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At least Toyota firmly is standing behind their products.
The accelerator linkage problem can be traced to a number of bad decisions Toyota made; one being listening to their cost accountants who wanted to cut cost and out source the components to the cheapest bidder.
Nissan is not addressing their quality issues and will be in front of congress in the near future after enough people die from faulty CVT's.
Read the NTSB reports about the crazy accelerations of the CVT and throttle motor failures.
I don't buy into conspiracies but it sure looks suspicious here.
For the 627,895th times this thread is called "Nissan Murano Prices Paid and Buying Experience" for a reason. Can we just keep the posting to this topic? I am sure there are boards that deal with reliability and you will be welcome there. If my Murano self-destructs I am sure I will be very upset but I won't come here to complain to everyone. We got it. Some Muranos have CVT issues. Some Lexuses are getting recalled left and right. Now, what I want to know HERE is where are the Murano deals???
FYI, I was actually making a dual reply to the CVT thread & Customer Satisfaction thread that led back here. It might occurr that some other inquiring minds (i.e. smart shoppers) check various threads to make their decision.
"627,895th"! Gotta lotta time on your hands?
To be fair and balanced, you should send the same message to replys #2803 & #2804.
OAO.
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2007 Nissan Murano (leased vehicle currently under warranty that dealer /Mossy Nissan refuses to repair. Visors are $500 for parts alone not including installation) safety hazard sun visors flop down and completely block vision. Happens constantly or whenever vehicle hits a slight bump on the road. Driver's side is most effected however sometimes (at least once a day) both visors flop down and block visibility completely. Both my wife and I are tall. She's 5'8" and I'm 6'2". NISSAN WAKE UP! ... THIS IS A SERIOUS SAFETY HAZARD! IT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BE LIFE-THREATENING.
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You MAY want to look at a three year lease and see what happens. Two main steps are as follows ;1. negotiating a price on the car to be leased and 2. maximizing the residual value based on available data. Both are negotiable and will greatly affect your monthly payment. A higher residual value and obviously a lower negotiated price will lower your monthly payments.
As far as financing, I'd try and get it through a bank. If the only place you can get financing is from a car dealer -- you're probably in the wrong lot or looking at a car you may not really want to afford. ( I know its a rough comment - just be careful)
In general folks will talk about Nissan's MF ( money factor) and such. I wouldn't pay much attention to any terms dictated by a car manufacturer for any reason - its all negotiable as long as you stick to the main two points I mentioned. Unless a car company buys and leases cars - they make no money. It's just that simple.
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I still think its a very expensive proposition at 575 a month for 5 years and the down payment. So I would amend my post to consider leasing in a buy vs lease scenario.
You would take the total cost of the lease option including any benefits such as free maintenance and compare to the buy. With the buy scenario you would add in the residual value as part of the deal, which of course you don't have with the lease.
My vehicle is almost identical to the buyer here, and came in under 30K. So for 6K more over 5 years ( or about 20% higher) it still seems like a pretty high interest rate to me. Nissan Muranos can be purchased for up to 6K below MSRP interestingly.
As far as the CVT question -- differing opinions. Mine is that its an excellent transmission with a 10 year warranty - but that getting transfer case problems included in the warranty has been a problem - so getting an AWD is a risk. FWD makes more sense for this particular vehicle. My opinion only.
back to the buyers negotiation - I am curious as to what price the financing option was based off of? I think that fact is missing. I just see a total.
In recent months, the second gen. is starting to reveal some of the same defects and others.
Keep in mind, the CVT is not a typical transmission. Many of the vehicle's major functions are mechanically & electronically dependant/linked to the CVT.
If the CVT experiences a problem it is literally like breaking a link in a chain. It cascades into other areas causing many other problems.
Traditional transmissions operate mostly as an independant system or module. If it breaks it is usually limited to the transmission.
This is an important point to consider as you stated.
After looking at all the feedback with the CVT it has pushed me into not buying the car and looking elsewhere. It sounds like that could create a huge problem which I don't need. Thanks again for your advice.
