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Toyota Sienna 2004+
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Actually want a Highlander but its too small, wish they would make a bigger version.
The report that the Sienna handled mushy and the Ody handled sports car like attracted me to the Ody. How mushy is the Sienna's handling?
Looked on line and like the XLE with Pkg 6. Maybe green with beige interior.
They're both minivans that weigh over 2 tons and are box-like, no matter how much the designers attempt to disguise this fact. There is no way either vehicle could handle as well as a car (much less a sports car). Both vehicles have plenty of pickup (surprisingly so, and especially if you've driven a previous generation minivan), but I'm not a comfortable pushing it with wife and newborn (or a vehicle that just doesn't handle like a car). I figured that if I can't have a vehicle that handles well, I'll at least have one that offers a relatively quiet and sophisticated ride.
I also chose the Sienna because I preferred the interior and some of the features (for example, I prefer the telescoping steering wheel over the adjustable pedals; wait did I mention the HIDs on the Limited?). To be honest, I was *this* close to pulling the trigger on the Odyssey. I would have chosen the touring model, so I had a bit of an issue with the PAX system, but it wasn't enough to be a deal-breaker. Good luck and let us know what decision you make. I really don't think you'll lose w/ either choice. Best, LH
That said, IMHO, there are definite differences between the Odyssey and the Sienna in both the ride and handling.
if it's replaced with "original Toyota" equipment why would it hurt the van's structural integrety? if so it would have to be the workmanship go to a reputable body shop or directly to Toyota Service.
Likely if you just had cosmetic damage, all that was replaced was the bumper cover, which provides no structural strength to anything. You are likely worrying for no reason.
Has any other 2004 owner in this forum actually had a Toyota dealer diagnose and fix the acceleration lag? If so, please describe your transaction.
I got a terrific deal on a 97 ES300 driver's seat including the position memory.
Obviously the following suggestions would affect the vehicle warranty and crash liabilities, but I'd pursue these rather than loose $$ by eating the instant depreciation of a new car:
1) Have a custom seat rail made by a local metal fabricator that would change or offset the seat rail rearwards by an inch or more.
2) Have an auto uphostolry shop rebuild the seat with an extended front bolster.
Things like seats being changed are rare.
Sorry, no such luck.
I don't know how feasible it would be to swap out the seat, but the 2005 Avalon Limited has a power bolster on the seat to add 2 more inches of thigh support.
Good luck,
Al
I am just wondering what you think of the short seats (lack of thigh support), and if that effects your back in a negative way. I am so bummed that both the Odyessy and Sienna vans do not do well for my back, I just can't bring myself to buy another American vehicle (though the Caravans are horrible seats too). It has now come down to either just dealing with uncomfy seats and buying a van, purchasing a Toyota or Honda sedan or a smaller SUV. My family thinks I would be REALLY CRAZY to buy another car if its that bad for my back, I do agree but.... :mad: :confuse:
I just read someone that the new Avalon has adjustable thigh supports so why not go to a dealer and buy a set?
http://www.paspeedo.com/calculator.htm
In the event 16" wheel have the same bolt pattern as your OEM 17" wheels (Toyota service should be able to verify this info), there shouldn't be a problem. However, your 16" Nokia's will be 1/2 wider, 1" thicker, 1.3" taller in diameter than the stock 17" tires, and when your speedometer reads 65 mph, your actual speed will be 68 mph (per the above website). Hope this helps!
- a quiet and smooth ride;
- a dimming exterior mirror;
- side air bags (not just head curtain bags);
- an air and odor filter;
- 115 volt outlets;
- HID headlights;
- front proximity sensors;
- a power tail gate;
- sun visors which extend;
- dramatically better gas mileage (19/26 for the Sienna vs 14/19 for the SUV);
- a more flexible and larger interior;
- a sun roof (it was optional on the Mountaineer);
- a panoramic view to the front (the SUV roof was too low for me);
- Laser cruise control (useless to me); and,
- stability control (not available when I bought my Mountaineer).
I hope that the high fuel prices prompt other SUV owners to consider the Sienna.
I know this has been asked before, but I was wondering if anyone has new info on when the '06 Sienna is coming out. Trying to decide between the Odyssey and the Sienna, and the info on when the '06 is coming out will help me decide.
thank you.
And it's not just the Sienna which offer all those stuff, but any (well, most) other minivan would be a good alternative for an SUV, with superior mileage and interior volume and flexibility. Chrysler T&C or Dodge Grand Caravan would offer most of your options mentioned, but for a much cheaper price (except for the HID lights; Laser cruise - which is worthless in YOUR opinion; front sensors - which is worthless IMO; Stability control; and I think they deleted recently the sun-roof), but you get the stow-n-go seats, and a better view and visibility than Sienna, which have a much higher belt-line. But I do agree that if you have the money to spend, Sienna would be the better choice.
Good luck!
I think this put the Sienna above the Odyssey, since you will be able to get all the features available without having to get run-flats like you do on the Odyssey. I won't buy the run-flat models of either brand.
I'm hoping the Sienna will be available in late August. We'll see.