to finish, and I was on my way. They've been very good about answering my questions following the sale, and also answering questions about the Toyota recall.
I subscribed to several services to help me arrive at the correct price for my 4Runner. What I learned was that, pre-recall, there were no discounts to be had on the 2010 4Runner. I looked around for a 2010 4Runner and eventually paid the full sticker price of $43,850, plus tax and title for a 2010 Limited with every possible feature, except no third row seats: mine has the pullout tailgate party package. I should note that the dealer gave me $5,000 for the X-Terra mentioned above, which was probably $2,000 more than it was worth. The new 4Runner has been a great car so far, and I have few complaints (the interior lighting is not very good, and the USB port is in an impossible spot to access). I love the full-time 4WD---it was great with the bad weather, snow and ice we had this winter.
However, all of that being said, I parked it last month and have not driven it again. Unlike die-hard former 4Runner owners I read on the blogs, I am afraid that Toyota is not fully disclosing everything, and that the 4Runner is the next shoe to drop. I've read several credible accounts of unintended acceleration in the 4Runner, and frankly I just don't want to wait to find out. I know I'll take a beating on the sale (it has 5,000 miles and 2 dealers have offered me $35,000 to buy it) and I would prefer to keep it if someone can tell me definitively that the system used in other Toyotas is not the same one used in the 4Runner.
I tried to swap it this weekend for a 2010 Ford F-150 King Ranch Demo with 5800 miles, but haven't yet been able to reconcile myself to the financial beating I'll take. I'd really prefer to keep the 4Runner.
Any comments, suggestions and advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
Of course you had a good buying experience, you are a car dealership's dream - you paid full price for a vehicle that, had you dealt with dealers, could of been discounted to @ invoice or about 500 over invoice. There is no party mode/sliding tray "package" as you suggest - those are standard on the Limited. A Limited w/ Navigation (no third row seating) and a few other throw in options (floor mats, exhaust tip, cross bars) should cost under $43,000. Looks like you paid additional dollars for dealer stuff, undercoating, weather protection, etc.
You clearly state that you like your vehicle and it seems are basing your decision not to drive because of rumors that can not be substantiated. Should you trade, you indicate that you'll get $35,000 for your Toyota - a loss of about $8,500. Sounds like a fear based decision without much fact to support your assertion.
If you're willing to take a loss that great, based on fiction rather than fact - that's your decision, though fiscally seems rather ill-advised.
Sounds like there's some other underlying issue here that you haven't documented in your post.
URL to article: http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-toyota-4runner-exhibits-acceleration-brake-sy- mptoms.html
If you wish for me to, I will post links to additional articles on acceleration, as well as linkage, transmission, rust and related problems with the 4Runner which Toyota has recently owned up to, but of which 4Runner owners have long complained.
No, I am not a car-bargain shopper, and there were a ton of dealer-installed goodies...it's a great vehicle. However, there is nothing I'm failing to disclose in the post. I am concerned about Toyota's failure to own up to the other problems in their extensive line. I hoped by posting here, someone who had similar concerns might help point me in the direction of information showing that the 4Runner should not be expected to experience problems.
Sounds like you just want to stir the pot. Or you purchased a vehicle and didn't think it through - which is evident by the price you paid for the vehicle.
Why don't you take your vehicle back to the dealer and make them buy it back.
:P
I have not read ONE REPORT of SUA on ANY 4Runner forum involving the 4th generation.
I have 75,000 miles on mine with just a sunroof that got off-track and one shock that leaked. I tow a 5,000 pound 21 foot travel trailer on a regular basis.
You basing your decision not to drive yours based on ONE REPORT on the net? After all, everything you read on the net is TRUE, isn't it?
I am interested in a 2010 4Runner trail, and am interested in knowing what the going price is in Southern California. I'm looking for one with the KDSS. I have a quote for 36,600, is this a good deal for SoCal?
Thanks.
1. Base Price: Inovice $25,674 (MSR $29,175)
2. 2% Hoold Back: Invoice $583 (MSR 0)
3. 1% Finance Reserve: Invoice $291 (MSR 0)
4. Total Options: Invoice $3,351 (MSR $4,259)
5. T.M.F: Invoice $ 870 (MSR 0)
6. Delivery: Invoice 850 (MSR 0)
Total: Invoice $31,619 (MSR: $34,289)
Final:
Selling price: $31, 700
Tax: $1980
Title: $110
State Inspection: $24
Doc: $190
Deputy Service Fee: $5
Inventory Tax: $74
OTD = $34,083
Convenience package, 3rd row seating, power seats, running boards
MSRP 34,074
Paid 32250 + TTL in SoCal
Finance guy was a jerk. Tried to pull a fast once with interest rates by getting you to focus on the payment and extending the term.
