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What options does it have? If you know the options, residual value, money factor, and fees you can figure exactly how the lease payment is calculated and whether you are getting in for invoice or not.
vehicle price with options cost 31200
less 1000 rebate
plus tax, title, registration, plates and other misc crap cost 2580
total out the door was 32780
they gave me the price i requested, didnt even have to negotiate. only problem was that their apr was too high at 5.9% so i bought the car cash. what do u guys think? did i get a fair price?
Good luck
Bottom line is I am real happy with my vehicle as i am sure you are!
out of curiousity what kind of mpg are u gettng with the v6?
For a new engine i am getting 15-17 arround town and 17-21 on the hyway.
I have a heavy boat, so i needed the v8 for that.
Ross
PS Congrats on a cool vehicle, I love the sport interior, and the xreas suspension works real well too, The hood scoop really looks great, wish it was real!!
And where did you buy this car?
Thanks!
hope this helps.
Boxtype
I'm thinking about buying the Sport Edition and getting the Leather upgrade, but are the seats the leather seats you find in the Limited or are they just leather covers over the fabric seats. Also, does anyone know if you can put the Navigation into the Sport, like the one that is available from Oemvalue.com? Can you get the 5 spoke alloys for the Sport, that you can get on the SR5 and Limited? Can you get the regular hood on the Sport Edition, not the scooped hood? I know I should just buy a Limited, but if I can save a few thousand by buying the Sport and upgrading a few things, I think it would be worth it. Thanks in advance.
Anyone have any idea how much it costs on average in California to have the clutch replaced?
Turns out this may be more of a headache than it is worth.
Oh and a Major Alignment.
I need to know how to Reset the Check Engine light since I just replaced the O2 sensor.
(BTW I am speaking of the more commonly replaced one before the CAT)
I Had a Diagnostic run on it a few days ago and the Only Codes that Showed were #'s 24 and 25. (O2 sensor and Injectors) I ran a Highly concentrated injector cleaner (at only a quarter tank of gas) That cleared that error code right up.
So Now I replaced the O2 Sensor and it is running so much more smoothly! The Original from the factory was still in there. (i dont know how often they should be changed.) But the new Bosch one seems to be a better design. (If any of you need to replace this, I suggest the Universal one W/O the connector, it is extremely easy to connect with the included kit, only took a half hour, and costs 1/2 what the OEM does.)
Well, it seems maybe this belongs in another thread, but I got carried away. Please lemme know if you have any Ideas
Did some research and went shopping, basically getting SR5 (V6) with these options:
Cargo system
Additional power outlet
Roof rails + Crossbars
Moon Roof
Power lumbar drivers seat
Restraint system (side airbags)
Leather Seats
Leather wrap steering wheel
17" Alloy wheels
The only option I wanted was leather seats + moon roof dealer is adding leather seats.
Invoice is $28,442
Dealer is quoting $28,900 w/$1000 rebate total price $27,900
Seems like a great deal, I am being taxed on $28,900 is this correct? Or should I be taxed on rebate price? Thanks. I agreed to pay 27,900 for just leather + moon roof. So I am getting some additional features. Thanks for any tips or advice.
Where you buying your Toyota at? I'm in the market for a 05' Sport, but I don't want those tires and rims that it comes with. I want the 5 spoke alloys and tires you can get with the Limited and SR5, I also want to get the leather seats. What exactly is the Power lumbar drivers seat option?
Later,
Jason
Toyota 4Runner: Problems and Solutions
I am getting this Toyota at heyward allen toyota in athens, ga. The power drivers lumbar seat is available in southeast only, its just electric lumbar (back) support instead of manual. I am starting to feel better about the deal. The dealership has a company called Classic Soft Trim (classicsofttrim.com) pick the car up and they haul it to Atlanta, there they put the leather on, this is matched to Toyota's specs. The leather seats are warrantied just like toyota for 3 years. I have not paid for the vehicle yet, If I don't like the leather, then no deal. I am starting to feel better about the deal, especially knowing it has side airbags and this seems to be a rare find. I ran the numbers again, KBB invoice is $28,505, edmunds.com TMV is $29,030. The deal is $28,900 with $1000 rebate $27,900 before tax, tag, title fees. (the deal price includes a handling fee or BS of $200) So the price was actually $28,700+200- $1000. I think I could have done slightly better on the deal, say $28,300-$28,500 and pushed for NO admin fee + rebate. But this car had some things I had not anticipated (side airbags) I think it may be worth the safety over dollars in the long run. I hope someone will post if I did okay on this deal. Hope this helps.
Im lookig for a stock limited 4x2 with the standard available options (not Sport with leather as many on this post seem to be in the market for). Think i may do this than haggle with my local dealership.
It sounds as though you are getting a fairly good deal but I noticed something in your post that is incorrect.
The $1000 rebate on this SUV only applies after you take the purchase price plus all applicable taxes. So you are going to get taxed on $28,900 vice $27,900, not that big of a deal but thought you should know.