I think you made a smart decision.
Best of luck in your hunting.
Thanks,
don
$41,670 with shipping
- $3,964 Dealer Discount
- $ 750 rebate
- $ 500 holiday rebate
$36,456
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Documentation Fee: 132.50
State Taxes: 1,420.30
License Fee 65.00
$38,073
$4800 net trade in allow + $1890 cash 39 mo 12K mi mo lease pay $456.
Car sticker $37,150 cash rebate $1250 buy out $18203.
How I should have lowered from sticker and how is the $18,203 buy out important to negotiating my lease down the road? How do they get buyout?
The only thing that takes time to get used to is that when you put it in to gear,it takes about 2 seconds to engage.other than that it is amazingly smooth and problem free for me.
I even owned a 2003 AWD murano back in the day with no problems either.The only problem I have ever had with ANY of them is a broken cupholder door in my 2009 which was replaced under warrantee.I can afford pretty much ANY car I choose at any price,but the Murano is still my choice of anything out there.
Murano SV FWD $31,910 USD
Murano SL FWD $35,450 USD
Murano LE FWD $37,540 USD
Murano S AWD $30,100 USD
Murano SV AWD $33,510 USD
Murano SL AWD $37,050 USD
Murano LE AWD $39,140 USD
MSPR 30460
360 Package 1190
Premium Package 1000
Splash Guards 125
Leather Package 1600
Detination 800
Sticker 35175
Final Price
Vehicle 31250
Rebate 500
Total 30750
I took 0.9% Nissan financing over the an additional $1500 in rebates.
It took longer to fill out the credit app than it did getting the price and reviewing the finance options.
If I wanted to go to a very well equipped SL or LE, they were offering between $500-1000 more off the price.
We got an offer for 2010 Murano LE AWD with Nav & Mats for $35,000 + Tax/lic (includes Destination). We want to make a fair deal for both the dealer and ourselves. Are they able to go down to $33-34?
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After negotiaton, the offer for Nissan 2011 SL FWD is 33300 + tag + tax + dealer fee.
The packaing includes:
360 Package
Premium Package
Splash Guards
Leather Package
Also they will take care of my last lease payment + over milage charge ( around 1000$ value). So actul value of offer for is 32300. Nissan is offering 0% APR now.
I am not sure if this is the best deal, but I just like to know if this is a pretty fair deal here. I am appreicated if anyone can give some comments about this deal? thanks.
Can you help me with the Money Factor and Residual for March on either the Murano SL or LE. 36 or 39m and 15K miles. I am in the NYC area
Thanks again. Your posts are extremley helpfull.
MSRP: 41,670
Price Paid: 35,495
Trade in: 10,500
Total: 24,995 + TTL
After agreeing to that deal, when I got to the dealer, Nissan finance had gone to 0% 60 months in lieu of the $750 cash included above. I took that, added a $100 bumper cover and paid $28k OTD w/ 0% for 60 months ($466/mo).
The dealer was Wayzata Nissan in Minnesota
MSRP: $38,650
Paid: $35,500 + TTL
extras: cargo cover thrown in
no trade in
forwent the $1000 rebate for the 1.9% finance option (unfortunately missed the 0% option by just days)
Dealer in OK.
Is this a good price?
Miles 19k
Please advise Thanks.
Paid : $24,000.00 Cash
Traded in 2000 Isuzu Rodeo S 4x4, Kelly BB value $3000.00.
Suntrup Nissan, Saint Louis, MO
Did you get any more options on it ?
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Love my new car.
You are buying a ticking time bomb; regardless of what year it is.
Run away! :lemon:
The car is crap! Run away! :lemon:
A class action law suite needs to be initiated!
I cannot believe that folks continue to buy a car model that is riddled with such problems.
Nissan is the most pathetic auto manufacturer ever.
What ever you do: DON'T BUY! DONT' BUY! DON'T BUY!
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