I am looking to get a 2010 4runner and wanted to see what everyone was seeing in terms of APR. Thx in advance for sharing.
- FYI I'm planning to put 30% down and my credit is excellent; I am looking for 0.0 or 0.9 or something similar
They started at 5.9, got them down to 3.9 and 3.75 sealed the deal.
Thank You
Details:
Sport Fabric-Trimmed 8-Way Power-Adjustable Driver's Seat With Power Lumbar Support And 4-Way Power-Adjustable Passenger Seat
Remote Engine Start
Window Tint
Night Vision Auto-Dimming Mirror
Xm Satellite Radio Includes:~6 Months Complimentary Xm Service
Premium Carpet Mat Set Carpet Floor Mats~Rear Cargo Mat
Ball Mount
Cargo Cross Bars
Vehicle Shield Package Lusterizing Sealant~Sealant Cleaner~Fabric Guard~Rental Car Assistance
Color-Key Rr Splr W/ Intergated Rr Wiper
Front Fog Lamps / Rear Privacy Glass
Color-Key Bumpers
Rocker
Overfenders
Heated Mirrors W/ Turn Signal Indicator
Chrome Roof Rails
Accented Fr Grille
Door Handles And Rear License Garnish
Integrated Tow Hitch Receiver-Max 5000lb
Homelink Universal Transceiver
Remote Keyless Entry System
Cfc-Free Climate Cntrl W/Rr Vent And Filter
Am/Fm/Mp3 Cd W/8 Spkrs
Aux Audio Jack
40/20/40 Split Reclining And Fold-Flat
2nd Row Seats W /Armrest W/ Cup Holders
Rear Clearance Sonar / Tilt/Telescopic
Steering Wheel With Cruise Control
Pwr Auto Up/Down Windows/Pwr Door Locks
2 Fr And 1 Rr 12v Auxiliary Power Outlets
Orange Illuminated Instrument Gauges
Multi-Info Display W/Time
Cruise Range
Fuel Consumption
Temperature And Compass
10 Cup And Bottle Holders(12 On 3-Row Mdls)
Variable Flow Control Power Steering
Fr And Rr Vented Disc Brakes
Fr And Rr Stabilizer Bars And Skid Plates
17" Alloy Wheels
P265/70r17 Tires
4.0l V6 Dohc 24v W/ Dual Vvt-I Engine
5-Speed Auto Transmission W/ Ect-I
270hp / 278-Lb-Ft Torque
Active Trac
Part-Time 4wd System W/ Transfer Lever
Hill-Start And Downhill Assist Control
Dr And Fr Pass Advanced Airbag System
Anti-Lock Brakes W/ Ebd And Brake Assist
Star Safety System - Includes Vehicle
Stability Control + Traction Control
Dr And Fr Pass Knee And Tap Side Airbags
Fr And 2nd Row Roll-Sensing Side Curtain
Airbags
Dr And Fr Pass Active Headrests
Tire Pressure Monitor System / 2nd Row
Latch(Lwr Anchors And Tethers For Children)
Options:
Sport Fabric-Trimmed 8-Way: $530
Power-Adjustable Driver's Seat With Power Lumbar Support And 4-Way Power-Adjustable Passenger Seat
Remote Engine Start: $529
Window Tint: $199
Night Vision Auto-Dimming Mirror: $165
Xm Satellite Radio: $449
Includes:
6 Months Complimentary Xm Service
Premium Carpet Mat Set: $209
Carpet Floor Mats
Rear Cargo Mat
Ball Mount: $65
Cargo Cross Bars: $185
Vehicle Shield Package: $379
Lusterizing Sealant
Sealant Cleaner
Fabric Guard
Rental Car Assistance
I went to the finance guy and he started at 3.9. Then we started talking about an extended warranty. He originally quoted me a monthly payment, but it seemed to low. I told him i wanted everything broken down. It turned out that he tried to extend the loan to 66 months and the extended warranty was 2200. I told him that i've seen it on the internet for 1200. He said he could give me the costco price for the warranty and he'd bring down the APR to 3.75. Their costco price was 1600.