If the salesman is telling you something different then he/she is full of it, double check with the sales manager or the finance guys...they will tell you.
Good luck with your purchase!!!
2005 SR5
17" alloy wheels
DD cargo system w/ net
Roof rack & cross bars
Leather steering wheel/knob
spoiler
DT Running lights
Moon Roof
Cargo net
mirror upgrade
security system upgrade
Floor and cargo mats
Leather upgrade
power lumbar seat pass anger and driver
Stainless Steel door enhancements
Window tinting
29,074 + TTL (6%)
Thanks in advance
Sorry I didn't get back to you right away so my comments now may not help since it looks like you had to do something last night with this vehicle.
But for what's it worth, yes you would get taxed on the $28,900 plus if there are any dealer fees, you would add all of that together and that would be the amount you would get taxed. After they figure the bottom line price for this truck they would then take the $1K off.
As far as walking away from this deal if after seeing the seats and you don't like them....if you had it in writing then it is no problem!!!!
Regardless of what they say to you, at anytime you can walk away! Unless you have physically taken ownership of this truck you can walk! Even after you have signed the papers...now, legally they could do something to force you to accept this truck after you have signed the papers but trust me, this would be a enormous headache for the dealership and they would rather just let you go then fight. What they are banking on though as you being the consumer not having the #@$#$% to stand up to them and not take their crap.
Bottom line is this, you can walk away from any deal at anytime if you don't feel good about the deal as long as you have not physically taken delivery of this truck.
Once they send off the paperwork to the state DMV etc...at that time your stuck and your options are gone.
I just bought a vehicle my self and the finance guy told me it takes at least 3 to 4 days for the paperwork to close and leave the dealership on its way to the DMV.
Remember, you are the consumer, you are always correct and the car buying experience should be a good one considering the investment you are making.
If you can't get that from the current dealership you are working for them move on to the next one if possible. If you need to go a little further out than what's in your immediate area then so be it...you may end up with a hell of a deal and a great buying experience.
As I mentioned before this all may be mute if you have already bought this truck anyway! But Rock On!
Enough Said...
MSRP $32,389
INVOICE $28,610
The agreed price was $28,700 w/$1000 rebate. And yes I was charged taxes on the $28,700 price plus $199 admin fee (argued some on saturday about this, but not going to piss off everyone or lose deal for $200) I accepted this fee knowing that when you close on a home or loan it has enormous fees, so $199 was not too bad. So basically the purchase price was $27,700 + $199. I am pleased, I feel the original price was very close to invoice and $1000 rebate. So the price drops below invoice. I feel I made a great deal and yes I know the dealer made money, but I am very pleased with my purchase. I would recommend the dealer to my friends. This is a deal where everyone wins. Thanks for all the help from this website!!! I really feel that I purchased a "limited" 4runner for a fraction of the cost. My wife and I are very pleased with the quality of the vehicle.
Some tips I would recommend for buying any car:
Research price, know the cost of the vehicle (invoice) I was able to name optional equipment at invoice prices to my dealer throughout the entire deal. Be assertive and firm but polite.
I made it very clear early in the process, that I wanted a "price" I did not want to discuss financing or any type of monthly payments. And NO I do not have a trade-in. (we plan to sell old vehicle ourselves) I made it clear to the dealer that if you give me a price and we agree on a deal, I will show you the money. I recommend financing or getting pre-approved for a loan before going to the dealer. Know what you can afford, you will get better rates and the dealer cannot play the "how much per month do you want to pay game?" (not implying this dealer would do this, but most do.) Again, be assertive and firm.
I was able to inspect the vehicle this evening and had my check in hand, the deal went smooth since the vehicle checked out better than anticipated. There were no hidden fees at the closing, all the prices were the same. I was happy with the dealership. It was a pretty good experience and the truck looks great!!!
Hope this helps everyone, wanted to let everyone know that I found a 8 CD changer (panasonic at crutchfield) for $180 that is compatible with the factory sterero in the 4runner. If it fits in the glove box console, I will probably purchase it and let you know how it works. (much cheaper than factory option...) Thanks again to all and good luck with your next purchase.
The options I got were:
GY - Side/Curtain Airbags (didn't want)
NH - XREAS
NV - JBL AM/FM/CD with Navigation
RF - Rear Spoiler (didn't want)
RL - Daytime Running Lights (didn't want)
SR - Sunroof
DG - Door Edge Guards
CF - Floor Mats
I will get whatever rebate is in effect upon delivery but since I don't know what it is now my numbers below assume no rebate.
Edmunds TMV was $39,375. Carsdirect target price was $40,140. One of the Carmax New Car locations (usually very good prices) had a car with the same options (wrong color) and was selling it for $39,388.
I agreed to purchase for $39995 + TTL. Definately could do better... try not to have to order one!
Thanks
Sounds like a a great deal, actually below dealer cost. Where did you find this great deal (dealer, city & state)?
GBL
The dealership is Central Florida Toyota, Orlando, FL...
I live in Tampa, FL about 100 miles away from this dealership...I e-mailed about 15 different dealerships within a 100 mile radius, including DirectCars. The final price that I paid was about $1,500 cheaper than the next closest competitor. Their initial quote was about $750 cheaper than any other dealer so it was a done deal...I was just waiting for my pre-financing to come through when they called me on the 31'st and told me they would sell the car cheaper if I picked it up that night. By the time I got there it was about 10:30pm and the actual Runner I wanted had not been delivered yet (wanted a V6), however, they had 2 others to choose from a stripped down V6 4x4 and a V8 4x4. I chose the V8 and left at about 1:30am...well worth the drive and time.
In my opinion, this dealership had the best price right from the start...I would assume that they are a volume dealer without the loss of customer service. I must say this was my best car buying experience EVER!
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Base $25,950
Options
AW - 17" Alloy Wheels w/265/65R17 Tires $80.00
EC - Auto Dimming Rear View Mirror w/Compass $120.00
CM - Double Decker Cargo System w/ Cargo Net $100.00
SR - Power Tilt/Slide Moonroof w/Sunshade $720.00
DR - Black Roof Rack & Cross Bars $176.00
RF - Rear Spoiler w/Center High Mounted Stop Lamp $160.00
NE - Leather Wheel & Shift w/ Audio & Cruise $176.00
CF - Carpet Floor Mats/Cargo $114.00
Options Total $1,646.00
Destination Charge $565
Calculated Invoice: $28,579
They are adding the following to the invoice price:
TDA (Advertising Fee) $412.00
Gasoline $6.00
Dealer Holdback $601.00
Whsl. Financial Reserve $300.00
So they say this is their cost: $29,489
Best offer I have gotten:
$200 over "thier invoice" for a purchase price of $29,689
Less My Customer Rebate of $1,000
Total Price: $28,689 (plus sales tax)
I know they have some room to move. Don't they get the dealer holdback and financial reserve back? That's $900 right there. How about the advertising fee, don't they get some of that back too?
I offered $500 over true invoice, so $29,000 for a purchase price of $28,000 with my rebate. Both don't want to budge!! You think I can get a better deal than they are offering?
BTW..No Trade-In and I am paying cash.
Thanks for the advice!!
"Less My Customer Rebate of $1,000
Total Price: $28,689 (plus sales tax) "
This is not how it works..its tax then less rebate
2005 SR5 RWD
V6
17" alloy wheels
Roof rack & cross bars
Leather steering wheel/knob
Moon Roof
Floor mats
Window tinting
Actual Invoice: $28,161
Dealer Invoice: $29,480
MSRP: $32,736
I think I got a decent deal. I am happy with it. Great truck by the way!
I'm not sure what color they will give me yet and I still need to pay tax and pick up the vehicle.
1) What's a fair price that I should expect to get for this car?
2) Should I sell to a dealer, put an newspaper ad, or ebay?
Thanks.
Location: Los Angeles, CA
2005 Toyota 4Runner 4x2 SR5 V6
Body Style: SUV
Engine: 4.0 liter, 6 cylinder, 5-Speed auto
Driveline: FWD
Mileage: 0
Color: Black or Silver
Major Options: None
Condition: Brand New
What are your thoughts, did I pay too much? If it matters, I live in WA state.
Your opinions are much appreciated. Also, if you could tell me what mechanical things I should start to look out for and what things will need to be done to the vehicle in the coming miles I'd appreciate it.
Thanks...
E.
I'm so glad you told me who you dealt with.
If it is not a huge imposition, would you be able to email me the name of the person at Sandy Springs? It might save me time haggling.
We might buy tomorrow if the deal is right.
Thanks
jlm3131@yahoo.com
My main question is: was this truly a factory option or was it aftermarket? I think the best way to know the difference is on aftermarket you will still have manual seats and the controls for the heated seats won't be on the center console like they are on the Limited. I assume if it was a factory option everything would be just like the Limited. They couldn't tell us where the heat controls would be - likely just an on-off switch on the side of the chair they said. That didn't really impress me, as the limited offers 5 levels of heat control.
We negotiated with Stevinson Toyota in Denver yesterday buy didn't take any deal they offered. They told us their invice price for the Sport (V8 4x4) we wanted was $33,209. It was fairly loaded:
Sunroof
JBL 6-disc
cargo double decker
auto climate control
etc., don't remember everything in the package just the parts of interest.
we want them to add:
alarm
heated leather seats
Also, I noted their invoice included the "dealer holdback" line item as others have mentioned. It was $655. I asked if that was being double counted and of course they said no. I'm off to read the dealer holdback forum to see if anyone has figured this out for Toyota yet.
Anyway, we may just have to go with a Limited, but I'd prefer the Sport...any input on (especially on the leather issue) would be much appreciated!!